Mainland Premier League (Part 2)
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Predictions for the weekend...?
Selwyn 2 FC2011 3
Well if it's half as good as the last game, will be another cracker! Perhaps you and I are hoping for slightly different outcomes Gunner
On it Boss!
tech 4 0 uni
Coastal 4 0 halswell
Chch united 1 0 western
Bay's 3 2 nelson
Tech 3 uni 0
Coastal 4 halswell 0
Utd 1 western 1
Bays 2 nelson 1
WPL Parklands 3 Selwyn 0 HT 2-0
I'm hearing FC beat Selwyn 6 zip in Div 1? Sounds almost too good to be true!! But if so MPL here we come :)
yup.. Fc gave a good ol fashioned football lesson to Selwyn today. Now watching Frozen.... just let it go.
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Mainland Premier League
Men’s - Round 17 of 21
Cashmere Technical 3 (Ryan Stanley, Andrew Barton, Tom Schwarz) Universities 1 (Aaron Heath) HT 2 - 0 - Technical retain Hurley Shield
ChCh United 0 Western 4 (Fraser Angus, Sam Miles, Jacob Allen - 2 pens) HT 4 - 0
Coastal Spirit 5 (Gareth Turnbull 3, Meysum Safahi, Tim Dunn) Halswell 0 HT 2 - 0
Nelson Suburbs vs. Ferrymead Bays - played Sunday
Points: Cashmere Tech 42, Suburbs 37, Bays 30, Coastal 27, Western 20, Universities 15, Halswell 10, ChCh United 8
Women’s - Round 12 of 14
Universities 1 (Holly Pascoe) Cashmere Technical 1 (Kathryn van Empel) HT 1 - 1
FC Twenty11 1 (Zoe Eggleston-Archer) Western 0 HT 0 - 0 - FC retain Hawkey Shield and can now lock away until next season
Parklands 3 (Emma Fellowes 2, Meika van der Meer) Selwyn 0 HT 2 - 0
Coastal Spirit the bye
Points games played in ( ) with all teams playing 12 games with 2 byes: Coastal (11) 28, Cashmere Tech (10) 23, Universities (10) 23, Parkland (10) 13, Selwyn (10) 7, FC Twenty (10) 6, Western (11) 3
Fair call Gunner
Club the size of FC2011 simply has to have a MPL side.
fc far to good for Selwyn today! Should have defaulted
I think it's fair to say Padmore showed his true colours today and was absolutely outclassed by Lapslie and FC.
Padmore was very naive in his tactics and maybe showed that the men's game at a decent level is a step too far for him. Selwyn play excellent football but when it comes to the crunch they are poor.
Be interesting to see if Selwyn stick by him.
great result for Coastal WPL
Congratulations to Gareth on another hatrick. He'll be missed.
I think it's fair to say Padmore showed his true colours today and was absolutely outclassed by Lapslie and FC.
Padmore was very naive in his tactics and maybe showed that the men's game at a decent level is a step too far for him. Selwyn play excellent football but when it comes to the crunch they are poor.
Be interesting to see if Selwyn stick by him.
FC has put together a very good team - no two ways about that. From what I saw, FC wanted it more and were class at opening up the defensive unit at the back today. I'd still have Padmore as coach any day of the week - he knows his football, and the style that's played when executed correctly is class. But the players today needed to stand up - and I'd say a few were found wanting. It happens - and that's why we love the sport.
I think it's fair to say Padmore showed his true colours today and was absolutely outclassed by Lapslie and FC.
Padmore was very naive in his tactics and maybe showed that the men's game at a decent level is a step too far for him. Selwyn play excellent football but when it comes to the crunch they are poor.
Be interesting to see if Selwyn stick by him.
What a ridiculous thing to say. Firstly FC fully deserved their win and Congratulations to Glenn and his team for the game but for you to come on here and slag Lee off is ridiculous. Us players let Lee down today there's no doubt about that. For anyone to come in and take Selwyn from bottom of Div 1 to one of the favorites for MPL promotion would have been a stupid thought two seasons ago, i feel no other coach around would have managed that! Especially without the funding to pay players as others do. Can easily see why Canterbury are wanting him to get involved with the coaching set up. How about you have some balls and put your name up in the top left hand corner before you start talking rubbish about easily one of the best coaches around!
I think it's fair to say Padmore showed his true colours today and was absolutely outclassed by Lapslie and FC.
Padmore was very naive in his tactics and maybe showed that the men's game at a decent level is a step too far for him. Selwyn play excellent football but when it comes to the crunch they are poor.
Be interesting to see if Selwyn stick by him.
At half Glen's age, Padmore has a few years of learning left in him just like the young team he has been building.
Were Nomads naive when they got rolled by Selwyn with a similar score in the first round? Were Selwyn/Padmore outclassing them, or did they strike Nomads on an off day?
Selwyn not shy on letting coaches walk the plank but floundering MPL clubs will be disappointed as club and players will stick by him as he has stuck with them unquestionably. Selwyn and Waimak in good hands with him in the mix at senior, youth and junior level.
I think it's fair to say Padmore showed his true colours today and was absolutely outclassed by Lapslie and FC.
Padmore was very naive in his tactics and maybe showed that the men's game at a decent level is a step too far for him. Selwyn play excellent football but when it comes to the crunch they are poor.
Be interesting to see if Selwyn stick by him.
FC has put together a very good team - no two ways about that. From what I saw, FC wanted it more and were class at opening up the defensive unit at the back today. I'd still have Padmore as coach any day of the week - he knows his football, and the style that's played when executed correctly is class. But the players today needed to stand up - and I'd say a few were found wanting. It happens - and that's why we love the sport.
Absolutely no qualms about the result. No 'whinging' or blaming anyone else for our loss today. FC were very very good today and FULLY deserved not only the result but the margin as well. I could focus on some of our boys and performances but that would take the focus away from what was a very good FC game today.
I remember a couple of years ago when we beat them 7-2 or something similar after they dropped down. Glenn mentioned they had lost 36 of 40 senior players, so a big congrats to the rebuild they have performed
One quick mention about it something other than FC, the referee today who I believe was up from Dunedin was outstanding! Completely realistic about the game and what goes on in it. I think he is a referee who all of mainland should look at as an example of what players and coaches want.
To say Lee Padmore isn't up to this level I think is well wide of the mark. He has brought the club a massive distance in a very short time. He put together a plan today that wasn't executed by the players. Again credit the opposition. I'mnot one of these that ups the players when they win and bags the coach when they lose. It's happened and you learn from it and you move on.
all I'm saying is, look at his big game record. Beat by Christchurch United twice last year, beat by nomads and FC convincingly this year. His teams play nice football but they don't get results when it matters. He hasn't come up against any high quality coached as of yet either,
And to suggest Canterbury are after him, are they really? Or has someone just said that?
I'd let him coach my kids all day long, he coaches excellent morales and teaches the game at that level well, when it becomes competitive on another hand, he doesn't look like he wants to win!
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I think it's fair to say Padmore showed his true colours today and was absolutely outclassed by Lapslie and FC.
Padmore was very naive in his tactics and maybe showed that the men's game at a decent level is a step too far for him. Selwyn play excellent football but when it comes to the crunch they are poor.
Be interesting to see if Selwyn stick by him
Spare part more like spareprick. So the result and tactics didn't go how lee wanted it too. that also happens to coaches at the top of the game all round the world. But when it comes to the crunch as you like to say he stick to trying to play football the way he wants too. Can't fault him for that or would you rather he go into the game with the tactic of kicking the opposition instead of the ball. I'm sure there would be offers from some mpl clubs but honestly think he rather be there with selwyn. Result and scoring was fair today and that is football at the end of the day
[quote=Sparepart]
I think it's fair to say Padmore showed his true colours today and was absolutely outclassed by Lapslie and FC.
Padmore was very naive in his tactics and maybe showed that the men's game at a decent level is a step too far for him. Selwyn play excellent football but when it comes to the crunch they are poor.
Be interesting to see if Selwyn stick by him
Spare part more like spareprick. So the result and tactics didn't go how lee wanted it too. that also happens to coaches at the top of the game all round the world. But when it comes to the crunch as you like to say he stick to trying to play football the way he wants too. Can't fault him for that or would you rather he go into the game with the tactic of kicking the opposition instead of the ball. I'm sure there would be offers from some mpl clubs but honestly think he rather be there with selwyn. Result and scoring was fair today and that is football at the end of the day
all I'm saying is, look at his big game record. Beat by Christchurch United twice last year, beat by nomads and FC convincingly this year. His teams play nice football but they don't get results when it matters. He hasn't come up against any high quality coached as of yet either,
And to suggest Canterbury are after him, are they really? Or has someone just said that?
I'd let him coach my kids all day long, he coaches excellent morales and teaches the game at that level well, when it becomes competitive on another hand, he doesn't look like he wants to win!
Have beaten both FC and Nomads this year. You clearly have never met the guy if you think he doesn't like to win! Nothing could be further from the truth!
spare part, unhappy untalented player on the cusps but cant crack it into selwyns first team so stoop to having a dig at the gaffer, hmmmm.. Wouldn't surprise me if this was the case, arrogant sharks who think they know best. Always easy to stick the boot into a coach, just remember they are the ones who introduce a game plan during the week based on what they believe will provide the best platform and opportunity to win points.. If players cant execute a game plan then the buck stops with them on the day
Let me start by saying I am from within the Selwyn camp.
Criticise Padmore all you wish about being naive, at the end of the day he is 26 years old.
Also criticise him tactically, he is a coach who likes to see the game played beautifully and he may need to change that to get out of that league.
But please don't question his will to win or his desire. I for one have been involved with football for a long time and I have never seen a coach so upset and on the verge of tears after a result like that, he wears his heart on his sleeve and loves the club he is at.
I can guarantee if he is allowed to be he will be at Selwyn next year and will make no excuses for any results that occur.
We need to stop pushing these young coaches away that will take our game forwards in years to come, Padmore will have had bigger and better offers to leave the country and yet he has stuck around through thick and thin, why is this?
Support these guys I say!
Taking a few comments from previous posts. Lee is young, he has a desire to win, he is always willing to listen and learn, he has helped Selwyn advance incredibly over last two seasons and has a great crop of young talent to push harder next year, all this done without any paying of players. There are two sides battling to stay in mpl who would love to have him as their coach. Yet funnily enough both sides have either bought survival last year or have offered it to players this year.
I'm hearing FC beat Selwyn 6 zip in Div 1? Sounds almost too good to be true!! But if so MPL here we come :)
I find it funny how people are starting to think that FC have the league sewn up yet whilst they have it in their own hands so do Nomads!
Next weekends game between the 2 could be an interesting battle. An FC win then yes the league is all but over, a Nomads win and FC will be needing other teams, possibly even Selwyn, to take points off Nomads.
In terms of the Selwyn debates going on above, whilst I haven't seen the full ins and outs of their 1st team recently, you guys have certainly come a long way in the past few seasons from being one of the teams in the lower reaches of div 1 to challenging at the top.
From the outside it looks as though the club have certainly got their house in order and are working the right way to develop and go forward, which overall is great to see in Christchurch
I'm hearing FC beat Selwyn 6 zip in Div 1? Sounds almost too good to be true!! But if so MPL here we come :)
I find it funny how people are starting to think that FC have the league sewn up yet whilst they have it in their own hands so do Nomads!
Next weekends game between the 2 could be an interesting battle. An FC win then yes the league is all but over, a Nomads win and FC will be needing other teams, possibly even Selwyn, to take points off Nomads.
Don't worry Benchie, i'm not counting our chickens just yet but at the end of the day the way we are playing has me supremely confident to be fair. The club is going great, Glen and Boyd are both doing and outstanding job bringing on the youth of both our club and the region as a whole. If we'd lost 6 nil to Sewyn today no way would anyone be questioning either of them or the direction of our club. People may not like FC but because of Glen and Boyds work, we damn well deserve any success that comes our way!
I'm hearing FC beat Selwyn 6 zip in Div 1? Sounds almost too good to be true!! But if so MPL here we come :)
I find it funny how people are starting to think that FC have the league sewn up yet whilst they have it in their own hands so do Nomads!
Next weekends game between the 2 could be an interesting battle. An FC win then yes the league is all but over, a Nomads win and FC will be needing other teams, possibly even Selwyn, to take points off Nomads.
In terms of the Selwyn debates going on above, whilst I haven't seen the full ins and outs of their 1st team recently, you guys have certainly come a long way in the past few seasons from being one of the teams in the lower reaches of div 1 to challenging at the top.
From the outside it looks as though the club have certainly got their house in order and are working the right way to develop and go forward, which overall is great to see in Christchurch
if it wasn't for Padmore div 1 would be playing knock out by now, and not the business end of round 3.
Took a young man to ram that through as Mainland didn't want to know. Whoever will move up into MPL will be better prepared and hopefully stay up because of it. if only more clubs were aspirational like that football would be in a far better position in NZ.
I'm hearing FC beat Selwyn 6 zip in Div 1? Sounds almost too good to be true!! But if so MPL here we come :)
Next weekends game between the 2 could be an interesting battle. An FC win then yes the league is all but over, a Nomads win and FC will be needing other teams, possibly even Selwyn, to take points off Nomads.
And for mathematics sake, a win next week and the league isn't all but over, it is over :)
Time to update the top ten (two players 10=) scorers in the MPL since it started in 2002 - players in bold still currently playing in the MPL this season.
| Scorer | Goals |
| Gareth Turnbull | 92 |
| Keith Grosvenor | 79 |
| Michael White | 73 |
| Russell Kamo | 72 |
| Dan Ede | 70 |
| Neil Murphy | 51 |
| Greg Feutz | 50 |
| Ben Wright | 46 |
| Alex Pak | 46 |
| Stu Kelly | 45 |
| Geoff MacIntyre | 45 |
Interestingly these eleven players have scored 16.79% of the total number of goals (669 of the 3984). There have been 89 own goals to date.
With Gareth scoring a hat-trick today was his 8th next best is Dan Ede with 6, then Michael White on 5.
After being in the opposing dugout & hearing his aftermatch speeches in the last 2 seasons, Lee definitely wants to win & always by playing positive football. He always acknowledges when a team pushes his team & you can see he takes that onboard for next time the teams meet.
Some people think hes arrogant but I just think hes really confident in what he is trying to achieve & the players that he has & like Experience said he wears his heart on his sleeve, he is passionate about Selwyn & their setup & I think some people are just envious & jealous that they don't have people in their club that replicate Lee.
I'm hearing FC beat Selwyn 6 zip in Div 1? Sounds almost too good to be true!! But if so MPL here we come :)
I find it funny how people are starting to think that FC have the league sewn up yet whilst they have it in their own hands so do Nomads!
Next weekends game between the 2 could be an interesting battle. An FC win then yes the league is all but over, a Nomads win and FC will be needing other teams, possibly even Selwyn, to take points off Nomads.
Don't worry Benchie, i'm not counting our chickens just yet but at the end of the day the way we are playing has me supremely confident to be fair. The club is going great, Glen and Boyd are both doing and outstanding job bringing on the youth of both our club and the region as a whole. If we'd lost 6 nil to Sewyn today no way would anyone be questioning either of them or the direction of our club. People may not like FC but because of Glen and Boyds work, we damn well deserve any success that comes our way!
And that in essence is why there has been a swift reaction to the comments about Lee.it is his work primarily that has Selwyn where they are now. From last and basically shark to a side challenging for MPL promotion in 2 years. So we aren't going to question what Lee has done and is doing. We just all need to keep working hard, probably harder next season and try again. I have no idea where Sparepart is from in terms of a club affiliation, but if they are from outside a club and make comments like that then you should have a long think about posts. I know forum blogs are a great place for rumours and shark talking, but comment on people or things if you know what is going on.
If however Sparepart is in the Selwyn setup, then as Lee has said to everyone at the club all along, if you have an issue with him then just toughen up and speak face to face. Anyone, regardless of what you think of them deserves that!
Having seen the top three div one clubs several times this year I don't believe there is much between them and the result of one game probably shouldn't be seen as one team or coach being superior to the others. It's insulting to suggest that Padmore is inferior based on one result. For mine he is the most influential coach in the league and my loyalties don't belong to any of the top three.
Based on junior development and club culture Selwyn have to be part of MPL very soon and FC2011 also. Clubs like Western and Christchurch United who do very little to develop junior football should gradually disappear into oblivion and clubs who support junior development should succeed them. Would be good if Mainland football supported clubs who promote junior development.
Having seen the top three div one clubs several times this year I don't believe there is much between them and the result of one game probably shouldn't be seen as one team or coach being superior to the others. It's insulting to suggest that Padmore is inferior based on one result. For mine he is the most influential coach in the league and my loyalties don't belong to any of the top three.
Based on junior development and club culture Selwyn have to be part of MPL very soon and FC2011 also. Clubs like Western and Christchurch United who do very little to develop junior football should gradually disappear into oblivion and clubs who support junior development should succeed them. Would be good if Mainland football supported clubs who promote junior development.
so what we are saying is Padmore is ok because he is passionate? Players like Dan Ede deserve more than passion!
If you speak to the guy he has great techical knowledge but it's fact he doesn't know how to win the big games.
It will be interesting to see if his team win another game this season.
so what we are saying is Padmore is ok because he is passionate? Players like Dan Ede deserve more than passion!
If you speak to the guy he has great techical knowledge but it's fact he doesn't know how to win the big games.
It will be interesting to see if his team win another game this season.
Sparepart I've given up given expecting what I'm "deserved". Lee Padmore has done nothing but support me in everything and push me further! To say I deserve more than Lee Padmore is insulting to me and most definitely Lee himself! If you don't know lee personally then stop talking about him because you've clearly got him wrong. How about giving us your name if your constantly slagging him off so we can see whether you know what/who your talking about!
so what we are saying is Padmore is ok because he is passionate? Players like Dan Ede deserve more than passion!
If you speak to the guy he has great techical knowledge but it's fact he doesn't know how to win the big games.
It will be interesting to see if his team win another game this season.
Doesn't know how to win the big games??
Selwyn v's FC - won - draw - loss
Selwyn v's Nomads - won - loss - still to play
Big games with some big W's there.