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WeeNix
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zonknz wrote:

whatever wrote:

 Wests, puppets of Ole who are told what to do but have the potential to be a top club in their own right without being dictated to by Ole.

I mean- wests highest non-ole team is also cap 4. I would suggest, on the balance of things,  wests probably are ok with how their partnership with ole has worked out for them?

So you see it a partnership? I would say a dictatorship, they have very little say over their club

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whatever wrote:

So you see it a partnership? I would say a dictatorship, they have very little say over their club

They could stop at any time. *shrugs*. Football is amateur in nz*; clubs do not 'own' their players.

*yes nix etc.

WeeNix
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zonknz wrote:

[quote=whatever]

So you see it a partnership? I would say a dictatorship, they have very little say over their club

They could stop at any time. *shrugs*. Football is amateur in nz*; clubs do not 'own' their players.

*yes nix etc.

[/quote

Well Ole think they own their players they force their kids to play for Wests and no doubt, now Wainui

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whatever wrote:

Well Ole think they own their players they force their kids to play for Wests and no doubt, now Wainui

Yes - it's well known that all the kids at ole are held prisoner there at gunpoint. If you offered an ambitious player the choice between a season in cap prem, or one in central, i can imagine what they would choose.

WeeNix
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zonknz wrote:

whatever wrote:

Well Ole think they own their players they force their kids to play for Wests and no doubt, now Wainui

Yes - it's well known that all the kids at ole are held prisoner there at gunpoint. If you offered an ambitious player the choice between a season in cap prem, or one in central, i can imagine what they would choose.

It's fine if they can choose. But Ole do not give them the option to choose any club of their choice. They must play as dictated to by Ole.

Ever wonder why Ole have never  started their own Club? They would need a constitution , hold AGMs and adhere to democratic votes. 

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Ole football academy is a registered non-profit. You can look at their agreed rules on the charity commision website, if you so wish, including the structure of their board, and their required meetings inc their AGM.

This just in - smuggled photo from kenepuru earlier today!

WeeNix
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My point is that Ole is not a club. If so they would have members who should they wish, vote the Board out. Instead of risking a club set up  they have an arrangement with clubs where the clubs just do what they are told. 

And Wainui are the latest mugs.

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whatever wrote:

My point is that Ole is not a club. If so they would have members who should they wish, vote the Board out. Instead of risking a club set up  they have an arrangement with clubs where the clubs just do what they are told. 

And Wainui are the latest mugs.

 So you'd prefer a completely non-competitive Wainui side, who'd likely perform like Wellington United did a couple of years ago, rather than more young kids getting minutes at the highest level available and developing their games? Wainui, Wests, NP Rangers and anyone else embracing the Olé way know exactly what they're signing up for - bit sad that you think they're incapable of making that decision for themselves.

Its not like Olé is taking them for a ride, there's a proven track record of success that these clubs are looking to get in on.

Legend
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zonknz wrote:

Ole football academy is a registered non-profit. You can look at their agreed rules on the charity commision website, if you so wish, including the structure of their board, and their required meetings inc their AGM.

This just in - smuggled photo from kenepuru earlier today!

Jesus they are loaded. They should do a hostile takeover of Nui

Marquee
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Bayern wrote:

So if Wainui can't put a team in the CL. Then the NP team in the play off get first option. There is no way Ole/wests should be given an additional playing platform for their kids who are bottle nicking.

The game in Wellington is becoming 'if your face fits with CF, they will do summersaults to make it work for you'....Joke 

I agree with you in principle that morally, NPR should probably get the slot, but that isn't how it works.  It's not CF's place to give away.  Wainui have the spot, and they can fill their team however they want.  None of CF's business as long as the players are duly registered and meet any other CF regs.

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aitkenmike wrote:

Bayern wrote:

So if Wainui can't put a team in the CL. Then the NP team in the play off get first option. There is no way Ole/wests should be given an additional playing platform for their kids who are bottle nicking.

The game in Wellington is becoming 'if your face fits with CF, they will do summersaults to make it work for you'....Joke 

I agree with you in principle that morally, NPR should probably get the slot, but that isn't how it works.  It's not CF's place to give away.  Wainui have the spot, and they can fill their team however they want.  None of CF's business as long as the players are duly registered and meet any other CF regs.

Will be interesting to see if Ole do release players to be registered to Wainui, knowing that they can't call on them should/when they get injuries in their top team... also then any FIFA development fee - where does that go when they are registered to and playing for Wainui?

Legend
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aitkenmike wrote:

Bayern wrote:

So if Wainui can't put a team in the CL. Then the NP team in the play off get first option. There is no way Ole/wests should be given an additional playing platform for their kids who are bottle nicking.

The game in Wellington is becoming 'if your face fits with CF, they will do summersaults to make it work for you'....Joke 

I agree with you in principle that morally, NPR should probably get the slot, but that isn't how it works.  It's not CF's place to give away.  Wainui have the spot, and they can fill their team however they want.  None of CF's business as long as the players are duly registered and meet any other CF regs.

Will be interesting to see if Ole do release players to be registered to Wainui, knowing that they can't call on them should/when they get injuries in their top team... also then any FIFA development fee - where does that go when they are registered to and playing for Wainui?

apart from transferring them

Not Boyd
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So many assumptions too. Does anyone know for sure it’s going to happen?

Legend
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Tyler wrote:

So many assumptions too. Does anyone know for sure it’s going to happen?

yeah it is

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Obviously not happening anytime soon - Wainui have defaulted their first Hilton game.

WeeNix
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Nelfoos wrote:

whatever wrote:

My point is that Ole is not a club. If so they would have members who should they wish, vote the Board out. Instead of risking a club set up  they have an arrangement with clubs where the clubs just do what they are told. 

And Wainui are the latest mugs.

 So you'd prefer a completely non-competitive Wainui side, who'd likely perform like Wellington United did a couple of years ago, rather than more young kids getting minutes at the highest level available and developing their games? Wainui, Wests, NP Rangers and anyone else embracing the Olé way know exactly what they're signing up for - bit sad that you think they're incapable of making that decision for themselves.

Its not like Olé is taking them for a ride, there's a proven track record of success that these clubs are looking to get in on.

Wainui cannot field a team in Central League so they should withdraw from Central league and enter a grade commensurate with the ability of the players they have at their disposal. 

The culture between Ole and Wainui is poles apart and makes no sense. I wonder if the Wainui supporters will set up the leaners at the northern end of their field and down several pints whilst games are in progress and hurl profanities as they have for many years

Marquee
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whatever wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

whatever wrote:

My point is that Ole is not a club. If so they would have members who should they wish, vote the Board out. Instead of risking a club set up  they have an arrangement with clubs where the clubs just do what they are told. 

And Wainui are the latest mugs.

 So you'd prefer a completely non-competitive Wainui side, who'd likely perform like Wellington United did a couple of years ago, rather than more young kids getting minutes at the highest level available and developing their games? Wainui, Wests, NP Rangers and anyone else embracing the Olé way know exactly what they're signing up for - bit sad that you think they're incapable of making that decision for themselves.

Its not like Olé is taking them for a ride, there's a proven track record of success that these clubs are looking to get in on.

Wainui cannot field a team in Central League so they should withdraw from Central league and enter a grade commensurate with the ability of the players they have at their disposal. 

The culture between Ole and Wainui is poles apart and makes no sense. I wonder if the Wainui supporters will set up the leaners at the northern end of their field and down several pints whilst games are in progress and hurl profanities as they have for many years

But technically they can enter a team - if players legitimately register with the club, by definition they have a team. Unless you think CF should institute a regulation that disallows Ole academy trained players from playing for anyone but West's.  

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Yeah luckily wainui never flew in people from the other side of the world, and all players were born and raised east of Gracefield road.

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Is the CL fixture list available somewhere ?

Legend
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I can’t see the Nui club bar thriving this year

Trialist
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about 12 years

Feverish wrote:

I can’t see the Nui club bar thriving this year

Why not? 

The spectators and players from lower grades will still be thirsty.

They might increase their wine sales with all the ole mums in attendance.

Legend
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Traveller wrote:

Feverish wrote:

I can’t see the Nui club bar thriving this year

Why not? 

The spectators and players from lower grades will still be thirsty.

They might increase their wine sales with all the ole mums in attendance.

Only Woodys and Tui on sale mate

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Last time I ref'd there they had a meat raffle

WeeNix
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almost 14 years

I can see multiple transfers between Wainui and Wests days before the mid season deadline. Wouldn't be surprised if the whole Wests Cap Prem team play half a season there and half a season at Wainui!

Not Boyd
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over 13 years

Could Wests reserves play in Central league if they won Cap Prem?

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Tyler wrote:

Could Wests reserves play in Central league if they won Cap Prem?

no you can only have 1 team per club in the top three divisions (Central League, Cap Prem, Cap 1)

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ChopperNZ wrote:

Obviously not happening anytime soon - Wainui have defaulted their first Hilton game.

No they didn't

Not Boyd
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So an intra-club match?!

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over 14 years

At least nobody will have to travel far.

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about 7 years
Tyler wrote:

Could Wests reserves play in Central league if they won Cap Prem?

Wests "reserves" will now be called Wanui. The Cap Prem team will become Wests 3rd team

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about 9 years

When is the draw out?

Appiah without the pace
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New thread for new season https://yellowfever.co.nz/categories/asb-premiership-ocl/topics/central-league-2021

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