Girl in boys team allegedly shaken by rival coach

Girl in boys team allegedly shaken by rival coach

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3987890/Young-girl-allegedly-shaken-by-rival-coach

I vaguely remember stories of a Wainui junior coach who was a bit of a psycho. Wonder if this is the same guy.

Only got one side of the story, but if it proves accurate then ban him. No coach/ref at any level has the right abuse a player, and more so with junior players. To pick on a girl that way he should face criminal charges!

..It doesn't really say why it happened?

lol OK, I'll bite - give me ONE example of a time when it would be acceptable behaviour?

and lol @ her Dad 'asking him to stop'! Like you wouldn't just chin the f**ker!

"grabbed her by both arms and vigorously shook her and started shouting at her" and "did not take his hands off the girl till asked several times by Mr Jones and the girl's father"

Now it it was Grammar v Mt Albert and you were Kevin Fallon that would be found to be acceptable. But for an UNDER 13 game?

If it was my daughter I wouldn't be "asking" the coach.

"Sir, i must ask you to stop shaking my daughter. Sir? Sir, I'm afraid I really must insist. Sir? very well, you give me no choice, I'll have to ask again-please refrain from shaking my daughter."

I'm not saying it was acceptable. the guy could easily get locked up, assaulting a child. but i'm curious as to why he would go shake a girl? it just says what he did, but why the f**k would you do it!?Luis Garcia2010-08-04 15:07:55

Fair play.

He probably has some issues.

He lives in Wainui- Surely its reason enuff?

The bad press will do football well, with the front page headline.

Well said KP, top fellah!

I think we should take a leaf out of Palmerston North's book and ban all people from Wainui from staying in K-Town motels.

"Name and Shame" is the best medicine for such disgraceful conduct.

I have seen two this season, both out at Te Whea. One a Cap 1 game the other a St Pats derby game. Ref was applauded for taking positive action.  Physical assault is way too far and totally unacceptable. Cant ignore being grabbed and shaken.

Ugly parent syndrome is out of control over here. 

I think this rant is over the top - but yes I do know a certain (currently inactive) forum member who saw red on the weekend.

I saw a parent causing a scene, abusing a referee [another parent volunteering] at Newtown earlier this year before one of our senior games. I don't know which parent was from which team but I was embarrassed for everyone involved, mainly the kids. I don't know what the parents think they're achieving.

Agreed that adults need to act better in front of kids - but it's so hard trying to be a positive influence. I know whenever I am watching a game, or even in it, and you try to defend the refs actions, most people just think you're being a tit.

It's hard breaking a habit everyone has

Not much response from Wainui but from what I understand was the incident between the boy and girl happened at the end of the game in front of the Karori parents after the girl had been giving the boy grief all day. The Wainui coach had to run across the pitch to do the wrong thing about it. What were the Karori parents doing?

SportZone2010-08-05 07:40:13

I can only think of one 12 year old girl that it's OK for a grown man to have a fight with...

Good mate of mine coached an under 11 or 12 team (or 11th or 12th grade whatever it is called now).  He was about 25, told all of the parents at the beginning of the season that he was the only one allowed  to shout out to the players during the match.  If anyone shouted out to the players trying to give them directions, or to the ref, he'd sub their kid off.  Did the trick very well and they had a great season because the kids weren't constantly being shouted at byt three or four different people and getting confused.

The most amazing thing about this story is that nobody attacked Warwick Jones.

keeping an eye on their BMWs

Just young teens having a banter and loads of fun.

Maybe off topic here, but we started a bit of a supporters group with creative chants and no swearing whatsoever for the Nelson Suburbs, just a bit of fun. Just the usuals "she fell over!" "same old halswell always cheating" "we've got the beach, the beast and the suburbs" etc.. bringing the football atmosphere to a local game. and we've had threats from a guy (richmond player) that he'd smash us and after the game his players were coming to beat us up. Remember Richmond aren't even in the same league. their players turn up watch the game and just abuse us as fellow spectators for actually getting behind our team who are the only Nelson team in the Mainland league.

An example is we have a facebook page "Blue Fever!" and he started getting personal.. so we banned him from the page and then he left this on richmonds page which has results etc..

"Well surprise surprise the f**kin idiots have kicked me off their BLUE FEVER page! well all I can say is bring it on next Suburbs home game you f**kin Blue Illness muppets Im going to put your Drum up your arses you pathetic embarrasing little pansies and im picking there will be a few people around who would be keen to play those drums whilst they are up there "Blue Fever front Up Or f**k Off""


There's just always one incredibly aggressive adult that needs to take a back seat at local football. And with us just being teenagers it can be quite intimidating when a grown man gets very fired up and have a history of punching people on the pitch. Luis Garcia2010-08-05 01:08:14

To all you people out their who have read the Dominion Post today and are truely that NAIVE to believe what you read in the newspaper you all must know their are always two sides to every story. Before you people start making accusations about the club or the members please make sure you know the whole story. Their are fundamental inaccuracies in this report that we may take action on. Thank you

So why don't you let us in on them?

Coming in to this a bit late....and in no way condoning the alleged offence....

but why did it get to the Dom Post.  Surely the correct procedure was taken, by putting in a formal complaint to Capital Football.   Leave it there!  Don't wash dirty laundry in public, and if the press do get wind, "No Comment" should be the official response until the judicial process is complete.

very naive

Down here in Queenstown my under 14(12&13 yo's)team were playing Cromwell in the Regional competion, a while back, and the Ref(Cromwell Parent/Coach)sent our keeper off for an aciddental(but nasty) challenge on there striker in a one on one where the Striker had semi rounded our Keeper. Our Keeper and a few of our players(incl. me) argued/disagreed with the Ref and then the Ref physically pushed and pulled our Keeper off the field. as he was slowly walking off. But then, to add to the drama, as our reserve Keeper was putting on his gloves he allowed there player to take a sneaky penalty, then the Ref claimed that it was justice for the foul!! Even though the Cromwell players(a few mates of mine)claimed it was unfair as well. Absolutely shocking.