Imray bought a new iPad when he signed for Mar. Coincidence? :)
Central League 2013
Some Kids (even adults) can't afford to pay subs to play football. Meanwhile other players are being paid $100+ per game to play average football and place mid-lower table in the central league.
Why do they get their 'expenses' covered?
Some players at Rapa are paid up to 25k. What kind of expenses add up to that sort of figure? Not sure about other clubs but guys like Luis Corales, Andrew Abba, Fifi, Rider, Fa'arodo among others don't play for free. One thing is for sure, the more successful clubs are spending more and yeah, that's just the way it is.
Some Kids (even adults) can't afford to pay subs to play football. Meanwhile other players are being paid $100+ per game to play average football and place mid-lower table in the central league.
Why do they get their 'expenses' covered?
Sponsors and/or supporters money may be.
"Miramar Rangers have yet to be beaten in Central League play this season and lie second on the points table behind the only other unbeaten side, Wellington Olympic."
This from the article. I guess the headline is alluding to Miramar being one of the top sides. More interesting is the photo of Masterton AFC's home ground. Now that does look rural. I reckon the centre circle was roped off with a couple of sheep grazing in it.
I like the comment about the headline and you are correct in stating that. However, the photo is of the Douglas Villa home ground, which is Memorial Drive. And we at Masterton AFC dont rely on sheep grazing as we own our own ground, and have a tractor for that. Memorial Drive is maintained by the council, and you could be right about the sheep there.
In regards to paying players, i would be interested to know what "expenses" are actually covered under players getting paid to play, considering i know a few players that have played for Wairarapa United, and their "expense" bill must have been pretty large, knowing the figures these players were getting. But at the end of the day, as long as it doesnt come out of Local sponsorship (not individual but trusts etc that other clubs can tap into for running costs), and it is not detrimental to local footy, who really cares???
In regards to paying players,..... But .......and it is not detrimental to local footy, who really cares???
Only the ones who think they are missing out.
In the last years miramar had womens teams I put close to $15000.00 in. No player payments were made just the costs associated with the womens game.
Better ways for money to be spent. Cutting junior subs and increasing junior participation as a result etc. even lowering senior fees a bit. Invest in some junior coaching I suppose (admittedly that's a bit fine). A few seniors and juniors parents probably don't like the fact their money is going toward paying the first team.
But yeah some valid points there too.
Saying its just the way it is, is pretty dismissive of the problem. I do understand though that it is a natural choice - paying players is almost something of a dominant strategy, when actually clubs would all be better off if nobody pays players. The problem is if a couple of clubs pays players, other clubs are better off following suit.
Better ways for money to be spent. Cutting junior subs and increasing junior participation as a result etc. even lowering senior fees a bit. Invest in some junior coaching I suppose (admittedly that's a bit fine). A few seniors and juniors parents probably don't like the fact their money is going toward paying the first team.
But yeah some valid points there too.
Saying its just the way it is, is pretty dismissive of the problem. I do understand though that it is a natural choice - paying players is almost something of a dominant strategy, when actually clubs would all be better off if nobody pays players. The problem is if a couple of clubs pays players, other clubs are better off following suit.
Goodnight enough on this circular topic.
Doesn't mean there isn't better areas in which $1100+ per week could be spent at the club.
But yeah think that's all there is to say. Like I said, its a natural choice given the situation, but I'm in no doubt we'd be better off if no club paid players.
I really only started off being my usual sarcastic self, but it turned a bit serious.
Better ways for money to be spent. Cutting junior subs and increasing junior participation as a result etc. even lowering senior fees a bit. Invest in some junior coaching I suppose (admittedly that's a bit fine). A few seniors and juniors parents probably don't like the fact their money is going toward paying the first team.
But yeah some valid points there too.
Saying its just the way it is, is pretty dismissive of the problem. I do understand though that it is a natural choice - paying players is almost something of a dominant strategy, when actually clubs would all be better off if nobody pays players. The problem is if a couple of clubs pays players, other clubs are better off following suit.
In regards to paying players,..... But .......and it is not detrimental to local footy, who really cares???
Only the ones who think they are missing out.
In the last years miramar had womens teams I put close to $15000.00 in. No player payments were made just the costs associated with the womens game.
I think the point i was making was that if you have a individual sponsor (like yourself or PK), and the choice of what they do with their money is theirs. Its when local grants are used for player payments, does this not reduce the amount of money available to other clubs for running costs? I individually sponsor our Cap 3 team, which includes new strips and travelling expenses, training gear etc. I do this so we dont take up the money available to our club from grants etc, for local level. It has cost me quite a bit, but i do this to support the club, and try and give a stepping stone to younger players wanting to play a higher level of footy (higher than local league). We have had a couple of players come from MAFC to Wairarapa United, including a young fellow who has played a few games off the bench for the Central league team. I am like most players, if i was asked to play for money, i would. But at a local level. Its a different story if players are paid to play, and are from outside the region. They are not there to support the "local" game, just supporting their pockets. I have no issues with clubs like Olympic/Miramar paying players, as most of these players are Wellington based, and have been brought up through their "local" system. Its when you have 70% of players not from the region, taking local players places, and will walk once the money dries up. Seen it before and it will happen again, where the money disappears, and so does the support for the game. Just look at the Wairarapa United Womens team from few years ago. Now there is no womens football at all in the Wairarapa.
The topic always comes up because its difficult for some to get their head around some of the money being spent. The only way it could change is if the governing body made new rules and had full access to clubs books to regulate it. even then clubs would probably still find ways around it.
Back to the real topic big weekend with C/L and C/cup games. Have not looked at the draw fully but the back up of mirvncr and MirvWai will be tough. With the travel NCR has will it help Wainui on Monday . Petone Wairarapa Olympic and L/Hutt all have C/cup fixtures I think.
Wairarapa have a tough couple of days in front of them too, with Olympic (CL) and then Miramar (CC) on Saturday and Monday respectively.
What time is the Olympic v Rapa game?
230. Should be a good one. May try and go if we end up cancelled.
Saturday all 2.30 pm
L/Hutt v Tawa Bell Park
Miramar v Napier D F Park
W/Suburbs v Petone Endevour Park
Wairarapa v Olympic Howard Booth
Wgtn United v Upper Hutt Newtown Park
Monday all 2.00 pm
Island Bay United v Brooklyn Northern United #IBUvBNU
Miramar Rangers v Wairarapa United D F Park #MIRvWRP
Naenae v Palmerston North Marist #NAEvPNM
Inglewood v Tawa #INGvTAW
Napier City Rovers v Wainuiomata #NCRvNUI
New Plymouth Rangers v Lower Hutt City #NPRvLHC
Petone v Wellington Olympic Petone #PETvOLY
Waterside Karori v Stop Out #WKRvSTP
Some massive games this weekend. Looking forward to the Miramar Chatham Cup game.
Some good cup fixtures in there. Inglewood v Tawa could be a good one, especially with Tawa travelling.
Miramar v Napier 3 - 2
Any new from Wairarapa v Olympic ..
Wairarapa united 2 - Olympic 0
Wairarapa united 2 - Olympic 0
Apperantely Olympics coach got his matching orders too. Not confirmed. Also a red to another Olympic player
Not good Olympic have enough trouble with player numbers.
Heard today Wairarapa changed to a Blue strip to play Olympic and this was not picked up in the C/Football C/League mid week teams notification and confirmation sheet. (By Olympic - edit)
Mick was sent from the bench for protesting a call.
Which player got sent?
No, did not get that - they have a number of players who fire as quick as a WSW Flare!
Confirmed about the blue strip. Wairarapa player on the left
Memo to all C/ League and Prem teams don't assume. Points are everything after the game but get the chance to play for them. STRESS VALLEY!
Does the Rapa playing blue cost the club in points or something like that? Seems strange that you would just play in a completely different strip.
It is no offence if they advised C/football on the mid week player schedule. Think it just caught Oly out.
It is no offence if they advised C/football on the mid week player schedule. Think it just caught Oly out.
Led to believe I have made an incorrect statement about the weekly C/L player schedule. ?
Can Miramar bounce back and take down Olympic.
Or will the loss of players on either side decide the game.
^^^ Yes. Chettleburgh back from suspension. Have the U-20's left yet?
Think they've played their last games for clubs.
Top of the table clash tomorrow, will be interesting. I think Mar will win.
Upper Hutt v Lower Hutt at Maidstone at 3:30, preceded by Upper Hutt women's Central League Side v Seatoun at 1:30.
These are of course merely curtain raiser to the Cap 4 , bottom of the Table Clash between Upper Hutt and Lower Huttt at 5:30!
A veritable festival of football at Maidstone!
Top of the table clash tomorrow, will be interesting. I think Mar will win.