What ever happened to...?

 

    Around the time I started playing senior footy,Stop Out  had a young fellow Robbie ten Brooke making waves.I think he may've even played for NZ(not sure) Ii seem to recall he mighty've even gone to Holland to try his luck there...Last I heard was he was in NZ but never heard about him playing again,certainly not at a high level.Anyone  fill in some spaces?

 

 

 

 

Tom Winter stuck with the employer he left school to work for, NZIG, now known as BOCGAS.After holding senior positions in NZ was transferred to Canada where he has apparently done very well.

Glenn is still in Wellington, working in the financial credit industry.

 

Villageboy. I asked if you knew Mel Spelling who played at Petone with Clive Davis. Your connection with Clive obviously comes from his time at Stopout where he went to for the first season of National League. (1970). Mel played in the same team as Clive at Petone before going to Wharfies.

 

I recall seeing a photo of the Wharfies team in 1970 and they had 9 players, the manager and coach who had all been at  Petone the previous season. Good old Tom Heenan. RIP.

 

John recently retired as President at Petone, but still attends the games.

 

As you say, part of the fun of participating on this site is the annonimity. My knowledge of happenings at Petone and the fondness of Claret and Blue probably make me a bit of a giveaway to anyone who knows me through football, but you cant lie about loyalty. 

 

Anyway, Villageboy, Here is a real did you know...

 

In one of your earlier postings you mentioned how Jim McCreadie was a real Stopout person.

Well for all his rivalry with the club across the river, he actually wanted to play for Petone when he first arrived, but couldnt get a game.

He had come down to Petone Rec when he arrived in NZ in about 1952, and being a good Rangers man, chose the blue jersies as his favourite. (Not that he would now admit it). Unfortunately he stood on the sideline with his boots, unnoticed by the coach, one Andy Leslie senior. The rest,  they say, is history.

 

Wanganui I think it was. He is now back down here and involved in the Petone Rugby Club.

In fact he was the spokesman on a club feature on tv a while back. His son plays for the team and I think has represented NZ at schoolboy level. Wayne was an Under 19 rep at left fullback in the days of Glen Dodds.

 

I recall a few people trying to keep GT in line. Eddie Phelan, Steve Dunn and Wayne all tried the physical approach, whilst Peter Dunn, myself and Bruce Hilder (Railways) all used a more diplomatic aproach. Personally at the end of the day, he wasnt really too troublesome and I still enjoy a chat and a beer with him on the odd occassion we bump into eachother. As for football, if only he had the opportunity that the young players have now to get over to the UK. And would Gordon Strattan have handled him in Spain if he hadnt got injured? Better than Rufer??

 

Ha, no sh*t. 

 

I worked for BOC in Australia and Europe for five years until returning recently to work full time for Yellow Fever (yeah, right).  I knew Tom reasonably well.  He is very senior in (may even be head of) BOC's Canadian business and well regarded around the world.

 

You could almost certainly reach him at tom.winter@boc.com or tom.winter@linde.com

 

 

 yea   Jones and 'Pedro' (he was a jewellary manufacturer) went to Stop Out and Bilby to Wellington City(or Hungaria firstly), but they were internationals while at Seatoun.

 

Vic was involved with Waterside, working on the wharf as they all did in those days. (The unofficial boot suppliers to Welington Football). He lived in Melrose behind the zoo before moving to Auckland. He died about 10 years ago. Cancer I think.

 

I think things might be slightly different regarding the publications. Vic wrote two books, one about the Central League first ten years and a similar book about the National League.

Barry Smith was the editor of the Football (Soccer) Annual although maybe Vic did take it over. I had all of them since 1967, the season before Central League started, and had several requests from players about their appearance numbers. I handed them into the club I was involved with once I moved away.

What club were you involved with down here AS?

   Thanks for the stuff about Mr deverill.I most probably are wrong about him compiling them but I do recall that I had to order all the back copies I wanted from him.

I think Barry is in Auckland now. The first year of Central League in 1968, was poorly recorded, especially the second division. I seem to remember Seatoun won the second division in 68 scoring about 150 goals from 18 games. St Andrews and Lansdowne got thumped weekly. Petone finished third with 75 goals. That was when Clive Davis was playing.

Massey and Manawatu had a bloke Terry Richardson playing for them around that time. Fullback.

As mentioned previously seatoun probably had three NZ players in that league that season.

Brings back memories of watching two CL games a Saturday at the Basin - early game on No 2 and main game on No 1.

Wharfies supporters were pretty hard core.

Don't think that your memories of Miramar - Hungaria are accurate as Hungaria never won CL. Might have been a Miramar - wharfies game.

If you were a junior at Seatoun in the mid to late 60's you probably played against me as I was at Miramar then.

On another subject the mention of Hungaria in another thread brings back great memories - particularly Lotsy Polyanskys penalties - a zig zag approach to the ball that probably had the keeper dizzy.

 

He was also telling me about a legendary riot that occurred at a Hungaria v Apollon match many years ago when the referee, whose name was Maurie Swain (or something similar), was forced to lock himself in the changing shed to escape from the rampaging players and fans of both teams. Apparently this was such an ugly incident that the Apollon club was disbanded shortly after, or at least restructured anyway, later to re-emerge as the more genteel CYFC (Christian Youth FC).

 

I leave it to someone else to confirm the accuracy of this story!

Remember well the windswept games on Seatoun Park

 Did you go to Evans Bay Intermediate?

He was also telling me about a legendary riot that occurred at a Hungaria v Apollon match many years ago when the referee, whose name was Maurie Swain (or something similar), was forced to lock himself in the changing shed to escape from the rampaging players and fans of both teams. Apparently this was such an ugly incident that the Apollon club was disbanded shortly after, or at least restructured anyway, later to re-emerge as the more genteel CYFC (Christian Youth FC).

 

I leave it to someone else to confirm the accuracy of this story!

 

Actually the game was against Miramar and played at Memorial Park. I watched in amazement. There had already been one Hungarian sent off, Beck I think, and then Swain sent Joseph Gaal off but he refused to go. He took the whistle off the referee and walked around for a shorttime blowing it.

Eventually a Police escort got Swain out of the ground. One of the memories of that game was the Hungarian keeper, Paul Watkins. A fairly cool customer in those days, he conceeded a goal and his biggest worry was that he had lost his chewing gum in the dive!!!!

The game was replayed at the Basin. Jim Zalumious was referree. He gave Hungaria a penalty, which was rather charitable. The Hungarians were not interested in charity and Lotzy sent the ball in the direction of the corner flag. I have a picture that I took of him taking the kick. He was told to retake it so he went for the opposite corner.

Hungaria went on to win 3 - 0. Thanks for reigniting this memory.

 

Your memories of Apollo becoming CYFC are correct, and then , of course, Olympic.