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AllWhites82 wrote:


In tonight English Cup game Cashmere Technical leading Amberley 6 nil late in the game.  

Finished 8 nil.

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Ronaldoknow wrote:

Hmmmmmmm, interesting. Big call at this stage of the season.



Massive news! Does this mean the boots have been hung up for the season? otherwise who/when/where was the last player-coach in MPL?
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Ronaldoknow wrote:

Hmmmmmmm, interesting. Big call at this stage of the season.



Massive news! Does this mean the boots have been hung up for the season? otherwise who/when/where was the last player-coach in MPL?

Surely he won't be hanging up the boots, considering they were golden last year.
AW82 will be the man with the stats, but I bet there is no record of two player coaches in the MPL with the chance of Stu Bola also doing both roles on Satdy for FCDiv1.
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Is Gareth allowed to coach another team? I thought if you were coaching a Canterbury United team you couldn't coach at club level? Maybe as its the womens team he coaches all is ok?

I'm sure someone on here will know better than me.
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Is Gareth allowed to coach another team? I thought if you were coaching a Canterbury United team you couldn't coach at club level? Maybe as its the womens team he coaches all is ok?

I'm sure someone on here will know better than me.

the Pride aren't a Canterbury United team, they're run by Mainland Football.

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Took awhile for the official news to break. 

So this has been in the wind a wee while AW?
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Noticed this in Mainland's #1 monthly spin:

2014 will almost certainly see the introduction of compulsory coach education at specific junior, youth and senior levels.  Clubs will likely have until end June 2014 to have ensured club coaches have completed relevant level 1 junior, youth and senior qualifications.

Assume all clubs will be reviewing all coaches/potential coaches with this in mind.

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Noticed this in Mainland's #1 monthly spin:

2014 will almost certainly see the introduction of compulsory coach education at specific junior, youth and senior levels.  Clubs will likely have until end June 2014 to have ensured club coaches have completed relevant level 1 junior, youth and senior qualifications.

Assume all clubs will be reviewing all coaches/potential coaches with this in mind.

Was this not on the cards for awhile but was put on the back burner due to the quakes.  

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Ronaldoknow wrote:
AllWhites82 wrote:

Took awhile for the official news to break. 

So this has been in the wind a wee while AW?

I believe it had been simmering away for the last week or two.

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Noticed this in Mainland's #1 monthly spin:

2014 will almost certainly see the introduction of compulsory coach education at specific junior, youth and senior levels.  Clubs will likely have until end June 2014 to have ensured club coaches have completed relevant level 1 junior, youth and senior qualifications.

Assume all clubs will be reviewing all coaches/potential coaches with this in mind.


not before time
be good if clubs can get onboard with the ref tickets too. 
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Claps named in NZ 'A' side:

New Zealand ‘A’ v JordanNorth Harbour Stadium, Auckland
Tuesday, June 4
Kickoff: 7.30pm

New Zealand ‘A’: 1-Scott BASALAJ, 2-Andrew DURANTE, 3-Aaron SCOTT, 4-Tim MYERS, 6-Ian HOGG, 7-Cameron HOWIESON, 8-Cameron LINDSAY, 9-Luke ROWE, 10-Aaron CLAPHAM, 11-Jake BUTLER, 12-Jacob SPOONLEY (gk), 14-Jeremy CHRISTIE, 15-Ivan VICELICH, 16-Louis FENTON, 17-Tyler BOYD, 18-James MUSA
Coach: Neil EMBLEN


 

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AllWhites82 wrote:


Claps named in NZ 'A' side:

New Zealand ‘A’ v JordanNorth Harbour Stadium, Auckland
Tuesday, June 4
Kickoff: 7.30pm

New Zealand ‘A’: 1-Scott BASALAJ, 2-Andrew DURANTE, 3-Aaron SCOTT, 4-Tim MYERS, 6-Ian HOGG, 7-Cameron HOWIESON, 8-Cameron LINDSAY, 9-Luke ROWE, 10-Aaron CLAPHAM, 11-Jake BUTLER, 12-Jacob SPOONLEY (gk), 14-Jeremy CHRISTIE, 15-Ivan VICELICH, 16-Louis FENTON, 17-Tyler BOYD, 18-James MUSA
Coach: Neil EMBLEN

No Siggy :(
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Ronaldoknow wrote:
AllWhites82 wrote:


Claps named in NZ 'A' side:

New Zealand ‘A’ v JordanNorth Harbour Stadium, Auckland
Tuesday, June 4
Kickoff: 7.30pm

New Zealand ‘A’: 1-Scott BASALAJ, 2-Andrew DURANTE, 3-Aaron SCOTT, 4-Tim MYERS, 6-Ian HOGG, 7-Cameron HOWIESON, 8-Cameron LINDSAY, 9-Luke ROWE, 10-Aaron CLAPHAM, 11-Jake BUTLER, 12-Jacob SPOONLEY (gk), 14-Jeremy CHRISTIE, 15-Ivan VICELICH, 16-Louis FENTON, 17-Tyler BOYD, 18-James MUSA
Coach: Neil EMBLEN

No Siggy :(


Unsure of timing but heard he was about to become a dad again.
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I hear another MPL coach has gone. Was he pushed or did he walk?

Is there another protest in the wind?

All these question and not halfway through the season.

 


Further to AW82's gossip spreading I have heard through the grapevine the protest is from Bays regarding Nelson's overseas players.  Not even sure on the rules regarding this but time will tell. 
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Playing unregistered players, overseas players who may not have been cleared. Beyond honest mistakes, it's all about gaining advantage to win. But what about the elephant in the 6 yard box - what, exactly, are the rules concerning player payments in an amateur league? Can anyone enlighten me?

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Ha, post from 2 days ago on Central league thread...


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There will always be a way around it given the admin issues etc.

I honestly don't feel there are many if any players worth paying for in the MPL - no club fee and some kit is fair enough, but a few hundy a game as rumoured about some players? thats crazy!

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Lots of junior games this week are friendlies

this includes you Gings. 

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Playing unregistered players, overseas players who may not have been cleared. Beyond honest mistakes, it's all about gaining advantage to win. But what about the elephant in the 6 yard box - what, exactly, are the rules concerning player payments in an amateur league? Can anyone enlighten me?

Why pay anyone is the question that should be asked? Must piss some other players off who show up week in week out for training and games who do not get a cent.  

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AllWhites82 wrote:

Playing unregistered players, overseas players who may not have been cleared. Beyond honest mistakes, it's all about gaining advantage to win. But what about the elephant in the 6 yard box - what, exactly, are the rules concerning player payments in an amateur league? Can anyone enlighten me?

Hope this help Regulation 5 should cover all the information you need. All comes down to the term "expenses".

https://www.mainlandfootball.co.nz/uploads/media/Reg_5_-_Status_of_Players.pdf

 

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AllWhites82 wrote:

Playing unregistered players, overseas players who may not have been cleared. Beyond honest mistakes, it's all about gaining advantage to win. But what about the elephant in the 6 yard box - what, exactly, are the rules concerning player payments in an amateur league? Can anyone enlighten me?

Sorry deleted as double posting

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VimFuego wrote:
AllWhites82 wrote:


I hear another MPL coach has gone. Was he pushed or did he walk?

Is there another protest in the wind?

All these question and not halfway through the season.

 


Further to AW82's gossip spreading I have heard through the grapevine the protest is from Bays regarding Nelson's overseas players.  Not even sure on the rules regarding this but time will tell. 

Just because you have played overseas does not mean you are an "import" in some cases you can play without needing an international clearance -  I can think of at lease five players playing in the MPL currently that this applies to.

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AllWhites82 wrote:
[quote=VimFuego][quote=AllWhites82]


I hear another MPL coach has gone. Was he pushed or did he walk?

Is there another protest in the wind?

All these question and not halfway through the season.

 

 

Forgot to add if you do have and International Clearance, in some cases does not mean you are counted as an import either.

 

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Thanks AW. Would an example of that be local lads who might be studying at/playing for US colleges?

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Thanks AW. Would an example of that be local lads who might be studying at/playing for US colleges?

Yes in the case were a clearance is not required, as clearance not required going the other away either. 

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Hand the MPL back to the clubs, then they can reach an agreement on what is acceptable ( if anything) as a player payment. And if your club doesn't agree with the majority, tough, you're not invited to participate, end of story.

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Hand the MPL back to the clubs, then they can reach an agreement on what is acceptable ( if anything) as a player payment. And if your club doesn't agree with the majority, tough, you're not invited to participate, end of story.

But surely as the clubs are the Mainland Football Federation - they (the clubs) are in control. Maybe time to stand together, work together and take control.

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AllWhites82 wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Hand the MPL back to the clubs, then they can reach an agreement on what is acceptable ( if anything) as a player payment. And if your club doesn't agree with the majority, tough, you're not invited to participate, end of story.

But surely as the clubs are the Mainland Football Federation - they (the clubs) are in control. Maybe time to stand together, work together and take control.

The only way to get the clubs to work together is for them to sit around the table and nut it out between them. The only way it will work is if it is in the clubs best interests. Mainland consult and then dictate, they are the one's holding the game back here. Will they have the courage to do it? I doubt it. Your assumption that the clubs have control through Mainland is correct, the problem is their are far too many mediocre clubs, everything is dumbed down to meet their needs.
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Ronaldoknow wrote:
AllWhites82 wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Hand the MPL back to the clubs, then they can reach an agreement on what is acceptable ( if anything) as a player payment. And if your club doesn't agree with the majority, tough, you're not invited to participate, end of story.

But surely as the clubs are the Mainland Football Federation - they (the clubs) are in control. Maybe time to stand together, work together and take control.

The only way to get the clubs to work together is for them to sit around the table and nut it out between them. The only way it will work is if it is in the clubs best interests. Mainland consult and then dictate, they are the one's holding the game back here. Will they have the courage to do it? I doubt it. Your assumption that the clubs have control through Mainland is correct, the problem is their are far too many mediocre clubs, everything is dumbed down to meet their needs.


Maybe time for a club forum then. 
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Happy birthday Western AFC - 100 not out, not many clubs can say that. Enjoy the weekend both on and off the park.

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Ronaldoknow wrote:

The only way to get the clubs to work together is for them to sit around the table and nut it out between them. The only way it will work is if it is in the clubs best interests. Mainland consult and then dictate, they are the one's holding the game back here. Will they have the courage to do it? I doubt it. Your assumption that the clubs have control through Mainland is correct, the problem is their are far too many mediocre clubs, everything is dumbed down to meet their needs.


Each club has very different ambitions,  resources and challenges. Therein lies the problem. As to the club forum, that process is being "managed" via Mainland's individual meetings with the clubs. (Any feedback on those by the way?). At some point Mainland will have to aggregate that feedback, but I hope they do realise , see and support vastly different club ambitions.
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AllWhites82 wrote:

Happy birthday Western AFC - 100 not out, not many clubs can say that. Enjoy the weekend both on and off the park.

Yes great effort Western, you have been on your knees a few times but keep bouncing back, well done, enjoy the weekend.
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Thanks AW. Would an example of that be local lads who might be studying at/playing for US colleges?

Yes in the case were a clearance is not required, as clearance not required going the other away either. 

So how does that work?
Here you have to be dual registered to play for a school and a club (not sure how that works with Boys High who still maintain they are a club), yet you can go to the States and play college football without transferring?
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Will be intrigued to hear result of tonight's Div 1 game Chch Utd vs University. Any news on their appeal? Pity i'm working otherwise would have been good to go watch.
Also must say congrats to Western on 100 years as a club in Chch. I remember playing for them as a boy, lots of fun and good teams too.

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From Mainland Website:

ASB NATIONAL YOUTH LEAGUE (NYL) HEAD COACH

31.05.13

The Board of Canterbury United hereby seeks interested persons to apply for the position of Head Coach, Canterbury United Youth team (u20), participating in the ASB Youth League.

The ASB Youth League is played from early January until mid March and is preceded by a comprehensive pre season programme commencing in late November . Canterbury United has an excellent history of success in the ASB Youth League having won the title twice in the past five years. 

The Board of Canterbury United is committed to ensuring the continuation of this success as well as providing outstanding development opportunities for youth players to assist them to reach their full potential. This position will be contracted for two seasons (until 31 March 2015)  but will be subject to a 2014 season end review, held in April 2014.

Primary Head Coach responsibilities include but are not limited to:  

  • Identifying and selecting (with two other selectors) a squad for pre season and ASB NYL season
  • Through a combination of experience and relevant coach qualifications, provide outstanding coaching opportunities and planned training programmes for youth players
  • Promote youth players into senior Canterbury United environment .
  • Regularly liaise with ASB Premiership Head Coach on  senior team requirements  
  • Set and maintain high standards of expectation of player on and off field performance.   

Expressions of interest along with appropriate CV should be made to:  
Roger Georgieff
Canterbury United Chairman
[email protected]  

Applications close 4pm  Tuesday 11 June  with interviews to be held that same week.

Click here for the Head Coach Job Description.

 

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English Cup Draw 1/4 Final draw out:

All games at ASB Football Park 7:00pm kick off.

Tuesday 25th June Waimak v Coastal Spirit

Tuesday 2nd July Western v Halswell United

Tuesday 9th July Cashmere Technical v Burwood

Tuesday 16th July Ferrymead Bays v FC TWENTY 11

 

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