Even at the threat of legal action? I'm not convinced - coastal spirit vs burnside debate in 2007? springs to mind
Mainland Premier League (Part 1)
Even at the threat of legal action? I'm not convinced - coastal spirit vs burnside debate in 2007? springs to mind
A sad day for football. How'd it end up for Burnside anyways?
This shark just got real.
The 7 day rule is rubbish anyways. If someone is illegal then what does it matter if it was 8 days ago? And I don't know all this wasn't spotted by Mainland anyways. For the important leagues (WPL MPL DIV1) surely cards are checked by them to see players are legal. it doesn't have to be every person on the card studied, I'm sure they'll have a master list and it would only be any extra names to look at.
Good drama to watch on here tho, keep it up.
Good call Vim yes if the cards were checked weekly and acted on if required then any brenches would be dealt with straight away. Does seem strange that looks like another club have to make a complaint rather than Mainland enforcing their own rules.
I'd be very surprised if anyone on the $800,000 payroll has it in their job description to go through team cards from x no. of teams every Monday morning!
Anyone at FCetc and Bays today? Who coached FC?
Was not at the game but Tony Gumley was the FC coach today.
So, Tseto is gone? From first team duties only? Can anyone confirm?
Ronaldoknow in the east corner vs Ray Hicks in the west, north, anywhere but the east corner...
Hicks first serve:
Why not? Not that that was what I was trying to do, just putting some balance into unwarranted criticism of one of the clubs most affected by the earthquakes. If you are going to post ill informed comments and lame accusations go for it, I shall try and remain sensitive to your feelings - had to laugh at that, been a long time since I've been labelled overly sensitive :)
Oh and don't try and take some kind of moral high ground with your "welcome to the east" comment: it seems like you're very sensitive to the fact that your club provided a crap pitch that did a disservice to BOTH teams...[/quote]
Ronaldoknow returns with a backhand down the line:
Er, maintenance and preparation of playing fields at Cuthbert's Green is the responsibility of Christchurch City Council?
Even at the threat of legal action? I'm not convinced - coastal spirit vs burnside debate in 2007? springs to mind
Either that protest was lodged within 7 days or the rule was brought in subsequently, not sure which but Burnside acted within the rules. Even though Rangers were acting in good faith by not seeking an international transfer based on the information the player himself provided, Mainland (who had also been asked by Rangers to check the players eligibility then gave the green light!) still enforced the rule once Burnside provided evidence to the contrary. Mainland are never in the wrong and there is no such thing as an innocent mistake. Save your money and flag the lawyers, you'll just be tipping thousands down the toilet. Varsities need to take any penalty on the chin then carry on and win the league.
Ronaldoknow in the east corner vs Ray Hicks in the west, north, anywhere but the east corner...
Hicks first serve:
Why not? Not that that was what I was trying to do, just putting some balance into unwarranted criticism of one of the clubs most affected by the earthquakes. If you are going to post ill informed comments and lame accusations go for it, I shall try and remain sensitive to your feelings - had to laugh at that, been a long time since I've been labelled overly sensitive :)
Oh and don't try and take some kind of moral high ground with your "welcome to the east" comment: it seems like you're very sensitive to the fact that your club provided a crap pitch that did a disservice to BOTH teams...[/quote]
Ronaldoknow returns with a backhand down the line:
Er, maintenance and preparation of playing fields at Cuthbert's Green is the responsibility of Christchurch City Council?
Yep. Contracted to City Care.
From what I understand there will be no penalties for University in terms of points deductions, this can't be done due to the 7 day ruling.. Other clubs, apparently led by ChCh United are trying for this to happen, but it simply wont.. Not sure if there can be a financial penalty either??
DANNYGATE UPDATE:
Jordan Halligan - who transferred to Nomads from Cashmere a couple of weeks ago - is now seeking a transfer back to Cashmere!
DANNYGATE UPDATE:
Jordan Halligan - who transferred to Nomads from Cashmere a couple of weeks ago - is now seeking a transfer back to Cashmere!
Has he been in the starting eleven at Nomads?
Why? Is that a pre-requisite of Jordan playing at a club? #justjoking
seems a bit strange.
where is the loyality to the club?
Anyone at FCetc and Bays today? Who coached FC?
Was not at the game but Tony Gumley was the FC coach today.
So, Tseto is gone? From first team duties only? Can anyone confirm?
SE, (this is gossip) I am fairly sure he got APFA role.
this may (or may not) have caused issues with his club
similar scenario has happened elsewhere, some clubs have been able to work something out to keep their best coaches, others are less flexible/fortunate
scenario for me is that best coaches going to the program that involves the most $ outlay from participants, so again we have financial stratification occurring in junior sports. I know football is not tennis but I can see (maybe I'm an alarmist) exactly the same situation occurring where the $ wins.
Junior Ginger played a full game for Nomads against Coastal in the English Cup, not sure on the rest.
Here is today's press article on the Varsities/FC2011 dramarama https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/sport/club-sport/8689935/Universities-disqualified-from-Chatham-Cup
Why? Is that a pre-requisite of Jordan playing at a club? #justjoking
In some cases seem some young players what guaranteed starts or jump ship, not willing to spend time warming the pine.
I hear that Korouch Monsef is back at Mainland as Mike Bono's replacement.
From what I understand there will be no penalties for University in terms of points deductions, this can't be done due to the 7 day ruling.. Other clubs, apparently led by ChCh United are trying for this to happen, but it simply wont.. Not sure if there can be a financial penalty either??
Can anyone advise if any club has formally lodged a complaint about University.
I hear that Korouch Monsef is back at Mainland as Mike Bono's replacement.
Confirmed by an e-mailed press release through Alan Walker this afternoon. Working in the North west and out to Darfield, Amberley presenting Whole of Football to clubs and schools. Not quite the coach development role he was looking for?
Anyone at FCetc and Bays today? Who coached FC?
Was not at the game but Tony Gumley was the FC coach today.
So, Tseto is gone? From first team duties only? Can anyone confirm?
SE, (this is gossip) I am fairly sure he got APFA role.
this may (or may not) have caused issues with his club
similar scenario has happened elsewhere, some clubs have been able to work something out to keep their best coaches, others are less flexible/fortunate
scenario for me is that best coaches going to the program that involves the most $ outlay from participants, so again we have financial stratification occurring in junior sports. I know football is not tennis but I can see (maybe I'm an alarmist) exactly the same situation occurring where the $ wins.
APFA are short of coaches and I know some parents aren't happy with the setup at the moment considering the fees they are paying.
I hear that Korouch Monsef is back at Mainland as Mike Bono's replacement.
Confirmed by an e-mailed press release through Alan Walker this afternoon. Working in the North west and out to Darfield, Amberley presenting Whole of Football to clubs and schools. Not quite the coach development role he was looking for?
Sure, but there aren't too many full time jobs in football in this wee village
APFA are short of coaches and I know some parents aren't happy with the setup at the moment considering the fees they are paying.
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I heard that one of the groups ( I think they split them older/younger) was being coached by a young English lass who plays for Halswell first team. Nice enough but not a lot of coaching experience. Ivanov at least has plenty of offshore coaching experience and has been around the local scene long enough to understand the situation here. Well qualified to do the job I'd imagine. Essentially he would be replacing Jess Ibrom who went to USA! USA! USA!
Form late Friday's Nelson Mail - Story on Ryan Stewart aka "Skippy"
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/sport/8684980/Skippy-in-high-spirits-for-Suburbs
scenario for me is that best coaches going to the program that involves the most $ outlay from participants, so again we have financial stratification occurring in junior sports. I know football is not tennis but I can see (maybe I'm an alarmist) exactly the same situation occurring where the $ wins.
I admire your socialist idealism Foal (truly). However, unless a sport is serious about ploughing really massive dollars into unearthing the best talent and then doing the humungous amount of work to create the best environment to nurture that talent (say for 5-10 years based on 10,000 hours principle), then the best talent - that can afford it -will go wherever that environment exists. NZ clubs and federation and sport not able to provide that at present so providers stepping in, ie "market forces" (remember that show?)
As NZ is so small financially we as a sport don't have the money to offer great football talent with no money the opportunities they deserve. Rugby can do it because we are the best in a small handful of OECD rich countries that play the sport and have the media/corporate/sponsorship backing to sustain the NZRFU and its franchises. Local club rugby is clucked.
If you are a big rich country then you can create those environments for talent that can't afford it. Not here. Here we do the best we can, but in no way is it ideal.
I hear that Korouch Monsef is back at Mainland as Mike Bono's replacement.
Confirmed by an e-mailed press release through Alan Walker this afternoon. Working in the North west and out to Darfield, Amberley presenting Whole of Football to clubs and schools. Not quite the coach development role he was looking for?
Sure, but there aren't too many full time jobs in football in this wee village
That is true. Shame they couldn't offer him a full time coach development role though. One area that is truly lacking in the code and a hard one for clubs to tackle. And a role that would give the greatest short term results imo.
APFA are short of coaches and I know some parents aren't happy with the setup at the moment considering the fees they are paying.
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I heard that one of the groups ( I think they split them older/younger) was being coached by a young English lass who plays for Halswell first team. Nice enough but not a lot of coaching experience. Ivanov at least has plenty of offshore coaching experience and has been around the local scene long enough to understand the situation here. Well qualified to do the job I'd imagine. Essentially he would be replacing Jess Ibrom who went to USA! USA! USA!
Would hope for Tetso and FC's sake he'd carefully consider a move to APFA. Very high staff turnover, most without a happy ending.
To combine all the last few comments in one succinct sentence, "in order to get happy endings, make sure you pay the extra dollars"
To combine all the last few comments in one succinct sentence, "in order to get happy endings, make sure you pay the extra dollars"
Or spend the extra dollars on sueing everyone that goes through the place.
Roseanne's ex husband and comedian Tom Arnold is an international transfer to Christchurch United.
They must be getting desperate.
To combine all the last few comments in one succinct sentence, "in order to get happy endings, make sure you pay the extra dollars"
Or spend the extra dollars on sueing everyone that goes through the place.
Or this...in an ideal world the sport would provide; in reality, at least in this part of the world, we have to pay.
To combine all the last few comments in one succinct sentence, "in order to get happy endings, make sure you pay the extra dollars"
Or spend the extra dollars on sueing everyone that goes through the place.
Or this...in an ideal world the sport would provide; in reality, at least in this part of the world, we have to pay.
Any idea how much both kids & seniors pay in UK & Europe? Plenty more than in NZ, and that is just club football without attending any private provider academy. (But then they do get photo ID, so governing body can keep track of player eligibility .....think that's the last thing we'd want to have to start spending money on !!) More kids in the game by keeping costs down. Unfortunately "user pays" for anything above that, but that's reality. Shouldn't be the reason for denying opportunity to those that are talented and can afford it.
Roseanne's ex husband and comedian Tom Arnold is an international transfer to Christchurch United.
They must be getting desperate.
They've always been a bit of a joke :)
Form late Friday's Nelson Mail - Story on Ryan Stewart aka "Skippy"
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/sport/8684980/Skippy-in-high-spirits-for-Suburbs
Aah,Skippy, had me choking up there a bit ........ had to go and find my favourite photo of the fella .........
Even at the threat of legal action? I'm not convinced - coastal spirit vs burnside debate in 2007? springs to mind
Gings I am pretty sure that case prompted the introduction of the 7 day rule. And if I remember correctly Rangers took legal action in that instance to defend the use of an illegal player only to lose at NZ Football level and at the CAS.
Would be interesting to see how a club would get on this time round but I suspect the same result would occur.
This shark just got real.
The 7 day rule is rubbish anyways. If someone is illegal then what does it matter if it was 8 days ago? And I don't know all this wasn't spotted by Mainland anyways. For the important leagues (WPL MPL DIV1) surely cards are checked by them to see players are legal. it doesn't have to be every person on the card studied, I'm sure they'll have a master list and it would only be any extra names to look at.
Good drama to watch on here tho, keep it up.
Good call Vim yes if the cards were checked weekly and acted on if required then any brenches would be dealt with straight away. Does seem strange that looks like another club have to make a complaint rather than Mainland enforcing their own rules.
In the good old days of CFA this task was undertaken by volunteers, and all cards were checked (Seniors and Juniors)! Interesting that Mainland with a payroll of $800,000 p.a. can't check any.
Ronaldoknow in the east corner vs Ray Hicks in the west, north, anywhere but the east corner...
Hicks first serve:
Why not? Not that that was what I was trying to do, just putting some balance into unwarranted criticism of one of the clubs most affected by the earthquakes. If you are going to post ill informed comments and lame accusations go for it, I shall try and remain sensitive to your feelings - had to laugh at that, been a long time since I've been labelled overly sensitive :)
Oh and don't try and take some kind of moral high ground with your "welcome to the east" comment: it seems like you're very sensitive to the fact that your club provided a crap pitch that did a disservice to BOTH teams...[/quote]
Ronaldoknow returns with a backhand down the line:
Looks like a TKO to Ron in the red corner!
This shark just got real.
The 7 day rule is rubbish anyways. If someone is illegal then what does it matter if it was 8 days ago? And I don't know all this wasn't spotted by Mainland anyways. For the important leagues (WPL MPL DIV1) surely cards are checked by them to see players are legal. it doesn't have to be every person on the card studied, I'm sure they'll have a master list and it would only be any extra names to look at.
Good drama to watch on here tho, keep it up.
Good call Vim yes if the cards were checked weekly and acted on if required then any brenches would be dealt with straight away. Does seem strange that looks like another club have to make a complaint rather than Mainland enforcing their own rules.
In the good old days of CFA this task was undertaken by volunteers, and all cards were checked (Seniors and Juniors)! Interesting that Mainland with a payroll of $800,000 p.a. can't check any.
Sorry to quote myself guys but just had a thought -
why don't the referees check the cards on a Monday? They surely have access to the Mainland player database and they love enforcing the rules. Could be another income stream for them apart from the $35 per game clubs are paying?
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Aah,Skippy, had me choking up there a bit ........ had to go and find my favourite photo of the fella .........
Looks like he has settled in to Nelson very well.
On a roll.
Thinking about the 7 day rule it is ridiculous, for one obvious reason - rival clubs don't have access to another teams card before, during or after the game so how are they supposed to protest an illegal player? Especially as the body that administers the game doesn't check the cards either? Ridiculous, are we relying on third party train spotters then? Reminds me of the game a couple of years ago where Coastal and Halswell were potted for each playing an under 16 player without written consent having been forwarded to Mainland by the parents. Both teams were awarded a 3-0 loss and who dobbed them in? A Mainland employee who happened to watch the game. $800,000 wage bill and farce is all we get? Tui billboard coming right up.
On a roll.
Thinking about the 7 day rule it is ridiculous, for one obvious reason - rival clubs don't have access to another teams card before, during or after the game so how are they supposed to protest an illegal player? Especially as the body that administers the game doesn't check the cards either? Ridiculous, are we relying on third party train spotters then? Reminds me of the game a couple of years ago where Coastal and Halswell were potted for each playing an under 16 player without written consent having been forwarded to Mainland by the parents. Both teams were awarded a 3-0 loss and who dobbed them in? A Mainland employee who happened to watch the game. $800,000 wage bill and farce is all we get? Tui billboard coming right up.
Train spotters or those the hang about on this forum.