College football

College football

well for any body like me that is still in college, here is the oppurtunity to talk up your teams. just thaught id give this a go.

Resists temptation to ask about Coll at the hIlton this week.

College Football = Waste of kids time

any Young aspiring football player who is left out of the college team should get the mates together and ring their local club. U21 Sunday league will stop the rot.    

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AJ132010-05-29 19:01:48

If you were a half decent player then you wouldn't care about the current U21 grade. If you were good enough for 1st XI then you would have been far better off playing college then playing U21. U21 at the moment is only really for players that aren't good enough for 1st XI or are out of college and aren't good enough for the top few sides. Would be interested to know who you are AJ21, sounds like you were the same year as me at Tawa college and weren't good enough for 1st XI football.

I don't really understand the hate towards college football. It isn't a waste of time at all. A lot of the good players within Wellington have gone through the college football ranks. Sure if you are a superstar then by all means play club football instead of college football (e.g. Louie Fenton playing Tawa 1st team in his 6th form year instead of playing 1st XI). But for a lot of players playing 1st XI is a good option, and far better than playing for your clubs 3rd team or playing 16th grade regional league.

Ideally if you are a good player, then in your 6th and 7th form years you should play for college in the morning and then for your club's 2nd team in the arvo if possible.

I'd also be interested in your rationale for college football being poorly organised in your day especially in the years 2002 and 2003 when your college (Tawa) won the 1st XI title in both of those years, and a lot of those players have now gone through to Tawa's 1st team which is now in Central League. Sounds like you really have a bone to pick with Tawa College and Tawa in general.

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AJ132010-05-29 19:01:22

I agree with Oranje. If you are reasonably good but not exceptional, then college football is great, lets skills develop without worrying about bigger stronger people pushing you off the ball. If you are exceptional (good enough to play Central League/Cap Prem, maybe even Cap 1 for a top clubs second team) then of course you are better off being able to play there. For the majority of kids in the majority of colleges, college football is the way to go.

In 2008 just played for 1st 11 then club in the afternoon, It was good getting 2 games on the same day

i liked the way how the hutt schools used to do it (dont know if they still do) with that wednesday arvo league. alot of the guys i was playing with were playing for hibs and kapiti during the week, then club stuff on the weekends. kapiti schools were also part of it, i think wellington high had weekday teams also.

Thats all gone now. 14th grade up now you only have schoool footy on a Saturday.

I rather enjoyed my Tuesday night games to be honest. But now it's all Saturday games.

And btw... HIBS FTW

Playing School and club this year. Thanks to Smithy I'm playing Petone U21s. Should be good as. Not sure which school team I'm in yet..

You've got to get selected first Hampster, maybe turn up to training once before you claim a spot in the team...

simon_hampton2010-03-06 10:06:42

Coll will win it, only if Shogan is in first XI though.

HIBs will struggle this year with a large number of boys moving on. The McPeake twins missing would be a kick in the groin to any team

Tawa College will be strong, as they have been for the past 7 or 8 years. I pick them to come close this year. Good start at the Hilton Petone. Have beaten Petone and Island Bay 2nd teams. I presume both these teams arent at full strength, but still very encouraging results. But yeah Wgtn Coll should win it based on the players they have to pick from, but would be nice to see Tawa take it out! Mullet2010-03-06 22:18:16

Not always the case, i remember a few years ago every team from their 1sts down to 5th or 6th were easy beats. A real off year for Wgtn Coll, was either 02 or 03.
AJ132010-03-09 21:12:57

Wellington Coll 1st Xl are never easy beats for other college teams....who cares about their 5th or 6th teams, that's not exactly the depth im talking about here.

Mind you i do remember beating them 14-1 (i think it was that score line) in the Chatham Cup in 2003 or 2004.

Angus unlucky son :)

Anyways i guess i will always be in favour of Tawa College to do well as i used to go there. Weren't that good when i was there in the late 90's, but the lads had some quality years after that. Good to see most of them at Tawa club now.

Think im off topic now, but College football does have its place and that U21 league from what I have seen is a waste of time at the moment.

Mullet, didn't you play for Manchester United 1st team or was it Arsenal 1st team? Why are you still playing your trade here? Didn't they renew yoru contract? May be Ricki will sign you up?  You are far too good for your own good.

Yeah that 03 team was weak sauce...

I dont think the U21 is a waste of time, I just think its still very much in its infancy. Too many players give up after school as the transition from college to mens can be difficult for some (for whatever reason).
And also there are actually schools out there that dont even have teams, or if they do they may not be very good or may be poorly organised (I know when I was at Tawa if you werent in the first XI nobody cared about you). Also Bishop Viard College usually had a team but they were always playing in the lowest college grades because they just didnt have the depth out there. In this instance i believe club football (U21) would be the better option. I also couldnt imagine Samuel Marsden out here in Whitby would have enough for a competitive team but theyre big enough that there would definitely be a few players there.
I think over time it will grow to be more successful. And although it may not be as strong as senior footy, it will keep players in the game, and if organised properly could be a good way for clubs to introduce players to senior football.
AJ132010-03-09 23:08:51

you dont know what your on about mate it wasnt 02 or 03.

02 - beaten once by secondary school opposition, 3rd at national tournament
03- 4/10 in fed reserve, 3rd round chatham cup (knocked out by island bay 1-0) 3rd at national tournament

get your facts straight

Haha, good to see you again BobBolton, been a long time, you living back at home now??? You gona play at all this year mate?

You gona be at our first game against Wests this season???

Mullet2010-03-10 13:49:13

loyalty smithy, plus im easily wound up

Ok for some reason i thought Wel Col stopped playing in Fed reserve pre 04. I played fed reserve from 2004 until it was disbanded and never recalled playing well coll... weird.

so it wouldve been there 2nd team that wernt that good. but yeah like someone said, it was forever ago.

neither do you mate. i said U21 would be a good grade to retain players, regardless of skill level (retaining post secondary players is one of the biggest problems for football in NZ at the moment). so to say the Chatham Cup winners would thrash them, it makes little to no sense to me why you would say that as its completely irrelevant to the point i was bringing forward.

i also said it was early days, the competition will expand in the following seasons and if schools could work a little bit better with clubs they should be able to have players sign up the season following the end of school in a good number.
AJ132010-03-11 00:07:25

Coll only has 3 maybe 4 this year competitive teams. 1st and 2nd are generally competitive. 3rds was a joke last year as you got plenty of decent 5th formers on the brink of 2nds and then quite a few older no hopes who wanted to play competitive and as it was the lowest competitive team that was the only place to go. They ended up having a ridiculous squad of around 22 or so. This year a few more are playing competitive so I think 4ths will be quite poor but 3rds could be a decent side.

5ths & 6ths will be pretty decent this year. Probably better than 4ths and maybe 3rds. You heard it hear first. Tbh, at coll the lowest competitive side is often worse than most social teams because its full of serious no hopers.

Spoken like a man who didn't make the 3rd XI.

You'll see Smithy. Even though they haven't had trials yet! Dick

Hamilton Boy's High to finish in the top two at nationals.

^^ Sounds to me as though they should be playing in the NZFC