Chatham Cup 2023

It's the 100th year of the Chatham Cup and it kicked of this weekend with preliminary round games in Auckland.

The Wellington preliminary round games take place on Tuesday (ANZAC Day) all kicking off at 2pm They are

Paekakariki v Naenae, Campbell Park, Paekakariki
Lower Hutt City v Brooklyn Northern United, Fraser Park
Wellington United v Seatoun, Te Whaea
Victoria University v Wainuiomata, Boyd Wilson
Horowhenua Coastal (playing under KCU) v Greytown, Weka Park
Island Bay United v Marist, Wakefield Park
Upper Hutt City v Stokes Valley, Maidstone

If you're interested in a bot more background etc I've started blogging again so click this link to see what I've said and get along to a game on Tuesday

Today's results

 Paekakariki (H-K Leagues) 3 Naenae (Cap 2) 2
Lower Hutt City (Cap Prem) 4 Brooklyn Northern United (Cap 1) 0
Wellington United (Cap 3) 4  Seatoun (Cap Prem) 5
Victoria University (Cap 1) 1  Wainuiomata (Cap Prem) 2
Horowhenua Coastal (playing under KCU) (Cap 1) 1 v Greytown (Cap 3) 0
Island Bay United (Cap Prem) 6 v Marist (Cap 2) 1
Upper Hutt City (Cap Prem) 11 Stokes Valley(Cap 2) 2

Central United 2 Waitemata 8

Ouch. Guess they can concentrate on being in the same league system as Auckland City now.

Does anyone know when the next round is drawn?

TexasRed

Does anyone know when the next round is drawn?

It has tended to be the second working day after the previous round.  I guess it gives them a day to get into the office and print what needs to be printed.

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Central League teams have byes

Always interesting to see what NZF gets right or wrong in the draw structure.

In the Northern region, 14 teams have byes, the 12 Northern League sides plus two NRFL Champ sides (Onehunga-Mangere and Waiheke).  There should have been two extra preliminary round games so that only the 12 Northern League sides received byes to Round 2.

In the Central region, the 9 Central League sides have byes to R2, thus the Prelim and R1 games have served to whittle the other 23 sides down to 7. (7+9 = 16 sides in R2).  

In Mainland region, there are 16 teams remaining after 4 preliminary round games.  4 in Nelson, 12 in Canterbury so no byes needed, and no doubt that draw will become open in R2 or R3. 

In Southern region, there are 12 teams remaining after 1 preliminary round game so 4 byes needed, fortunately the two Southern League sides (Dunedin City Royals and Green Island) were among those that received the bye, hopefully that was deliberate.  They could have avoided the single preliminary round game and only needed 3 byes in R1 .

In summary, don't know what logic they are using in the North.  Last year 13 teams had the bye to R2, this year 14.  It should be 12 and adjust number of preliminary games accordingly.  

 

HT Christchurch United 3 Parklands 0

FT Christchurch United 9 Parklands 0 HT 3 - 0

You have to worry about the level down from south island league. Parklands are second in the premiership and looked like deer in the headlights last night. What made it worse was most of the second half they were playing 7 or 8 under 20 players who don't normally start for the top side.

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You have to worry about the level down from south island league. Parklands are second in the premiership and looked like deer in the headlights last night. What made it worse was most of the second half they were playing 7 or 8 under 20 players who don't normally start for the top side.

The best 7 Christchurch teams are in the Southern League. Parklands are the second best of the next lot, so 9th best team in Christchurch. Not to mention they've overperformed to even get to 2nd place, and may not stay that high. Chch United are a pretty mean outfit at home and can really put up a score when they want to, wouldn't read into it an awful lot. 

Waitemata 3 v Hibiscus Coast 2 at Stanmore Bay
Guess it is an upset but Waitemata the better side
Coast didn;t help themselves by resting a number of players , particularly the goal keeper
Coast were 2-0 up at half time (Mayes and Martin) but that was flattering. Waitemata were justifiably aggrieved at Coasts second goal as one of their players was down in the box with a head injury.Game was delayed quite a while whilst he came to his senses.
Coast did he the bar 3 or 4 times in the second half but Waitemata were really dominate. You felt if they got one back , they would get an equaliser and once they got an equaliser then there would be on;y one winner.Winning goal came in last couple of minutes
Coast had an equaliser correctly disallowed in the last minute for a push at a corner
HBC goalkeeper being rested a significant contributor to the result which might seem unkind 
Thankfully the ice cream truck made an appearance for the first time this season

Mainland
Cashmere Technical 1 (Andrew Storer) Selwyn 0 HT 1 - 0

Christchurch United 9 (Eoghan Stokes 2 - incl. pen, Sam Philip 2, Dan MacLennan, Hugo Debenham, Jackson Cole, Daniel Meyn, own goal) Parklands 0 HT 3 - 0

Halswell 1 (Isaac Williams) FC Twenty11 2 Nathan Dix, Will Fairley) HT 0 - 1

Nomads 1 (Luca MacLeod-Watts) Ferrymead Bays 2 (Joaquin Julva - pen, Kenshin Hayashi) HT 1 - 0

Universities 3 (Stu Campbell, Charlie Peacocke, Luke Whitwell)  Waimak 2 (Luke Fraser, Farhad Hosseiny) HT 2 - 1
Motueka 2 (James Latimer, Benjamin Kerry) FC Nelson 1 (TJ Hanson) HT 2 - 1

Southern Football
Mosgiel 7 (Rhys Quarrell 4, Rory Finlay, Luke Clissold, George Duncan) Northern Hearts 2 (Brodie Chambers, Ryan Bagrie) HT 3 - 0
Northern 1 (Al Julanda Al Mawali) Roslyn 2 (Nathan Wilkie, Dominic Madden) HT 0 - 0 
Queenstown 1 (TBA) Wanaka 3 (TBA) HT 1 - 1
Thistle 4 (Will Cairns 2, Lewys McLaren, Javed Rava) Grant Braes 1 Matthew Adye) HT 2 - 1

Mainland
Central SC 0 Nelson Suburbs 10 (Lennon Whewell 4, Corey Larsen 2, Alex Ridsdale, Sebastian Hickman, Ethan Turner, Guillermo Gomez) HT 0 - 5

Coastal Spirit 5 (Omar Cameron 2, Domm McGarr, Jonathan Smoothy, own goal) Burwood 1 (Scott Zimmermann) HT 1 - 1

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You have to worry about the level down from south island league. Parklands are second in the premiership and looked like deer in the headlights last night. What made it worse was most of the second half they were playing 7 or 8 under 20 players who don't normally start for the top side.

Hmmm, a bit unfair I would think. A local team with loyal players vs the money team in CHCH who actively take the best players from other teams, get players from the north island and even overseas. CUFC have let in 2 goals all season in the top southern league, started their main team and added a few youngsters at the end - definitely not 7 or 8

I know NZF get a lot of shark that is subjective - but what can't be argued is there complete lack of care re the Chatham Cup and Kate Sheppard cup - it's midday on Monday and not a single tweet, post or article about results or when the draw is and they don't seem to understand about answering DM's or posts re the above.

Granted the 100 years of Chatham Cup stories is a good piece but why do that so well and then just ignore the basics?  

EDIT - It's now 4pm and I don't think I have seen an update on results for the Chatham Cup or Kate Sheppard Cup yet....

None of this is at all surprising, which is probably the saddest thing about it.

chopah

I know NZF get a lot of shark that is subjective - but what can't be argued is there complete lack of care re the Chatham Cup and Kate Sheppard cup - it's midday on Monday and not a single tweet, post or article about results or when the draw is and they don't seem to understand about answering DM's or posts re the above.

Granted the 100 years of Chatham Cup stories is a good piece but why do that so well and then just ignore the basics?  

EDIT - It's now 4pm and I don't think I have seen an update on results for the Chatham Cup or Kate Sheppard Cup yet....

I know it's not NZF, however Mainland posted a write-up of the South Island games on their website about lunchtime today. You can find that here.

so as I know these kids I did my research. 4 started the game, 1 on debut and 1 in his second start, 4 came on as reserves and played 37 minutes minimum,. Of these 8 all have triple the minutes than first team played this season in reserves.

 I stand by the comment.

Roys town

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You have to worry about the level down from south island league. Parklands are second in the premiership and looked like deer in the headlights last night. What made it worse was most of the second half they were playing 7 or 8 under 20 players who don't normally start for the top side.

Hmmm, a bit unfair I would think. A local team with loyal players vs the money team in CHCH who actively take the best players from other teams, get players from the north island and even overseas. CUFC have let in 2 goals all season in the top southern league, started their main team and added a few youngsters at the end - definitely not 7 or 8

I know not everyone on facebook this this was posted on the New Zealand Football page early this afternoon.
Big weekend of Round

football just gone in the #KateSheppardCup and #ChathamCup100

Follow the live draw on Twitter from 1pm tomorrow!

chopah

I know NZF get a lot of shark that is subjective - but what can't be argued is there complete lack of care re the Chatham Cup and Kate Sheppard cup - it's midday on Monday and not a single tweet, post or article about results or when the draw is and they don't seem to understand about answering DM's or posts re the above.

Granted the 100 years of Chatham Cup stories is a good piece but why do that so well and then just ignore the basics?  

EDIT - It's now 4pm and I don't think I have seen an update on results for the Chatham Cup or Kate Sheppard Cup yet....

AllWhites82

I know not everyone on facebook this this was posted on the New Zealand Football page early this afternoon.
Big weekend of Round

football just gone in the #KateSheppardCup and #ChathamCup100

Follow the live draw on Twitter from 1pm tomorrow!

chopah

I know NZF get a lot of shark that is subjective - but what can't be argued is there complete lack of care re the Chatham Cup and Kate Sheppard cup - it's midday on Monday and not a single tweet, post or article about results or when the draw is and they don't seem to understand about answering DM's or posts re the above.

Granted the 100 years of Chatham Cup stories is a good piece but why do that so well and then just ignore the basics?  

EDIT - It's now 4pm and I don't think I have seen an update on results for the Chatham Cup or Kate Sheppard Cup yet....

yeah they posted it on twitter as well - at about 5pm.

It's an immensely underwhelming update for what is essentially the centenary of the Chatham Cup and of course an important year in Women's Football for the Kate Sheppard Cup - but yes at least we now know it's 1pm tomorrow.   That's good.

In the United squad for the Cup game there were 8 U20 players.
Four of those started - Watts, King, Debenham and Meyn and at one stage all eight were on the park in the second half between the 59th and 68th minutes after Cole, Cheo, Molnar and Prathumphthak had been subbed on, and in the 68th minutes Debenham was subbed off for Philip so between the 69th and the final whistle there were 7 U20 players on for United, so Roy is correct.

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so as I know these kids I did my research. 4 started the game, 1 on debut and 1 in his second start, 4 came on as reserves and played 37 minutes minimum,. Of these 8 all have triple the minutes than first team played this season in reserves.

 I stand by the comment.

Roys town

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You have to worry about the level down from south island league. Parklands are second in the premiership and looked like deer in the headlights last night. What made it worse was most of the second half they were playing 7 or 8 under 20 players who don't normally start for the top side.

Hmmm, a bit unfair I would think. A local team with loyal players vs the money team in CHCH who actively take the best players from other teams, get players from the north island and even overseas. CUFC have let in 2 goals all season in the top southern league, started their main team and added a few youngsters at the end - definitely not 7 or 8

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Big game in Auckland as United take on City
Coastal Spirit and Cashmere Tech get same draw as their women's teams
Miramar v Stop Out looks to be pick of Central Region games

also interesting to see how West Auckland got into second round given that they lost 9-8 on pens to Papakura City in the first round!

The JourneyFan

also interesting to see how West Auckland got into second round given that they lost 9-8 on pens to Papakura City in the first round!

 Papakura fielded an ineligible player - probably got caught by the 10 business days rule.

chopah

The JourneyFan

also interesting to see how West Auckland got into second round given that they lost 9-8 on pens to Papakura City in the first round!

 Papakura fielded an ineligible player - probably got caught by the 10 business days rule.

cheers, but really goes back to your point about their promotion, or lack of, of the Chatham Cup. Especially in its 100th year
in the past they would have issued a statement not just a footnote on the draw which was easy to miss

NCR v Island Bay could be one to watch. IB have been in scintillating form this season. 

The JourneyFan

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Big game in Auckland as United take on City
Coastal Spirit and Cashmere Tech get same draw as their women's teams
Miramar v Stop Out looks to be pick of Central Region games

Mainland Football
Ferrymead Bays 2 (Daniel Thoms 2) FC Twenty11 1 (Alban Foissy - pen) HT 0 - 1 
Motueka 0 Nelson Suburbs 9 (Connor Gillespie 7, Alex Ward, own goal) HT 0 - 5

Mainland Football
Coastal Spirit 2 (Jack Mitchell, Omar Cameron) Cashmere Technical 4 (Garbhan Coughlan 2, Aidan Barbour-Ryan, Andrew Storer) HT 1 - 2

Southern Football
Mosgiel 0 Otago Universities 4 (Ben Thompson, Liam Reynolds, Jacob Quinn, Jack Julian) HT 0 - 4
Thistle 0 Roslyn Waikari 5 (Sam Cosgrove, Nick Treadwell, Josh Lucas, Nathan Wilkie, Dominic Madden) HT 0 - 2
Queens Park 0 Green Island 1 (Stefan Milidrag) HT 0 - 1 
Wanaka 1 (Dakota Brady) Dunedin City Royals 0 HT 1 - 0

Mainland Football
Universities 1 (Jacob Brooks) Christchurch United 3 (Eoghan Stokes, Matt-Tod-Smith - pen, Jago Godden) HT 0 - 1

Rewa went down 1-0 to Eastern Suburbs.

Rewa had the better 1st half, Monty missed a couple of good chances.

Eastern Suburbs better team in the 2nd Half, 1-0 up in the 86th minute.

Rewa pushed forward looking for an equaliser, few half chances, best was when
Monty crossed and I believe it was James Hoyt hit the crossbar with his header.

Next round draw today?

Buffon II

Next round draw today?

no it'll be tomorrow as yesterday was a holiday

10:30am tomorrow just to keep everyone guessing.

Melville 1 v Takapuna 0 at Taharoto this afternoon
Own goal in first couple of minutes the difference
Pretty dire game with both sides toothless up front
Interested to see Sam Burfoot out there for Taka - apparently a falling out at Birko.
Great to see Aaron Scott still going round for Melville.Surprised he is only 36.seems to have been there for ever

South Island Results:
Ferrymead Bays 0 Christchurch United 1 (Matt Tod-Smith) aet

Nelson Suburbs 0 Cashmere Technical 1 (Garbhan Coughlan) HT 0 - 0

Roslyn Wakari 1 (Sam Cosgrove) Otago University 0

Wanaka 0 Green Island 0 aet Wanaka 3 - 2 on pens

Round 4 draw (games 8/9 July)
Western Springs v Auckland City
Fencibles United v Melville United
Birkenhead United v Eastern Suburbs or Tauranga City
Hamilton Wanderers v Ngaruawhaia

Napier City Rovers v Waterside Karori
Petone v Wellington Olympic

Cashmere Technical v Christchurch United
Roslyn Wakari v Wanaka

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Trillian Trust, your boys took a hell of a beating!

WE'VE DONE IT!!!!!@hales_scotty you bloody legend

Springs 3@AucklandCity_FC 2@NZ_Football #chathamcup100

— Western Springs AFC (@WspringsFC) July 8, 2023

Game between Cashmere Technical and Christchurch United now at English Park, still at 2pm.