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Western and Pacific Premierships

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04 Jul 01:46 · edited 09 Sep 06:49
Western and Pacific Premierships
04 Jul 01:47 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Winners of these 2 competitions play each other home and away, with the winner playing the Capital premier winners for CL spot.
 
Standings....
Pacific
POS   TEAM P W D L For Agst GD PTS 1   Geon Taradale Prems 14 10 2 2 53 16 37 32 2   Gisborne Thistle 14 9 3 2 39 24 15 30 3   Ericksen Honda Port Hill United 13 7 4 2 33 21 12 25 4   HBE Napier City 13 7 2 4 35 23 12 23 5   Lockwood Lytton 13 5 5 3 27 27 0 20 6   Cru Bar Maycenvale Premiers 13 5 3 5 33 30 3 18 7   Havelock New World Wanderers 13 5 2 6 24 25 -1 17 8   Western Rangers 14 3 3 8 17 30 -13 12 9   Napier Marist Premiers 13 2 0 11 18 51 -33 6 10   Kingfisher Bar Bohemians 14 1 2 11 18 50 -32 5
 
Western
POS   TEAM P W D L For Agst GD PTS 1   Redsox Manawatu Stewarts Powerbase 1st Team 13 11 0 2 33 13 20 33 2   PNBHS 1st XI 12 9 0 3 37 17 20 27 3   Team Taranaki 13 8 2 3 35 12 23 26 4   HRT Builders Wanganui City 13 8 1 4 29 20 9 25 5   Taradale AFC 13 6 5 2 21 14 7 23 6   North End AFC 1sts Altherm Window Systems 13 6 1 6 21 20 1 19 7   PN Marist Men's 2nds 11 2 2 7 13 26 -13 8 8   Strong Electrical Wanganui Athletic 12 2 2 8 10 25 -15 8 9   Feilding Hotel 1sts 12 2 1 9 12 31 -19 7 10   Levin AFC 1sts 14 2 0 12 13 46 -33 6
04 Jul 01:52 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Can a school team play in CL?
04 Jul 01:58 · edited 09 Sep 06:24

I don't think there is any rule preventing it.  Questions would be asked though - school teams are notoriously up and down as players graduate.

Someone told me Taradale weren't interested so might wave the white flag and Redsox might go straight through to play off against Upper Hutt (or whoever).

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

04 Jul 02:11 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Isnt there a minimum age rule? Could be a problem for a school team
04 Jul 02:14 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Poolfan wrote:
Isnt there a minimum age rule? Could be a problem for a school team
 
I believe under Capital Football's rules you're supposed to be 15 to play "senior" football.  But I don't recall the rule ever being enforced.
 
I also don't think there is a Central League rule about age.
 
Cost would probably be the major factor.  It's not cheap to enter the Central League and the burden of travel on a school team would probably rule it out.
 
Plus, as above, if most of their team is in Year 13, then they may not want to be in Central League next year without those players!

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

04 Jul 02:19 · edited 09 Sep 06:24

PN Girls HS were in wimmins CL last year. Pulled out this year cos they had a few leave school

Founder

04 Jul 02:22 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Feverish wrote:

PN Girls HS were in wimmins CL last year. Pulled out this year cos they had a few leave school

 
Micky mouse much?

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

04 Jul 02:26 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Smithy wrote:
Feverish wrote:

PN Girls HS were in wimmins CL last year. Pulled out this year cos they had a few leave school

 
Micky mouse much?
not so much in wimmins football..

Founder

04 Jul 02:57 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Feverish wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Feverish wrote:

PN Girls HS were in wimmins CL last year. Pulled out this year cos they had a few leave school

 
Micky mouse much?
not so much in wimmins football..
 
I rest my case.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

04 Jul 03:12 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Watched my old club Gisborne Thistle on Saturday, they choked against NCR - losing the league lead. They played terribly by their standards and will now have to beat Taradale along with the rest of their games to have a chance.

Smithy a question for you - if Taradale win but aren't interested does the second placed team in the league get a shot at the play off or does the WP winner just go to the next round automatically?

Also, for anyone who may know - Which Taradale team is the first team and why do they play one in each of the WP and PP?

Fuck this stupid game

04 Jul 03:35 · edited 09 Sep 06:24

e) Pacific and Western Premiership Play-Offs

i. The two top eligible teams (one from each premiership) are able to compete for a Federation League playoff position. The winner of each premiership will go into a home and away play-off to determine the team allowed to play-off for Federation League. If the winners of each league are not eligible or do not wish to enter Federation League then the 2

nd place teams may compete for a position.

ii. Players of the Club taking part in the playoffs are required to be registered players of the club concerned and have been registered for that Club prior to 1

st July of that year.

iii. The play-offs are considered to be an extension of a Club�s season. Therefore, cautions and suspensions will carry over into a playoff series.

iv. After match functions must be provided by the home team for all fixtures in the play off

2ndBest2011-07-04 15:37:52
04 Jul 03:37 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
TopLeft07 wrote:
Watched my old club Gisborne Thistle on Saturday, they choked against NCR - losing the league lead. They played terribly by their standards and will now have to beat Taradale along with the rest of their games to have a chance.

Smithy a question for you - if Taradale win but aren't interested does the second placed team in the league get a shot at the play off or does the WP winner just go to the next round automatically?

Also, for anyone who may know - Which Taradale team is the first team and why do they play one in each of the WP and PP?
 
I have wonder this about this as well.  Seems strange that they are will to fund a 2nd team to travel to New Plymouth, Palmy etc every second week, but aren't keen on the CL.  Unless they have realised this year that it isn't worth the money.
04 Jul 03:40 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Teams need to win their local league to get into CL this year dont they?

Founder

04 Jul 03:47 · edited 09 Sep 06:24

Think that is a Capital Football rule?

04 Jul 03:52 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
2ndBest wrote:


e) Pacific and Western Premiership Play-Offs


i. The two top eligible teams (one from each premiership) are able to compete for a Federation League playoff position. The winner of each premiership will go into a home and away play-off to determine the team allowed to play-off for Federation League. If the winners of each league are not eligible or do not wish to enter Federation League then the 2

nd place teams may compete for a position.

ii. Players of the Club taking part in the playoffs are required to be registered players of the club concerned and have been registered for that Club prior to 1

st July of that year.

iii. The play-offs are considered to be an extension of a Club�s season. Therefore, cautions and suspensions will carry over into a playoff series.


iv. After match functions must be provided by the home team for all fixtures in the play off

I wonder about this because it is talking about Federation League play-offs. This league is no longer, the teams that played in the Federation League split into the WP and the PP a few years back because to many clubs couldn't afford the travel costs. I think it use to be Fed League vs CPL for a shot at the bottom placed CL team. Now it's the winner of WP vs PP who play the CPL for auto promotion to CL. Am I right?

Edit: I say I wonder because it seams to me the regs above are out-dated so something may have had to change since because there is no play off to gain promotion into the now non existent league. TopLeft072011-07-04 15:54:36

Fuck this stupid game

04 Jul 03:54 · edited 09 Sep 06:24

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

04 Jul 03:58 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
I know right... and to think i'm putting my mind through this while on holiday

Fuck this stupid game

04 Jul 03:59 · edited 09 Sep 06:24

 CL regs

 

The following will determine promotion/relegation:

                               

a)    The 1st placed team of the Capital Football Premier League will play-off with the 1st placed team in Central Football, home and away.

 

b)    The winner of the inter-Federation series will automatically be promoted to the CL. The lowest placed team in CL will be automatically relegated.

 

c)    If the 1st placed team from one of the Federation is ineligible, to be promoted then no playoff will take place and the other eligible Federation team will be automatically promoted.

 

d)    If neither 1st place Federation team is eligible to be promoted then no promotion/relegation will take place.

2ndBest2011-07-04 16:00:23
04 Jul 04:01 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
There we go...cheers 2B - means the Jags have to win.

Fuck this stupid game

04 Jul 04:03 · edited 09 Sep 06:24

not quite so clear as there are technically two 1st place teams in Central Football.

04 Jul 04:03 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
2ndBest wrote:

Think that is a Capital Football rule?

CL rule (well it was meant to be - usually a 3yr lag before Regs are updated)

Founder

04 Jul 04:06 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
2ndBest wrote:

not quite so clear as there are technically two 1st place teams in Central Football.

True, I read that as each federation being WP and PP. Mind f**k.

Fuck this stupid game

04 Jul 04:06 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
TopLeft07 wrote:
There we go...cheers 2B - means the Jags have to win.
 
Putting all of this together the way I figure it the two winners of the two Central Football premierships earn the right to play off to be the Top Dog in Central Football.  If one of the two winners doesn't want to or can't compete then the second placed team in that league can enter the playoff for Top Dog instead.  So, amusingly, we could have a situation where the two second placed teams in the two Central Football premierships are playing off to be Top Dog.
 
Top Dog then plays off against Upper Hutt (or whoever).
 
Winner goes into Central League.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

04 Jul 04:08 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Smithy wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
There we go...cheers 2B - means the Jags have to win.
 
Putting all of this together the way I figure it the two winners of the two Central Football premierships earn the right to play off to be the Top Dog in Central Football.  If one of the two winners doesn't want to or can't compete then the second placed team in that league can enter the playoff for Top Dog instead.  So, amusingly, we could have a situation where the two second placed teams in the two Central Football premierships are playing off to be Top Dog.
 
Top Dog then plays off against Upper Hutt (or whoever).
 
Winner goes into Central League.
Yeah that is how I read it too.
 
Or even better still, you could have the two runners up in Central playing off for a CL place if Miramar get up to win the Champs Premier.
04 Jul 04:13 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Smithy wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
There we go...cheers 2B - means the Jags have to win.


�

Putting all of this together the way I figure it the two winners of the two Central Football premierships earn the right to play off to be the Top Dog in Central Football.� If one of the two winners doesn't want to or can't compete then the second placed team in that league can enter the playoff for Top Dog instead.� So, amusingly, we could have a situation where the two second placed teams in the two Central Football premierships are playing off to be Top Dog.

�

Top Dog then plays off against Upper Hutt (or whoever).

�

Winner goes into Central League.
Yeah that makes sense to me....but I wonder if they could just say that if a team is not interested in the play off they default and the other Premiership winner is, by default, the Top Dog in Central. Seams there is nothing clear enough in the regs to give us that answer. TopLeft072011-07-04 16:14:02

Fuck this stupid game

04 Jul 04:15 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
hmm not what it was designed for. A team would have to win their league. Gets a bit blurred in the attempted working

Founder

04 Jul 04:15 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Apart from anything else I think it would be much more fun if the Central Football playoff participant was referred to in the regulations as "Top Dog".

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

04 Jul 04:16 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Feverish wrote:
hmm not what it was designed for. A team would have to win their league. Gets a bit blurred in the attempted working
 
When you say it "gets a bit blurred" you mean that the rules are completely incorrect and not at all what was intended?

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

04 Jul 04:26 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Clearly (if there is anything clear here) naming rights in the central region are a lucrative gig...TopLeft072011-07-04 16:30:27

Fuck this stupid game

04 Jul 04:26 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
well 1st placed team in Central Football is a bit ambiguous

Founder

04 Jul 04:35 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
TopLeft07 wrote:
Clearly (if there is anything clear here) naming rights in the central region are a lucrative gig...
 
And we can also definitely say that there is a killing to be made for some branding consultant to go up there and sort out some of the terrible names their pubs and businesses have.
 
Cru Bar?  Give me a break!

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

04 Jul 04:43 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Smithy wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
Clearly (if there is anything clear here) naming rights in the central region are a lucrative gig...



�
And we can also definitely say that there is a killing to be made for some branding consultant to go up there and sort out some of the terrible names their pubs and businesses have.

�

Cru Bar?� Give me a break!
The newest bar in town here...wait for it... "Shipwreck"

Fuck this stupid game

04 Jul 04:44 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
TopLeft07 wrote:
Smithy wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
Clearly (if there is anything clear here) naming rights in the central region are a lucrative gig...



 
And we can also definitely say that there is a killing to be made for some branding consultant to go up there and sort out some of the terrible names their pubs and businesses have.

 

Cru Bar?  Give me a break!
The newest bar in town here...wait for it... "Shipwreck"
 
Should sponsor Wellington United really...

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

04 Jul 04:46 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Smithy wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
Smithy wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
Clearly (if there is anything clear here) naming rights in the central region are a lucrative gig...

�
And we can also definitely say that there is a killing to be made for some branding consultant to go up there and sort out some of the terrible names their pubs and businesses have.

Cru Bar?� Give me a break!
The newest bar in town here...wait for it... "Shipwreck"

Should sponsor Wellington United really...
Get lost. How I didn't see that coming...

Fuck this stupid game

04 Jul 05:42 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
2ndBest wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
Watched my old club Gisborne Thistle on Saturday, they choked against NCR - losing the league lead. They played terribly by their standards and will now have to beat Taradale along with the rest of their games to have a chance. Smithy a question for you - if Taradale win but aren't interested does the second placed team in the league get a shot at the play off or does the WP winner just go to the next round automatically? Also, for anyone who may know - Which Taradale team is the first team and why do they play one in each of the WP and PP?

I have wonder this about this as well.� Seems strange that they are will to fund a 2nd team to travel to New Plymouth, Palmy etc every second week, but aren't keen on the CL.� Unless they have realised this year that it isn't worth the money.

A mate in the know reckons the Western Prem team is officially the first team but the Pacific team is arguably better. The PP team consists of really good old players who didn't want to travel as much but don't want to play utterly sh*t local football. Quite an odd situation but I guess another similar example would be Karori Dreamers when they passed their club's seconds into Cap1 with a bunch of good old players.

Fuck this stupid game

21 Jul 00:23 · edited 09 Sep 06:24

POS

 

TEAM

P

W

D

L

For

Agst

GD

PTS

1

 

Geon Taradale Prems

16

12

2

2

58

19

39

38

2

 

Gisborne Thistle

16

10

3

3

43

28

15

33

3

 

HBE Napier City

15

9

2

4

41

25

16

29

4

 

Ericksen Honda Port Hill United

15

8

4

3

35

23

12

28

5

 

Lockwood Lytton

15

6

5

4

32

29

3

23

6

 

Cru Bar Maycenvale Premiers

15

6

3

6

35

32

3

21

7

 

Havelock New World Wanderers

15

6

3

6

26

26

0

21

8

 

Western Rangers

16

3

3

10

17

32

-15

12

9

 

Kingfisher Bar Bohemians

16

1

3

12

19

52

-33

6

10

 

Napier Marist Premiers

15

2

0

13

19

59

-40

6

2ndBest2011-07-21 12:25:10
21 Jul 00:25 · edited 09 Sep 06:24

POS

 

TEAM

P

W

D

L

For

Agst

GD

PTS

1

 

Redsox Manawatu Stewarts Powerbase 1st Team

15

13

0

2

39

14

25

39

2

 

HRT Builders Wanganui City

15

10

1

4

34

21

13

31

3

 

PNBHS 1st XI

14

10

0

4

40

21

19

30

4

 

Team Taranaki

15

8

2

5

37

17

20

26

5

 

Taradale AFC

15

7

5

3

24

19

5

26

6

 

North End AFC 1sts Altherm Window Systems

15

7

1

7

25

22

3

22

7

 

Feilding Hotel 1sts

14

4

1

9

17

32

-15

13

8

 

Strong Electrical Wanganui Athletic

15

3

3

9

15

29

-14

12

9

 

PN Marist Men's 2nds

14

2

2

10

14

34

-20

8

10

 

Levin AFC 1sts

16

2

1

13

14

50

-36

7

21 Jul 00:26 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Redsox to play against Capital Premier winners....
 

Football: Taradale can't have everything

ANENDRA SINGH - Sports Editor | 21st July 2011  

http://www.hawkesbaytoday.co.nz/sport/news/football-taradale-cant-have-everything/3960234/

Taradale Football Club cannot have two bites of the cherry.

That's the verdict of Central Football eastern district manager Phil Holt.

Clarifying the promotion/relegation scenario, Holt emphasised Taradale club's Pacific Premiership team will not be challenging Western Premiership leaders and impending winners Red Sox Manawatu at the end of this season for the right to enter the premier winter league, the Central League, next season.

The Napier club already has a team in the Western Premiership, the Jamie Hall-coached Taradale AFC, who are sitting precariously in fifth place.

The premiership team, who have co-coaches Warren Gilbertson and Robbie Parker, boast elite players such as Hawke's Bay United assistant coach/player Chris McIvor and former National League player Perry Cotton, to name a few.

"At the end of the day no club can have two bites at the cherry," Holt said after a report in Hawke's Bay Today on Monday raising hopes of a third Bay team in the Central League competition.

Instead, Red Sox will play-off against the winners of the Capital division one champions to determine who will go up automatically next winter.

Gilbertson accepted his troops were a feeder team to Hall's Western Premiership outfit.

"If that's the way it is then that's how it is," he said, adding his team were now focusing on the Hawke's Bay Knockout Cup quarterfinals.

21 Jul 00:27 · edited 09 Sep 06:24
Wonder if Taradale were told that before the season.