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Hats off to Mainland esp Sheree for organising all the Rep teams, including addition of the North Canterbury teams, for their strip/kit pick up and Team photos today.

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Run with military precision. Thumbs up!

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Glyn knows his job too, lets not forget him!

Shameless plug: M4 Photography! 

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Whatever happened with IFANZ?
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VimFuego wrote:
Whatever happened with IFANZ?

No Fanz

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Yes I realise all that, just wondering if there was any further information. 

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Results from Jack McKnight Football Festival Nelson (11s):

1st: Canterbury Grey

2nd: Otago Blue

3rd: Canterbury White

4th: Canterbury Red

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CS Lotto Tournament. No team this year from last two years finalists Nomads.

Coaches keen [all MPL winning players with coaching experience] turning up for trainings but few players.

When you add the three guest players still not enough for an eleven.

The club has twenty five or so registered players of the age grade. 

Another nail in the Nomads demise or just the way kids are if it's not Xbox.

Why would the Nomads clubs 13th A team winners of Div one and KO finalists default out of the final?

Reason because they are tired of playing and training.

What do these kids play for? Must be to become an EPL player and nothing else.

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TBF 2 sides pulled out off that comp Scottie but still IMO a bizarre decision.

Sorry to hear no Nomads at Lotto U19

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You sure about the U19 Scottie? I've got them down as entered...

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Lovely NTC photo on the Coastal page.

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Nomads confirmed as withdrawn from the Lotto tournament, boo.

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What teams have entered?

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I'll let you know as soon as we sort Nomads' replacement.
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Mainland junior Joe Bell named in NZ U17 team. Joe played his junior football at Ferrymead Bays, before representing Christ's College. Joe was a talented futsal player and part of the Mainland School of Football that preceded FTC. He was at APFA before it moved to Wellington (currently at Weenix).

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Black beat Red in 14's Dunedin this morning.

Final @ 1:00

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foal30 wrote:

Black beat Red in 14's Dunedin this morning.

Final @ 1:00

That'll be Blue & Red beat red. Nice to be loaned an alternative strip!

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How many clubs can provide 5-6 contacts plus a game a week for 11 months a year?

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10cc wrote:

foal30 wrote:

Black beat Red in 14's Dunedin this morning.

Final @ 1:00

That'll be Blue & Red beat red. Nice to be loaned an alternative strip!

Massive thank you to Stan the Man for the change of shirts! Legend! And for the record, Red beat Black. Then they went on to win the final on pens. Nail biter! Went to 9 penalties to decide it  
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well done Slushy me old sparring partner

I'm looking forward to final to today at Tullet

I hope the kid  that went away yesterday in the ambulance wasn't too serious

Some really good kids in the Canterbury teams 

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Final is 1:00 kickoff.

Hopefully a good tight match and no wind.

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Broonie wrote:

well done Slushy me old sparring partner

I'm looking forward to final to today at Tullet

I hope the kid  that went away yesterday in the ambulance wasn't too serious

Some really good kids in the Canterbury teams 

Cheers John. Two from two now! 

The young fellow got a bad whack in the face and suspected concussion I was told by folk closer to the action than I was. Unfortunate way to finish up the day.

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South Canterbury had a top tournament. Both their #7 (Cam) and #8 (Ben) are very nice players. 

Roll on 1:00

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11:50 QTown

13 semis

Nelson v Otago Blue. Central Otago v Canterbury Red

5/6 is C Black v Nth Canterbury.  Which is hopefully a better game than the 15's version yesterday.

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...and Nelson U12s boys win back to back titles with a win in Blenheim with Otago second.  Cheers Marlborough footy folk for well run tourny, with great pitches too.

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13's Otago beat Canterbury 1-0

15's Black over Red 2-1

Red deserved a win wearing those Coastal shirts I feel...

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A few thoughts from the Blenheim Tournament:

1. Great venue, great pitches and really well run tournament. Thank you to the organisers;

2. What is it about some coaches? This is a tournament for kids of 11/12 and yet you'd think that this was life or death for some coaches. Quite how one certain coach can justify the rants at his players and the liberal use of "fudge' is beyond me...time to get a life methinks.

3. Nelson Bays are a great side to watch play. Would have been interesting had the Canterbury teams been selected on ability and not been simply randomly assigned to one of the 3 sides; however I guess it makes for a better tournament all round. The Nelson No.2 at the back is a fine player.

4. Team of the Tournament - North Canterbury. Waimak has, as a club, for one reason or another has let their region down. The boys selected for North Canterbury battled and battled - yeah they came last but they had a ball and tried to the end. Their parents and coaches were a credit to their region. Back in the 1970's, one year no rugby team would go to Dublin to play the Irish due to the Troubles, aside from the English who when they did got thoroughly trounced, but the words of the captain after the game should be considered by Waimak: "We may be crap, but at least we turn up".

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shushy6 wrote:

10cc wrote:

foal30 wrote:

Black beat Red in 14's Dunedin this morning.

Final @ 1:00

That'll be Blue & Red beat red. Nice to be loaned an alternative strip!

Massive thank you to Stan the Man for the change of shirts! Legend! And for the record, Red beat Black. Then they went on to win the final on pens. Nail biter! Went to 9 penalties to decide it  

Same 'legend' you critised on this forum for supposed biased refereeing. Did you apologise before or after, or did you not know it was the same bloke? Man & Legend alright!

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Why would I apologise? It was more than a year ago wasn't it? I guess both he, and I, had forgotten about it. Probably because I am hysterical, which makes it hard to remember things. Great that you are here to keep that pot boiling though. 

Well done you.  

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"4. Team of the Tournament - North Canterbury. Waimak has, as a club, for one reason or another has let their region down. The boys selected for North Canterbury battled and battled - yeah they came last but they had a ball and tried to the end. Their parents and coaches were a credit to their region. Back in the 1970's, one year no rugby team would go to Dublin to play the Irish due to the Troubles, aside from the English who when they did got thoroughly trounced, but the words of the captain after the game should be considered by Waimak: "We may be crap, but at least we turn up"."

Socrates you need to get your facts right. Up until 2014 Waimak ran North Canterbury football very successfully. They provided the administration, funding, coaches, managers and most of the players. North Canterbury players usually attended tournaments at no or very low cost. Coggan's Mainland then decided that Waimak could not run North Cantebury football and the teams were not even allowed to play in Waimak strips. Mainland has since taken over NC football so what you see is their product not Waimaks. The players (or their parents) now pay hundreds of dollars for the pleasure.  

To blame Waimak for the demise of North Canterbury football is just nonsensical. It is the individual's choice whether to play for, coach or manage a rep team. The club has no say. Would you blame FC2011, Coastal or Cash Tech for our regions failure to produce NZ internationals. I don't think so.

Hey maybe we should point the finger at Hurunui Rangers for our most recent World Cup failure.    

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I don't see how my intrinsic facts are wrong at all.

I think you confuse club football with rep football; the two are separate. It stands to reason that they shouldn't wear a Waimak club strip, it is a rep tournament not a club tournament. Amberley kids want to play for their region and not some pseudo Waimak outfit. The running of the rep side should be independent of the clubs of the region, not the fiefdom of one single club. It appears to me that Selwyn and Mid Canterbury run successful rep teams that have differing kits, even though their pool of players would seem to come from one club; why should North Canterbury be any different?

Yes it is an individual's choice whether to do certain things, however I think you are being disingenuous if you do not accept that the attitude of the Club is the major factor in what those parents, coaches etc. will do.

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Just jumping on the Nth Canty/Waimak bandwagon, is it true the Nth Canty team only played with 8 players in the 15's game as they wanted to rest their team for the semifinal? Only to get pumped 10 nil?  Seems a bit random...

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i waited a while to reply to you previous post. well done Gaffa for using facts unlike others. how did waimak let down the under 12 team/ there was not any other options for players to participate in other tournaments, but parents and players themselves decided to not participate,. the waimak coaches nominated and many players trialed then pulled out without any advice from the club. they encouraged players to participate. sadly the responce should be to the parents who decided that little Johnny was to good for the team selected. all this attack on waimak seems a conscientious move to destabalise and image deteriate the club image (you guys must be jealous of our numbers perhaps).  the truth is all coaches and selectors were appointed by Mainland and team selections were also approved by them and the FDO who attended the trial process, direct you attention to the product perhaps.

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socrates11 wrote:

I don't see how my intrinsic facts are wrong at all.

I think you confuse club football with rep football; the two are separate. It stands to reason that they shouldn't wear a Waimak club strip, it is a rep tournament not a club tournament. Amberley kids want to play for their region and not some pseudo Waimak outfit. The running of the rep side should be independent of the clubs of the region, not the fiefdom of one single club. It appears to me that Selwyn and Mid Canterbury run successful rep teams that have differing kits, even though their pool of players would seem to come from one club; why should North Canterbury be any different?

Yes it is an individual's choice whether to do certain things, however I think you are being disingenuous if you do not accept that the attitude of the Club is the major factor in what those parents, coaches etc. will do.

hmm are you contradicting yourself here Socrates. Waimak ran north Canterbury without any support from amberley or oxford. Said amberley players did not like playing in a pseudo Waimak team in black shirts so cried foul. Mainland asked Waimak to back out and for a seperate committee to be set up like Selwyn and mid Canterbury. And who turned up??? Waimak parents for the most part! You want a neutral set up but not to have to work on it. So don't blame Waimak for the product you now have.  The Waimak club does as much for North Canterbury as FcTwenty or CashTech do for Canterbury. Why do you expect Waimak to do more?? You wanted them to do less a couple of years ago. Make your mind up!!

North Canterbury has on average one team in div one to draw players from so they will always struggle at tournaments. Maybe some parents saw the price difference from this year to two years ago and thought a hiding at that price isn't worth it!! It's the parents and players choosing here, not the club.  Feel free to bag clubs like Waimak but at least they are proactively doing stuff for their kids. Skill Centres are well supported, there is private provider training, summer programs, schools tournaments,kids in ftc and NTC,  and 7 teams went to club tournaments in the North Island (two winning, two thirds). Seems to me the club attitude is pretty focused and forward thinking.

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I'm intrigued on this cost thing. The cost to get to Blenheim was pretty low and in the scheme of things. Is it really that much cheaper to head to the North Island, that to me is totally counter intuitive. I spoke to a number of people in Blenheim who indicated that the issue was Waimak as a club pulling players. Clearly there is an alternative viewpoint from Waimak, as expressed here. I guess in life you have the entrenched views and then find the truth is somewhere in the middle.

It's sad that these South Island Rep tournaments are set up and run so well, but that alternative club competitions clash. Smaller regions will generally not win these things, however the chance to represent your region as opposed to your club, which you do each season, is a great fillip for kids. I personally having nothing but admiration for the parents, children and coaches of the North Canterbury side. It is a truism, but there are more important things than winning and North Canterbury demonstrated that in spades.

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i would love to hear the name of one player "pulled by waimak" from the 12's, dont think you will find one as the clubs policy is to get as many players to tournaments as possible. yes involved in waimak, but also had a child in North Canterbury and the experience was enjoyed but the players who had been to nationals all wished the went there. when we only play each other in the south island we will be left behind. Waimak has a great female developement, but when our males head north they recognise how far behind auckland we are. Clubs in mainland need to expose there players to the north island teams at a young age so the players can realise their development against the best. sorry but after been to auckland twice with a side who had not been beating for 2 years locally it was a reality check. butr the best players are now working hard to get up to them.

Stop bagging our club and look inside your own.

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socrates11 wrote:

I'm intrigued on this cost thing. The cost to get to Blenheim was pretty low and in the scheme of things. Is it really that much cheaper to head to the North Island, that to me is totally counter intuitive. I spoke to a number of people in Blenheim who indicated that the issue was Waimak as a club pulling players. Clearly there is an alternative viewpoint from Waimak, as expressed here. I guess in life you have the entrenched views and then find the truth is somewhere in the middle.

It's sad that these South Island Rep tournaments are set up and run so well, but that alternative club competitions clash. Smaller regions will generally not win these things, however the chance to represent your region as opposed to your club, which you do each season, is a great fillip for kids. I personally having nothing but admiration for the parents, children and coaches of the North Canterbury side. It is a truism, but there are more important things than winning and North Canterbury demonstrated that in spades.

missing facts again! The North Canterbury teams that managed to find coaches and have trials did not have clashes with any club tournaments Waimak attended. There was no 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th grade boys club tournaments.  So your tournaments clashing argument is just not true. The only possible clashes were for girls but North Canterbury could only get a 17th grade coach, so there were no 12th or 14th grade girls teams. If North Canterbury wanted to be represented at these tournaments wouldn't the neutral committee have sorted this? 
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BTW the cost for my child to attend the North Island tournament this year was $75

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VimFuego wrote:

Just jumping on the Nth Canty/Waimak bandwagon, is it true the Nth Canty team only played with 8 players in the 15's game as they wanted to rest their team for the semifinal? Only to get pumped 10 nil?  Seems a bit random...

perhaps that is a Waimak policy??!

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