why dont we fill the phoenix with all greeks? zagorakis could fill a place on the bench
Question for Olympic.
At least Zagorakis lifted the Euro 2004
Cup...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If We filled the Nix with the greeks the would never win the
league.
Isn't wikipeadia effectivley and open forum that people can say
what even they want on. Oh wait, I forgot the everything you read
on the internet is true. Why would people lie :-)
Lie about what Toffeeman....???
you wud do better putting greeks in the nix then rubbish old poms.... people saying the league wouldnt miss olympic, there 1 of the top teams evry year give them a break
2007 Central League
Currently 3rd
2006 Central League 4th
2005 Central League 2nd
2004 Federation Premier 2nd
2003 Federation Premier 4th
2002 Federation Premier 10th (Marist declined promotion for 2003 season)
2001 Federation Premier 5th
2000 Federation Premier 5th
1999 North Island League 10th
1998 Central League 5th
1997 Central League 2nd
Ok....so in the last 10 years Olympics average final league position in the "top league" of the given year is........5.2.......now you can't finish 5.2 in the league so using the Swedish rounding system you would round DOWN to 5.......so 5th......thats the average finishing position for the Greeks.
*all league placement information taken from www.olympicafc.org.nz*
2006 Central League 4th
2005 Central League 2nd
2004 Federation Premier 2nd
2003 Federation Premier 4th
2002 Federation Premier 10th (Marist declined promotion for 2003 season)
2001 Federation Premier 5th
2000 Federation Premier 5th
1999 North Island League 10th
1998 Central League 5th
1997 Central League 2nd
Ok....so in the last 10 years Olympics average final league position in the "top league" of the given year is........5.2.......now you can't finish 5.2 in the league so using the Swedish rounding system you would round DOWN to 5.......so 5th......thats the average finishing position for the Greeks.
*all league placement information taken from www.olympicafc.org.nz*
Since you perceive yourself to be
the statistics guru Barber how about instead of picking on
Olympic you do the above on your club
Very enough... stats never lie......No argument there, there is
always next year....!!!
"Try, try , try and if you fail...keep trying even harder"
im not "picking" on anyone my yellow fever brethren! just callin it
straight.
Olympic are a GREAT club and have some great lads in the team, do not get me wrong! the passion they bring is massive and nothing much beats playing Olympic @ Newtown or anywhere for that matter. I had my best game in a Wests shirt against Olympic, it was my run-on debut and it was a buzz......2001 @ Newtown Park, I had to mark Steve McMahon and got smashed in a tackle by Jason Musgrove.......wouldnt trade it for the world!
Good luck to anyone playin football on the weekend, see u at Bell 2mrw Jiz08 ;)
Olympic are a GREAT club and have some great lads in the team, do not get me wrong! the passion they bring is massive and nothing much beats playing Olympic @ Newtown or anywhere for that matter. I had my best game in a Wests shirt against Olympic, it was my run-on debut and it was a buzz......2001 @ Newtown Park, I had to mark Steve McMahon and got smashed in a tackle by Jason Musgrove.......wouldnt trade it for the world!
Good luck to anyone playin football on the weekend, see u at Bell 2mrw Jiz08 ;)
You have a personal footy anecdote for every occassion Barber. When
I am standing next to you at the Ring of Fire I want you to promise
that you will concentrate on the game at hand for ninety minutes
please, and not compare an Aloisi tackle to one that was done on
you at Endeavour Park in 2002..
Wow, so much heated discussion over Olympic, im impressed.
At the end of the day Olympic posses the skill and
determination to compete in the Central League and the supporters
are second to none.
And Barber appriacte your acknowledgement, but do the stats
say that arguably Newtown park aginst the Greeks is one of the
hardest crowds/grounds to play in front with the team giving
200%????
Uncle Steve Olympic have lost some very big games at home so not
sure that all that counts.
RoyOfTheRovers2007-07-07 12:14:58
Miramar this year(3-2) and last year(5-2).West last
year(5-2).Marist in the Semi's of the cup just to name a few.
Once you get ahead of olympic by 2 goals it is common knowlage
in wellington that you will go on and win.Its what everyone talks
about before going out to play them....just what I have
heard.
I love your supporters and the passion im not bashing you guys
here its just the word on the street and around those water coolers
at work.
okay wellington united fanz where were ur ball boyz n saterday ae
and olympic won 3-0
With Wests and Miramar dropping games this weekend looks like O are
back in the hunt with a good chance. Nothing better than a close
run to the final whistle.
Olympic are now sitting in a good position which should improve
after next weeks games. Than I'm afraid they will struggle to get
another win and will slide down the table to finish outside the top
4.
Olympic are now sitting in a good position which should improve
after next weeks games. Than I'm afraid they will struggle to get
another win and will slide down the table to finish outside the top
4.
Well...I am sure that Olympic boys will try and prove you
wrong"nightz", yia there are a some hard games ahead of us but you
never know...I was just wondering how many teams have taken full
points from Napier at ParK Island...??
It will be full on till the end of the season and yes our boys
will be tested..but we do have faith on them...
Hey Da Boss, I hope that fires a few up. It would be great for the
club to finish in the top 3 not only for the players (young lads)
but also for your few loyal supporters. Building up to be an
interesting few weeks ahead.
Top 4 would be a great achievement for the club considering how many players we have lost and how well we have put a new team together and new coach. We have got a young side with a few experienced players like Barry Simon and Raf. The thing to remember is that this year we have got alot of greeks in the team so they will stay with the club for a long time therefor this team will only get better! They do not play for money because most of them are not even being paid and those who r rather there money go to the club then themselves. Dont see many players from other clubs doing that. However id like to see a HUUUGGGEE turnout against Stop Out at Newtown Park on Sunday please as this is Barry Lewis's 100th game!!! He has been an extremely loyal player to the club and even though he comes last in every fitness run he is still one of the best defenders in the league!!
Come and experience this greek crowd!! with our new
introduction thanks to Peter Carras: The drum!
We have got a young side with a few experienced players like
Barry Simon and Raf.
I love it when the 'young team' call comes out. Greek
supporters have been saying that for the past 5 years!
Sorry can't make the game... am watching paint dry on Sunday.
Costa = 17, Andrew (gk) =18ish, Georga Baba =
19, Gerondis = 19, Anthony = 21ish i thnk, Mikey = 21, Chaz =
21, Jimmy = 23ish.
Thats who i can think of that are really young and will not
leave the club! Yes Jimmy went to Miramar back in the day but now
that he starts and more greeks r in the team he will stay. I think
most players that do leave want to come back caz they do not
realise the support they get and how good the atmosphere is.
olympic is a good club just please get a good coach so your not
just around the top 4 but right up there with wests and miramar
However id like to see a HUUUGGGEE turnout against Stop Out at Newtown Park on Sunday please as this is Barry Lewis's 100th game!!! He has been an extremely loyal player to the club and even though he comes last in every fitness run he is still one of the best defenders in the league!!
Come and experience this greek crowd!! with our new
introduction thanks to Peter Carras: The drum!
Cheers Pavlos although you could have left the
fitness thing out mate haha.
I'd like to put my fitness or lack of down to age but in all
honesty it has always been terrible but so be it. No point
breaking the habit of a life time now.
Well with olympic back into it and, with Olympic having to Play
Miramar, i can say that we are looking to finish second and
anything less than third will be a dissapointment. Not expecting to
beat miramar but looking for it to be a close one.
Stop out v Olympic Sunday. Barry's 100th. Come on papou.
interesting comment Jiz08 who do you believe would be the right
person? Olympic have had quite a few different coaches over the
last few years and none of them have produced the goods either
hence my question is, is it the coach or the players within the
club? I havent seen many games this year but looking at there
results obviously they are there, there abouts and in reading
some of the other comments it looks like they are rebuilding as in
having alot of younger players so what is expected? West buy
alot of players and as such will always be up there as do
Miramar I know the greeks use to but do they still?
Interesting thoughts. what does it cost to run a top team
these days ie how much is being paid to these so called special
players and how many of them are getting $$$.
i think olympic have done well this year considering there fallout
with shane i thought that wasnt the best move getting him i just
think if they get the right coach it could spark some of the
younger greek players, i think this year they have bin lacking in a
few positions but well done to olympic there right up there and in
the hunt
This Olympic team is their worst in four years.
Harsh comment Feverish. On paper the team this year isn't as strong
as in the past but the spirit and team unity is definitely a
lot better hence why the team is doing quite well. Obviously a
team will bond moreso when you're not bringing in new players
midway through the season
and disrupting patterns etc.
I think if you look back to last year we did well early on in
the season then for some reason once NZFC players came into the
fold the team went pear shape. I'm not pointing the finger at those
players but its hard for a team to continue to do well when some
players dont' really want to be there or are there for the wrong
reasons - $$$$
This Olympic team is their worst in four years.
Hi Feverish, as an Olympic supporter I take your comments as a
"bait"....and yes I accept the fact that this is your opinion. It
will be nice to be able to see what facts help you form this
opinion.
An whilst you do that perhaps you can tell us how many teams
have taken full points at Napier as well as 2 points (2
draws) of Wests.....?
Da Boss it only matters at the end of the season what you win
unless your telling me its a social team there for
participation.Aunty helen would love to hear that.
Yeah it was pretty much a baiting exercise, but I think I agree with myself. Looking at the bench that came on for the dull Wests game, you guys are lacking depth. In previous years you wouldn�t have put on a player who just arrived from Rugby League Park. Your teams of previous years would be doing better. Good on you for not throwing the cheque book around this year (or that may have been forced). When you do that, players will just move on to the next club (Wests) when it dries up.
Maybe I am just being shallow and looking at your individuals rather than how you are functioning as a team. Nice to hear there is a good mood in the camp though, after fleeting visits by superstars rocked the boat last year.
Is it just me, or is the league weaker this year? A few guys not playing, and all the cream seems to be at Wests or Miramar - thus their reserve teams performing admirably in their grades.
It is true that both Wests and Miramar dove into their checkbooks
this season in order to buy another trophie. Not condemming them or
anything, just wanting to make a point that thats why they have
depth.
Olympics lack of depth is a problem and this is ONE reason why
i think we are doing a lot less that what we could achieve. I think
tactics wise we lack, but skill, spirit and drive we have all the
time.
We need to make the right changes at the right times, for
example because of the lack of depth our bench isnt star packed,
and thus our composure and concentration lapses in the final 20mins
(where we concede the most).
If we can get the right people / players in place for next
season you can look for us to compete for the number one spot next
season.
It is true that both Wests and Miramar dove into their checkbooks
this season in order to buy another trophie. Not condemming them or
anything, just wanting to make a point that thats why they have
depth.
Olympics lack of depth is a problem and this is ONE reason why
i think we are doing a lot less that what we could achieve. I think
tactics wise we lack, but skill, spirit and drive we have all the
time.
We need to make the right changes at the right times, for
example because of the lack of depth our bench isnt star packed,
and thus our composure and concentration lapses in the final 20mins
(where we concede the most).
If we can get the right people / players in place for next
season you can look for us to compete for the number one spot next
season.
Who have Miramar thrown their chequebook at? Dicey and
Dominic decided to leave Wellington United and chose to come to
Rangers, without being offered anything. Apart from that, it
is the same team as last year.
I see "throwing your chequebook" as being what the greeks did
last year when they signed Robbo and all the Manawatu players 3/4
of the way throught the season, when they thought they could win
the Chatham Cup.
i think olympic have done well this year considering there fallout
with shane i thought that wasnt the best move getting him i just
think if they get the right coach it could spark some of the
younger greek players, i think this year they have bin lacking in a
few positions but well done to olympic there right up there and in
the hunt
Hi jiz08, well... as for the fall out it was really onesided
and yes "you pay for your mistakes", this year was going to be a
change of tack, and indeed things have started changing ( Long way
to go...), there is a lot more "club feeling' around and hopefully
that will help with changes, yes we have some short comings in some
positions within the squad but ah, no one is perfect...the most
important things is that recently (and under the new coach) the
squad is looking more of a "team" instead of a bunch of
individuals.
Any placing within the top 4 will be great.
Oh come on Chops your getting paid to say that and Raf doesn't play
for nothing. So Olympic is still throwing money round just the same
sign ons match payments etc etc but only on 5 or 6 players.
It's a well known fact the top five clubs in Welly pay The league
positions reflect the spending come year end except Lower Hutt they
always underperform based on the money they spend
Da Boss it only matters at the end of the season what you win
unless your telling me its a social team there for
participation.Aunty helen would love to hear that.
Yia I suppose that winning ,is the measure of your succes, but
that doen't mean that because you came 2nd or 3rd or even 5th, that
you give up....You just keep trying till you reach the top...
" He who dares wins"
Hell, I have to go back 4-5 years for a sign on fee. Yes there are
a few players making a little bit more than others as is the case
with most the teams in the league but at the end of the day
those getting that little bit more ( at Olympic anyway - I
can't answer for others) still play with passion and
pride for the club which is what its all about. You won't see them
swapping clubs when they don't get what they want
You won't see them swapping clubs when they don't get what they
want.............No because no other club can match it chop's and
gee money makes me do things with pride and passion too so work it
out.
And how can you lie straight in bed when you say you have to
go back years for a sign on
Can't match it - we all know Olympic have paid big money in the past but that has stopped. Wests, Hutt, gissy and (Miramar to a lesser degree) are the big spenders and good on them if they want to buy trophies.
And I have no problem lying straight in bed although might
have to move to Wests as I could do with a new one
But it hasn't siopped and you chops know that... and I heard West's
weren't interested in you so you had better start saving
your coin from Olympic for that bed