New Zealand Football coaching certificates

Where do the NZF coaching certificates stand in comparison to other international football coaching qualifications? I'm interesting in taking the NZF youth courses but am unsure of the value that they hold in comparison to other qualifications. I believe the FA level 1, 2 and 3 are quite well regarded and the UEFA licenses are seen as the most prestigious. 

Do we have the option to take any of the FA or UEFA courses in New Zealand? I understand the UEFA licenses are expensive and the application/success rate is quite low.

Does anyone know any more information about this? 

Cheers.

There has been some discussion about this on the coaching chat thread.

Chalk and cheese. NZF youth ones are half a day. Good for those coaching club level.

Youth one overseas are a week or 2. And are suited to those who coach youth for a living.

UEFA ones aren't available here. But if you want to go down the advanced level, your best bet to to do the advanced FFA/AFC ones in Australia. The C-level will set you back about 3-4K. Think they only run one centeralised course a year. Held in Canberra for about 10 IIRC.

Cheers 2B. 

Wonder why you suggest FFA option than UEFA. Probably due to the exclusivity and difficulty to get into/through the UEFA courses I'd imagine..

The problem with FA coaching here in the UK is you tend to have to do them over a whole week so you need to take time off work

English FA youth level 1 and 2 were held at Western Springs, Auckland in October this year. Both were covered in the same week.

NZF courses are great as well. Not so heavy into what we are teaching but more about how to teach and to consider all aspects of a player.

I think NZF are currently working on their qualifications being recognised/transferable in other countries.

Email recently received from NZF, Seems the Senior Level three  equivalent to the Uefa B:

From: Andy Hedge [mailto:Andy.Hedge@nzfootball.co.nz] 
Sent: Monday, 2 December 2013 10:35 a.m.
Subject: New Zealand Football Senior Coaching Courses 2014.

Coaches,

Thank you for your interest in attending our Senior Level 2 or 3 courses.

These courses have been under review this year and in 2014 we will be launching revamped Senior Level 2 and Senior Level 3 courses.

Dates, venues and costs are being finalised and when they are, they will be published on our website and also promoted through our Federation's websites as well as emailed directly to you.

Please find below some further information on the courses:

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Level 2 Courses:

4 Day non-residential course. Optional Assessment.

Auckland: 15, 16 & 22, 23 Feb

Wellington: 27-30 March inclusive

Christchurch: 20-23 March inclusive

Pre-requisite of Senior Level 1.

_____________________________________________________________________________________

Level 3 Course:

12 Day Residential course. Now equates to OFC 'B' License (UEFA 'B') and allows candidates who pass to access the OFC 'A' License (UEFA 'A').

Venue: TBC but likely to be Taupo.

Course: 1-9 March (9 days)

Assessments: 17-19 October (3 days) 

Pre-requisite of Senior Level 2.

_____________________________________________________________________________________

All costs, dates and venues to be confirmed asap.

We look forward to seeing you on a course soon.

regards

Andy

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They need to sort their shit out in terms of level 3, the last one that was run was disgraceful and people are still trying to get assessed for it 18 months later, a recent assessment day was canceled on the day because there were not enough players to coach. The above look's like they are going some way to improve this, but will have to see it to believe it.

Can you tell me who ran the FA courses at Western Springs please?

2 Fellas came out from the english FA, Darren something and Andy something... sorry mate, cant really remember, will look it up and post it for you later if you like.

English FA courses had many similarities to the NZF youth courses around looking at players as a whole. Seemed to confirm to me that NZF courses were on the right track and pretty consistant with best practice around the world. Best parts was just having great chats and debates with other coaches. Long days to get it all done in one week though.

This is a pretty interesting comment, considering the difficulties England has in bringing young players through at the highest levels of the game.

But el grap, other factors at play. EPL one of the most international leagues in the world with the biggest $ so attracts best of best. Players simply don't get opps to develop. EPL clubs want B teams in leagues (or feeder clubs) for this very reason.

interested in your thoughts that the FA were more into What you know about the game, rather than, How to teach, certainly my perception of NZF courses.

Who brought the FA coaches over? Was it the club? Was there only one course?

Appreciate your help.

What problem does England have producing young players who can play at highest level?

Western Springs course was organized by NZF, 1st time in NZ so think it was a bit of a trial.

No, definitely both NZF and English FA courses for the youth bracket look at many different aspects of the player, typical sort of 4 corner approach and both courses are more pitched at how players learn and where you pitch your practices.

Thing is England players are supposedly up with the play technically to the age of 16 but then opportunities to bring them through via B teams in the 16-20 age aren't there. The youth leagues aren't the answer. Fairly common euro practice is to have them playing competitive games with and against more seasoned players.

Great wee next bracket of 23 & 24 yr olds too Danny Welbeck, Theo Walcott, Daniel Sturridge, Jordan Henderson, Jay Rodriguez