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08 Aug 22:01
zonknz
Broadly supportive of this - As long as Western or Rangers come through the playoffs!

Guessing the playoffs games as ordered in that article are placeholders for now? Given there are 3-4 games left in the Cap Prem & Fed League. Still a chance for Western to grab an automatic spot. 🤞
09 Aug 01:01
YoungHeartHM
zonknz
Broadly supportive of this - As long as Western or Rangers come through the playoffs!

Guessing the playoffs games as ordered in that article are placeholders for now? Given there are 3-4 games left in the Cap Prem & Fed League. Still a chance for Western to grab an automatic spot. 🤞
They show as indicative, based on table as they stood yesterday. 
09 Aug 03:44
zonknz
YoungHeartHM
zonknz
Broadly supportive of this - As long as Western or Rangers come through the playoffs!

Guessing the playoffs games as ordered in that article are placeholders for now? Given there are 3-4 games left in the Cap Prem & Fed League. Still a chance for Western to grab an automatic spot. 🤞
They show as indicative, based on table as they stood yesterday. 

Thought about as much. Didn't see the word indicative, but lack of sleep probably caught me out.

Still happy about this development nevertheless.


12 Aug 01:12
This is all great to hear! Hopefully, this will lead to both CL1 and 2 getting more than 10 teams long-term (preferably 12 min) and have slightly longer seasons. Also great to hear that there will be automatic promotion/relegation and not a play-off with the last-place team. Can't wait to see where this leads
12 Aug 01:25
Really sceptical about this and whether there are 10 teams keen/able to participate longer term. 

Also really surprised most capital football clubs were supportive. More cost, and with olympic/miramar excluded from CL2, likely to get a worse competition.

and now we are going to get Oly and Mar second teams pumping Douglas Villa 20-0 in the new Capital premier league. 
12 Aug 03:01
2ndBest
Really sceptical about this and whether there are 10 teams keen/able to participate longer term. 

Also really surprised most capital football clubs were supportive. More cost, and with olympic/miramar excluded from CL2, likely to get a worse competition.

and now we are going to get Oly and Mar second teams pumping Douglas Villa 20-0 in the new Capital premier league. 
I mean if so many clubs were for it then maybe it's more economically viable than we think.

As for the reserve teams going down, I do see your point. Literally half the Capital Premier League are reserve teams, so anyone coming up is gonna struggle. Then again if you want to look at it optimistically you improve best against strong competition.
12 Aug 22:12
Noah4thenix
2ndBest
Really sceptical about this and whether there are 10 teams keen/able to participate longer term. 

Also really surprised most capital football clubs were supportive. More cost, and with olympic/miramar excluded from CL2, likely to get a worse competition.

and now we are going to get Oly and Mar second teams pumping Douglas Villa 20-0 in the new Capital premier league. 
I mean if so many clubs were for it then maybe it's more economically viable than we think.

As for the reserve teams going down, I do see your point. Literally half the Capital Premier League are reserve teams, so anyone coming up is gonna struggle. Then again if you want to look at it optimistically you improve best against strong competition.

Didn't I read a line about CF considering adding a mirrored Reserves league for Central League 1 (and maybe 2) to avoid the above issue - I did trawl through three different presentations, each one revealing slightly more detail - so I might have just imagined it.
12 Aug 23:30 · edited 12 Aug 23:32 · History
The belief is that some reserve team players for central league clubs will shift, looking for first team football in CL2. (I've heard a CL Coach say that some of his reserves are actively in that process for next year).
13 Aug 00:50
There is no doubt in my mind that this will happen.  But of more concern to me is when the Wellington Clubs realise that all of a sudden, their long trip of the year, from Wellington to Upper Hutt, now becomes a trip to New Plymouth, a couple to Palmy and one to Hawkes Bay.  There will be expense involved.
zonknz
The belief is that some reserve team players for central league clubs will shift, looking for first team football in CL2. (I've heard a CL Coach say that some of his reserves are actively in that process for next year).
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13 Aug 02:24
ol'sole
There is no doubt in my mind that this will happen.  But of more concern to me is when the Wellington Clubs realise that all of a sudden, their long trip of the year, from Wellington to Upper Hutt, now becomes a trip to New Plymouth, a couple to Palmy and one to Hawkes Bay.  There will be expense involved.
zonknz
The belief is that some reserve team players for central league clubs will shift, looking for first team football in CL2. (I've heard a CL Coach say that some of his reserves are actively in that process for next year).


There is still a chance albeit slight that Gisborne may win their way in so this when added to other away trips could put a large financial strain on some of the Wellington Clubs. 
13 Aug 07:48
whatever
ol'sole
There is no doubt in my mind that this will happen.  But of more concern to me is when the Wellington Clubs realise that all of a sudden, their long trip of the year, from Wellington to Upper Hutt, now becomes a trip to New Plymouth, a couple to Palmy and one to Hawkes Bay.  There will be expense involved.
zonknz
The belief is that some reserve team players for central league clubs will shift, looking for first team football in CL2. (I've heard a CL Coach say that some of his reserves are actively in that process for next year).


There is still a chance albeit slight that Gisborne may win their way in so this when added to other away trips could put a large financial strain on some of the Wellington Clubs. 
Click on the "More information on the background, purpose and structure" button, it reveals (Page 17/19)

"... excludes $8,000 per trip to Gisborne which Central will cover ..."

Personally I think that level of travel expenditure associated with a full league season at this tier of football is not a good investment.  







03 Sep 05:50
Any news on the playoff lineups?
04 Sep 01:08
Tyler
Any news on the playoff lineups?
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One more match to be played this weekend in Fed League which will determine the final placings and who plays who in the playoffs.
11 Sep 23:05
So looks like Wellington Marist have decided not to participate. 
12 Sep 01:45
Potentially plenty of travel in that league huh? Maybe Marist are making a wise choice. 

I bet all Wellington teams are hoping Te Kotahitanga can pull one over Gisborne
12 Sep 06:00
Were Marist in the mix?

Founder

12 Sep 06:11 · edited 12 Sep 07:11 · History
Feverish
Were Marist in the mix?
You think they would have had an option since they finished 3rd (behind Wests who aren't taking part and Douglas Villa who are) and above Vic Uni by 8 points.
I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
12 Sep 06:57 · edited 12 Sep 07:06 · History
Yakcall
Feverish
Were Marist in the mix?
You think they would have had an option since they finished 3rd (behind Wests who are taking part and Douglas Villa who are) and above Vic Uni by 8 points.

Ok so it goes down to cap1. Wests can’t be taking part in cl2 though?

Founder

12 Sep 07:00 · edited 12 Sep 07:04 · History
I believe clubs had to let Capital Football know at the beginning of the season or at least earlier in the year if they wanted to not be apart of CL2 and the potential play offs (if they were to hypothetically at that point make it). Reserve teams are ineligible for CL2.
Marist opted out of this earlier in the year which means Douglas Villa take the first Cap 1 spot and Vic Uni the second.
12 Sep 07:09 · edited 12 Sep 07:10 · History
Tyler
Potentially plenty of travel in that league huh? Maybe Marist are making a wise choice. 

I bet all Wellington teams are hoping Te Kotahitanga can pull one over Gisborne

Yes potentially a lot of travel but my guess is that over the next few years it will end up like Central League 1, with there only being 1 or 2 teams from outside the Wellington region, which, kinda defeats the whole point of the league being created in the first place? 

You would hope that Te Kotahitanga can beat Gisborne. A lot more "neutral" TK fans for that game, surely! 
12 Sep 08:33
2ndBest

How come some teams have actual names in front of them? Like Peggy Gordons' ___ or Shani's ___? Something to do with sponsorships I'm assuming?
12 Sep 08:37

Yeah, both local sponsors 
I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
12 Sep 21:40 · edited 12 Sep 21:41 · History
Yep, bang on about sponsorship.

Us regional folk need all the funding we can get to get these teams on the park! The good thing for Taranaki based sides will be that they can go through both the NZCT & the Toi Foundation for grants which should see them through in terms of costs for travel as well as small to significant infrastructure upgrades - See FC Western who have upgraded their lighting!

FC Western with a team of significant sponsors already, and Bertie (Peggy Gordons former owner) is still pumping a decent chunk of change into Rangers as far as I'm aware. 
12 Sep 23:12 · edited 12 Sep 23:13 · History
Lived in New Plymouth in 1996. I still remember Peggy Gordons (a very popular bar back then) as being a big football shrine.

13 Sep 01:34
coochiee
Lived in New Plymouth in 1996. I still remember Peggy Gordons (a very popular bar back then) as being a big football shrine.


Still is. 😎
Although as with all hospitality around the country at the moment it's going through a bit of a quiet patch. 

Surprised they're still sponsoring NP Rangers though, given Bertie sold the business a few years back.
13 Sep 01:52
fevertree
Tyler
Potentially plenty of travel in that league huh? Maybe Marist are making a wise choice. 

I bet all Wellington teams are hoping Te Kotahitanga can pull one over Gisborne

Yes potentially a lot of travel but my guess is that over the next few years it will end up like Central League 1, with there only being 1 or 2 teams from outside the Wellington region, which, kinda defeats the whole point of the league being created in the first place? 

You would hope that Te Kotahitanga can beat Gisborne. A lot more "neutral" TK fans for that game, surely! 

I'm not so sure. Without CapFootball reserves sides, some of the clubs are quite far down the leagues here in Wellington. 
13 Sep 07:30
Speaking of which, Cap Premier will be nearly entirely CL reserve teams unless they set up a CL Reserves League

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13 Sep 21:07
Anyone here gonna be watching today?
13 Sep 22:21
Come on Rangers!

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14 Sep 02:52
Half time here.

Seatoun 2 New Plymouth 1
Te Kotahitanga 1, Gisborne 0
Taradale 2 VIC Uni 0
Douglas Villa 0 Havelock 0.
14 Sep 03:59
Full time Taradale 4 VIC Uni 1
Seatoun 2 NP 1
Te Kotahitanga 1 Gizzy 0

Douglas Villa and Havelock in to extra time
14 Sep 04:00
Douglas Villa score 2 in the first half of the xtra time! 4-2 up
14 Sep 04:20
Tyler
Full time Taradale 4 VIC Uni 1
Seatoun 2 NP 1
Te Kotahitanga 1 Gizzy 0

Douglas Villa and Havelock in to extra time

Makes it an easy choice for me to now throw my hat in with FC Western for next season! 
14 Sep 04:57 · edited 14 Sep 05:33 · History
So Central 2 will look like this next season

Douglas Villa
FC Western
Lower Hutt City
Palmerston North Marist
Palmerston North United
Seatoun
Stop Out
Taradale
Tawa
Te Kotahitangi

Edited as comment about BNU was wrong

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14 Sep 05:03
By my calculations Cap Prem will be:

Miramar ressies
Olympic ressies
Karori ressies
Marist
Wests ressies
Wainui
Petone ressies
Phoenix 3rd team 
IBU ressies
VIC uni. 
04 Mar 20:55
FC Western at home in round 1 to Taradale.

Haven't been to Lynmouth Park so might do a roadie on the 29th.
YoungHeartHM
Tyler
Full time Taradale 4 VIC Uni 1
Seatoun 2 NP 1
Te Kotahitanga 1 Gizzy 0

Douglas Villa and Havelock in to extra time

Makes it an easy choice for me to now throw my hat in with FC Western for next season! 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.