Does anyone know for sure what is happening with the Northern
League in 2008? I have heard that a survey was conducted and
out of 32 clubs, 26 want to keep the Northern League so why on
earth are US1 trying to pull out their clubs and start a new
league? Is this football admin gone mad. Who are these US1
board members and how do we get rid of them if they aren't
listening to the clubs? The Northern League is very strong
and provides a good stepping stone for young players to prove
themselves before moving up to NZFC level. If I think of the
two strongest clubs this year, Central Utd have provided players
like Jacob Matthews to the U17, Michael Boxall to the U20's, Joel
and Sam Matthews played for NZ A and in their squad are players
with vast NZFC experience like Richard Gillespie, Paul Urlovic,
Grant Young etc. East Coast Bays were runners up and provided
Phil Edgington & Jacob Spoonley to the U20's and Jacob is now
with the Phoenix. Why would anyone not want them to continue
playing against each other? If you remove the 5 current US1
teams from the Northern League. Central will end up playing
teams like Mt Albert and Papatoetoe instead. On the other
side East Coast Bays will be playing non league teams like Forrest
Hill. It doesn't make sense! And while i'm at it, why
scrap Division 2 when everyone wants to keep it. I say remove
the board!
Permalink
Permalink
The board of US1 seem to think that the league spots are against
US1 and do nothing to strengthen the football in US1 and the
refereeing panels are biased against US1 and their referees are
being held back.
In truth US1 want to form their own premier league. While you can take the 6 teams from the premier league, chuck in North Force and Takapuna, who is going to referee it? They haven't got the strength in that repsects or the teams numbers to justify going it along and forming their own league. How is it actually strengthening the players in the US1 catchment area when players from anywhere in Auckland can go over the bridge and play for any team on any side. The only way it would work is that all players that play at a US1 club must live in the catchment zone of US1, a grammar zone-type system. Otherwise, if players from Papakura or Ellerslie can cross the bridge and play for any club on the shore, how does that strengthen US1?
In truth US1 want to form their own premier league. While you can take the 6 teams from the premier league, chuck in North Force and Takapuna, who is going to referee it? They haven't got the strength in that repsects or the teams numbers to justify going it along and forming their own league. How is it actually strengthening the players in the US1 catchment area when players from anywhere in Auckland can go over the bridge and play for any team on any side. The only way it would work is that all players that play at a US1 club must live in the catchment zone of US1, a grammar zone-type system. Otherwise, if players from Papakura or Ellerslie can cross the bridge and play for any club on the shore, how does that strengthen US1?
Permalink
Permalink
Yeah they are just nuts! Absolute rocks in their heads. I
have heard they are trying to force the clubs to sign an agreement
but I know for a fact that all the US1 clubs that are currently in
the Northern Premier don't want to leave. Aren't they
supposed to have the clubs best interest at heart. how do you
get on this US1 board? Are there elections? They should stick
to doing the draws and collecting fees!
Permalink
Permalink
US1 are a disgrace. All money motivated making their own profits. I
dont want to go and watch ECB vs. Forest Hill with their 46 year
old keeper! Thats pub footy!
Permalink
Permalink
Just heard that all the US1 clubs bar 2 voted to retain the
Northern League for next year.
Permalink
Permalink
Probaby the second div. clubs, maybe Albany as they got relegated?
Permalink
Permalink
Nah Albania will be in Div 1 next year Ben, and Taka are moving up
to Div 1 aswell.
Probably Hibiscus and FHM, the two who aren't involved in
Northern League football next season.
Three for me, and two for them.
Permalink
Permalink
One of the clubs was Albany because their chairman sat on the US1
board and had to play the company line (form our own league) They
wanted out of Premiers before the season finished.
DrQuack322007-10-05 14:50:31
DrQuack322007-10-05 14:50:31
Permalink
Permalink
Thats ridiculous. Will be quite angry at US1 if the norther premier
league does not go ahead
Permalink
Permalink
Oh my bad will just delete some now
Permalink
Permalink
One of the clubs was Albany because their chairman sat on the US1
board and had to play the company line (form our own league) They
wanted out of Premiers before the season finished.
Albany didnt vote against it.
There were 4 clubs that didnt vote for it. That does not mean
that they voted against it either as not all clubs
voted.
I suggest you talk to your club and get a copy of the minutes
before you start guessing.
A dog with a bone :)
Permalink
Permalink
Justs a few snippets from the article regarding USI which
rings true despite what many may think. Certainly food for thought
and mirrors what goes on in Wellington.
"To him, it is an amateur sport which should not be spending
money it doesn't have and can't get. He believes clubs are going
deep into the red trying to fund wages for mediocre players to
compete in a "third-tier" competition, and he "absolutely" thinks
at least one of US1's clubs will go bust next year if the
competition continues.
He has evidence some clubs spent $50,000 on the competition last year and thinks others touched $80,000. Six of his eight clubs incurred trading losses totalling $140,000 in the year ending 2006, the 2005 champions Bay Olympic allegedly lost $215,000 that year. US1 estimates suggest its eight clubs would spend $400,000 on competing next year."
He says it is hard to find exact figures, but says: "We need to kill off the environment where clubs feel they need to be successful by spending big dollars on players... we've heard of signing-on fees of up to $6000, it could be more and if we could uncover the facts and figures it would blow the lid off the Northern League."
The answer? Clubs must stop paying players, the sport must go local, not regional and national, and stop wasting cash. "We need to end... the cut-throat, boom-and-bust scenario, where you are all right if you are in the premier league but your future depends on spending dollars on players and coaches. Clubs spend money for no prize at the end. The Northern League is a third-tier competition: you could spend $1.5m over the next 15 years, finish top every time and never get promoted."
He has evidence some clubs spent $50,000 on the competition last year and thinks others touched $80,000. Six of his eight clubs incurred trading losses totalling $140,000 in the year ending 2006, the 2005 champions Bay Olympic allegedly lost $215,000 that year. US1 estimates suggest its eight clubs would spend $400,000 on competing next year."
He says it is hard to find exact figures, but says: "We need to kill off the environment where clubs feel they need to be successful by spending big dollars on players... we've heard of signing-on fees of up to $6000, it could be more and if we could uncover the facts and figures it would blow the lid off the Northern League."
The answer? Clubs must stop paying players, the sport must go local, not regional and national, and stop wasting cash. "We need to end... the cut-throat, boom-and-bust scenario, where you are all right if you are in the premier league but your future depends on spending dollars on players and coaches. Clubs spend money for no prize at the end. The Northern League is a third-tier competition: you could spend $1.5m over the next 15 years, finish top every time and never get promoted."
Permalink
Permalink
1. Getting rid of Northern League won't necessarily solve the
problem of clubs "wasting money". Some clubs will always spend
money trying to win whatever league they're in.
2. A club should be allowed to spend its money how it likes, as long as it's not doing anything dodgy.
3. Club members are the ones who should be keeping their boards and committees honest - if the members of a club don't like the way their club is run they should go to the AGM and do something about it. US1 shouldn't be making decisions for clubs that their own members should be making.
4. And if a club goes bust, so what? It's not ideal but it's hardly the end of the world either and it would send a good message about fiscal responsibility to the others.
2. A club should be allowed to spend its money how it likes, as long as it's not doing anything dodgy.
3. Club members are the ones who should be keeping their boards and committees honest - if the members of a club don't like the way their club is run they should go to the AGM and do something about it. US1 shouldn't be making decisions for clubs that their own members should be making.
4. And if a club goes bust, so what? It's not ideal but it's hardly the end of the world either and it would send a good message about fiscal responsibility to the others.
Permalink
Permalink
I got along to see the northern league a few of times in the last year. It was certainly much more entertaining and at a price of free a much better day of football than trekking to miles away albany to watch the Knights take $25 for rubbish ball...and some of the teams had genuine class players..
It is a high profile period for soccer perhaps? is there
another big sponsor out there ready to inject some life into
football in the north of the country?
Permalink
Permalink
Noone can compete in terms of $$ with Central.
Permalink
Permalink