geez mate bitter much? we left Karori for pretty genuine reasons - given none of us live out that way any more...it was only logical that we moved to a club closer to us. Besides the fact that when we advised of the move the response from Karori was fairly bitchy to honest - no thanks for the decade of membership and bar takings, no best wishes nothing, and my email advising of the move was more than thankful for all the help I'd had from the club.