I hope Capital Football the Council & the Clubs are going to get into planning mode very soon because on the back of the All Whites success at the World Cup I can see a lot more kids wanting to play putting pressure on grounds & Clubs.
How will (& how can) Capital Football & the Clubs work to take advantage of the interest that will come out of the World cup?
What will (can) the Council do? Will there be new grounds made available if interest increases or can they accelerate the artificial program? or will they just say as they have before, sorry no more room for anymore teams?
I think it will be interesting to see how things develop next season.
Thoughts, ideas, general rantings all appreciated
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The door opens wider for other Football Providers. 
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The door opens wider for other Football Providers.
Business opportunities abound, if only there were alternative providers
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Ahhh... how about the person that just posted before you? Little Dribblers is a pretty good opportunity for someone with the initial capital and then the time to do it!
Lets just hope with NZF getting a decent windfall from the World Cup that some of this might just make it to grassroot level and that hopefully maybe we might get some new pitches out of it.
Lets just hope with NZF getting a decent windfall from the World Cup that some of this might just make it to grassroot level and that hopefully maybe we might get some new pitches out of it.
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And then there's Sunday League, Twilight Summer Football, Indoor Football, Street football, Culture Kicks, Race Unity Football Festival, Community Football Cup, Upper Hutt Multi Ethnic Tournament and all the other ethnic tournaments. Plenty to choose from even now that gets under the radar when it comes to counting football playing numbers
SportZone2010-06-25 19:42:07
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Not much point in any of these if there aren't any grounds to play on.Thats where NZF need to spend the money. Build it and people will come!
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These already have grounds and venues to play on. The sensible thing about most of these are they are in the summer or on a sunday.
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There is also women's football and U21s on Sundays and we don't seem to have enough grounds...
Grounds played on during summer affect availability during winter, and there were cancellations in twilight last summer. The issue is we need more grounds and/or more artificials built sooner!
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I agree with that but the only ones who can afford to are the councils and the pokie organisations. The financial risk is the actual cost to maintain them and then replace them and who is going to wear that?
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NZ Football have to do it of course by funding the capital cost. Some or all. They can afford it. The maintenance is the easy part.
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How much money do you think they have? I would be surprised if there was enough left to satisfy even one main football centre. If Wellington are looking at 10 that's 20 million gone already just to build them and where would they build them? The next issue would be how are they to be run?
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C'mon Tony, they have the money to do a couple. Maybe 2 more if they went half and half with WCC. And what is the alternative? Heaps of demand, heaps of rain, grounds stuffed, massive list of cancellations including little dribblers. Is that really progress from the world cup?
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Yeah but a couple won't be enough. Even if you start at 9am in the morning you'll still only get 6 games a day on it if even if you have your last kickoff at 7pm. There are 91 senior mens games on a Saturday not counting premier and central League, plus all the kids and all the women. then trainings, rugby, touch I guess in the summer.
Artificials are the answer but that is only NOT coping with the players we have now. What about the new recruits from the All Whites success and how will clubs gonna cope with that. They don't have enough coaches now and Club resources, including facilities for training are already stretched. Mums will be ringing this week to get their kids in and the clubs will say "sorry, you're too late, come back in February".
Artificials are the answer but that is only NOT coping with the players we have now. What about the new recruits from the All Whites success and how will clubs gonna cope with that. They don't have enough coaches now and Club resources, including facilities for training are already stretched. Mums will be ringing this week to get their kids in and the clubs will say "sorry, you're too late, come back in February".
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Or play in Summer
Or play street footie
Salmon swim upstream
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Ahhh... how about the person that just posted before you? Little Dribblers is a pretty good opportunity for someone with the initial capital and then the time to do it!
Lets just hope with NZF getting a decent windfall from the World Cup that some of this might just make it to grassroot level and that hopefully maybe we might get some new pitches out of it.
Lets just hope with NZF getting a decent windfall from the World Cup that some of this might just make it to grassroot level and that hopefully maybe we might get some new pitches out of it.
Maybe I should have put a winking little face beside my comment but I thought it was obvious that I was being sarcastic. Its so hard to get through to the common people when you have a brain the size of mine 
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Yeah but a couple won't be enough. Even if you start at 9am in the morning you'll still only get 6 games a day on it if even if you have your last kickoff at 7pm. There are 91 senior mens games on a Saturday not counting premier and central League, plus all the kids and all the women. then trainings, rugby, touch I guess in the summer.
Artificial are the answer but that is only NOT coping with the players we have now. What about the new recruits from the All Whites success and how will clubs gonna cope with that. They don't have enough coaches now and Club resources, including facilities for training are already stretched. Mums will be ringing this week to get their kids in and the clubs will say "sorry, you're too late, come back in February".
Artificial are the answer but that is only NOT coping with the players we have now. What about the new recruits from the All Whites success and how will clubs gonna cope with that. They don't have enough coaches now and Club resources, including facilities for training are already stretched. Mums will be ringing this week to get their kids in and the clubs will say "sorry, you're too late, come back in February".
Thats more of the sort of thing I am on about.
How do we accommodate the expected influx of new players, are Capital Football, NZ Football and & the other Federations planning for this now? The same goes for the clubs and Councils
There has to be a co-ordinated strategy put together at the Federation & club level that aligns with NZ Footballs plans so we can all move forward. the game now has some momentum its up to us not to blow it again.
At the grassroots level I hope that petty self interest from the Clubs & various personalities doesn't slow things down.
The private providers also have a big part to play, perhaps even contracting their services to Federations etc.
I see the big issues in Wellington are around grounds, quality coaching, facilities & improving the professionalism of the Clubs (thats not to say most aren't run well).
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I agree with that but the only ones who can afford to are the councils and the pokie organisations. The financial risk is the actual cost to maintain them and then replace them and who is going to wear that?
The ongoing costs of an Artificial I understand are about half those of maintaining a normal grass field so although there is a high capital outlay the operational costs are less. The only issue is that I believe you have to re-lay the turf every 10 years.
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Without any Wellington specific information I would find it hard to compare the cost of maintaining an artificial pitch as compared to a grass pitch. WCC woud spend far more $$ on maintaining say Kelburn Park than it would Nairn St Park. There is also specialised equipment for maintaining turfs so someone would have to buy that as well.
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Or play in Summer
Hey Tony,
good job on Breakfast the other day! I was on SBS Australia though! :-)
Love my summer football, but I reckon Twilight could be improved by:
1) Not cancelling games as soon as it spits.
2) Allow slide tackles (at least if there's no one around you. I.e. you want to keep the ball in play or you slide to score a goal).
Apart from this, love your Multi Ethnic World Cup everything else!
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cheers
VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life
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Or play in Summer
Love my summer football, but I reckon Twilight could be improved by:
1) Not cancelling games as soon as it spits.
2) Allow slide tackles (at least if there's no one around you. I.e. you want to keep the ball in play or you slide to score a goal).
We don't usually cancel when it spits but sometimes we get it wrong. An artificial turf would fix that.
Slide Tackles at Nairn are not allowed because there are bits of steel pipe just below the surface. The first year we played there we found one sticking out and when we started digging it just kept going so we cut it off and made a rule for Nairn park about sliding. The rule says 'slide tackles'. Slide tackles, sliding and tackling are 3 different things. You can bring it up with the refs before the game if you want an interpretation. We just don't want to find a customer impaled on a piece of metal pipe. It holds up the game you know.
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