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College Poaching

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
College Poaching
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Anyone see Deaker on sport last night?
kevin fallon on it along with some muppet from college sport about the poaching of players and the now rules where if a college gets caught its a year ban and job loss for coaches/teachers involved.
 
mags has been doing it for years - michael madden i remember they got a few years back
 
anything like this still happening around wellington in colleges or is it just wellington college rugby going around out to porirua grabbing the big samoans for their front row
undertaker22008-05-15 21:17:02
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yes the latter only.

Mostly football players stay with thier Colleges. Its more a problem in rugby (allegedly).
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
A Wellington College 1st XI player moved to the College this year from Pram Coll for the football but I'm not sure you could call that poaching.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
How can they call it poaching. The colleges had nothing to do with developing the player in the first place. You could say the Colleges are poaching kids from the clubs.
 
Kids/Parents choose where to send their kids to school for many reasons, the main one being whats best for the kid, wether it be for education/sport/music etc.
nightz2008-05-16 09:59:16

A dog with a bone :)

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
poaching in rugby in the porirua region is starting to go in reverse, Mana College have been actively poaching top players from outside of the Porirua Basin......its no secret this has gone on for years. There were plenty of Viard boys who played 1st XV in 4th form who wound up at St Pats.

Jerry Collins was poached from Tawa College - thats a well known FACT.

Come on nightz its poaching!
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's secondary school sport. Who really gives a sh1t anyway. In the long run, if a better school gets a good player better exposure, then good on them. I went to a school who had the entire 1st XV on scholarship, plus 4 in the second XV who couldn't make the 1st XV.

Its no longer a problem.

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mana College do not poach players. I have watched 12 of the current team come up through the school from year 9. There are two who have joined in the senior years from other schools (one from Tawa) and two recently arrived students from Fiji. Hardly a consistent poaching policy!!

Basketball is more of a problem than football or rugby in my opinion, as players follow top coaches around.
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
mags poached joe simpkins from naenae coll but then again can't blame him haha
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
All this talk of poaching is making me hungry. I'm off to tell the woman to cook me some eggs (poached of course)

A dog with a bone :)

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
College football should be played midweek and kids should be allowed to play for their clubs right through.
OK The first XI get looked after but what about those who dont make it. I have seen plenty of Central League Players who, as kids, never made rep teams in the Hutt Valley  (Where most schools allow them to play for the clubs). The only reason they survived to contribute at an older age is that they were allowed to grow up in a football environment, being coached by people interested in the sport, with proper facilities and developing some kind of club loyalty.

We're Forever Causing Trouble

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Couldn't agree more with your first sentence, UIron.
 
Schoolboys football should be restricted to Tuesday (prefereably) or Thursday afternoons, allowing the people who matter most - the players themselves - the chance to train with their clubs on Thursday evening, then play for them on Saturdays.
 
This arrangement is in place with schoolgirls football - schools Wednesday, clubs Sunday - and it works extremely well, so why shouldn't this model apply to the schoolboys' scene as well?
 
(Probably because there are way too many egos involved in the men's side of the game in this country for any such harmonious agreement between its various factions to materialise for the game's collective benefit, he says, answering his own question!)
 
 
Cheers,
 
JR
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I've never said this before in my life and am unlikely to again: JR is dead right.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
There is a similar set up with junior cricket in the UK but the opposite way round I believe where you play a short, limited overs game for your club on Wednesday evening and then for your school on Saturday. But JR is exactly spot on.
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yes the girls football works very well. All the Porirua Basin girls play in the Wednesday leagues for college but then choose a club for Sunday. Some elite players go to clubs in Wellington but we have a good mix (inc social players) in our new Porirua City Div 3 team. The college girls mixing with the more experienced girls gives them more understanding of team play, tactics etc on the Sunday which they take back to college games.
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Orpewise - I have it on good authority from 2 kids IN THE TEAM. I live 2 mins from
the school and have family there........do u want more credibility?
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Rugby: James Soliolo doesnt count...he was ours through junior school to year 11 then went off to WellC and Viard then back to us. Taniala is the only 'poaching' claim I will accept (ex Tawa). So I dont know where the other claims come from frankly.

If we were talking basketball then its a different story....players follow coaches and success at most of the top ten schools nationwide.

I wish we could be accused of poaching in football...I think our 14-0 home defeat last Tuesday kills that concept!!!!
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