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Fury - Not our Future

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=50541

Such a shame, should have pulled plug on GCU instead.

Get Williams Nix!
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Rather Beau Busch tbh.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
+1 on signing Williams

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Gutted for Fury fans.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oxymoronic thread sadly.

IBTL.
E + R + O

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Williams is in Syd for the ACL - would be surprised if he doesn't now stay there (unless he wants to head back to Brissy).
E + R + O

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
SurgeQld wrote:
Oxymoronic thread sadly.

IBTL.

Fixed.
 
Zonk.  Just make sure you don't wear Phoenix colours while you offer them sympathy.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Oh and Mark Hughes... Dura - Siggy - Hughes as a rotation ftw.


BOOM!


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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Zonk.  Just make sure you don't wear Phoenix colours while you offer them sympathy.


Point taken, and i'm trying to think this won't be our fate in a few things...
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Peter Pan warned us about this years ago.
 
"Every time the FFA says, 'I don't believe in Fury,' there is a football club somewhere that falls down dead"
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Just think about all that money the FFA took from finals takings, dollar that we as supporters directly put in ourselves, how many times could they have bailed out the Fury with that?
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Reading the comments on 4-4-2, Diego's Son again using the opportunity to stick a knife into the Nix.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
AJ13 wrote:
Just think about all that money the FFA took from finals takings, dollar that we as supporters directly put in ourselves, how many times could they have bailed out the Fury with that?
Yeah they dont have other costs to cover
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Goodnight sweet prince.

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
AJ13 wrote:
Just think about all that money the FFA took from finals takings, dollar that we as supporters directly put in ourselves, how many times could they have bailed out the Fury with that?

What is really the point? Personally, I don't think the A-League has the right to take the gate from the playoff games. North Queensland was clearly not sustainable as a soccer club. Giving them money or bailing them out would simply just delay the inevitable.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
No A-League club is sustainable as a football club. 

There have been a maximum of two or three clubs show a profit in one season during the six years fo the leagues existance.  It's the model that is wrong, not the Fury.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I feel sorry for their fans. A pity that the A League will more than likely lose Straka too.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
threat wrote:
AJ13 wrote:
Just think about all that money the FFA took from finals takings, dollar that we as supporters directly put in ourselves, how many times could they have bailed out the Fury with that?
[/QUOTE] Yeah they dont have other costs to cover[/QUOTE]
What you mean like that $40m monstrosity they flushed down the toilet in attempt to host the WC? FFA are idiots.

[QUOTE=William] [QUOTE=AJ13] Just think about all that money the FFA took from finals takings, dollar that we as supporters directly put in ourselves, how many times could they have bailed out the Fury with that?

What is really the point? Personally, I don't think the A-League has the right to take the gate from the playoff games. North Queensland was clearly not sustainable as a soccer club. Giving them money or bailing them out would simply just delay the inevitable.

From what Ive read FFA havnt even given the Fury a chance in regard to this sponsorship deal which will provide funding across multiple seasons.

Wait a minute, we're not sustainable either... our financial situation is probably worse than theres
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Any Foxsports FC streams about?  Could be an interesting show tonight.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Stevo wrote:
Any Foxsports FC streams about?� Could be an interesting show tonight.


Sadly it is quite hard to find live t.v shows like that around, will look though, when is it our time?

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Cheers.  10pm.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I really do miss Fury12

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Stevo wrote:
Cheers.� 10pm.


Can only find offline streams atm, chances are they've been offline for months, maybe years, looks like we're out of luck.

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
on the 4-4-2 podcast they said that apparently the FFA have put 9m AUD into the Fury, as well as the 5m from matheson meaning they have lost 14m in 2 years - the 1.5m raised is a long way off a sustainable model...

Normo's coming home

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
although it all seems to be kicking off on what they have raised and what they needed to raise and from where!

Normo's coming home

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Knew all this over aggressive expansion would come back and bite them.
 
Hopefully its lesson learned.

Allegedly

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Would've been fine if the FFA wasn't run by a bunch of AFL muppets tbh

a.haak

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Poor Furries.

Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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over 13 years ago

 2017??

Jeez, there's an old Italian saying that goes something like this: "keep living, horse - 'cause grass keeps growing"

I think it applies quite nicely here.


VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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about 12 years ago

It didn't work last time because the population was too small. Nothing has changed in the meantime. The Fury could probably get good crowds if they had a good team for a few seasons but long term they are always inevitably going to struggle.

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about 12 years ago
Ryan54 wrote:

It didn't work last time because the population was too small. Nothing has changed in the meantime. The Fury could probably get good crowds if they had a good team for a few seasons but long term they are always inevitably going to struggle.



If the population was too small why does the NRL have the Qld Cowboys?

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 12 years ago
Leggy wrote:
Ryan54 wrote:

It didn't work last time because the population was too small. Nothing has changed in the meantime. The Fury could probably get good crowds if they had a good team for a few seasons but long term they are always inevitably going to struggle.



If the population was too small why does the NRL have the Qld Cowboys?


The population was too small to sustain an A-League team. Rugby league is far bigger than soccer in Townsville (as far as I know) and the Cowboys don't get great crowds. Central Coast are from a slightly bigger area but have been the most successful team in the history of the A-League (I think by competition points) and are close to a much bigger population base which gives them 3 local rivalries. Geelong can compete in the AFL probably because they are fanatical and they have local rivalries.

I think you are very optimistic if you think Townsville can sustain a team which can average 10,000 long term. 10,000 seems to be the magic crowd number and below that you need someone to fund you. Not sure how many of those exist in Townsville.
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Ryan54 wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Ryan54 wrote:

It didn't work last time because the population was too small. Nothing has changed in the meantime. The Fury could probably get good crowds if they had a good team for a few seasons but long term they are always inevitably going to struggle.



If the population was too small why does the NRL have the Qld Cowboys?


The population was too small to sustain an A-League team. Rugby league is far bigger than soccer in Townsville (as far as I know) and the Cowboys don't get great crowds. Central Coast are from a slightly bigger area but have been the most successful team in the history of the A-League (I think by competition points) and are close to a much bigger population base which gives them 3 local rivalries. Geelong can compete in the AFL probably because they are fanatical and they have local rivalries.

I think you are very optimistic if you think Townsville can sustain a team which can average 10,000 long term. 10,000 seems to be the magic crowd number and below that you need someone to fund you. Not sure how many of those exist in Townsville.


That is my view also. You would get better luck inviting a Wollongong team to join A-League (the Wolves were a club with good history and strong community roots, plus successful on the park in the old NSL). South Coast of NSW is as strong as the Central Coast in terms of youth development. A similar case can be made for Canberra.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 12 years ago
Ryan54 wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Ryan54 wrote:

It didn't work last time because the population was too small. Nothing has changed in the meantime. The Fury could probably get good crowds if they had a good team for a few seasons but long term they are always inevitably going to struggle.



If the population was too small why does the NRL have the Qld Cowboys?


The population was too small to sustain an A-League team. Rugby league is far bigger than soccer in Townsville (as far as I know) and the Cowboys don't get great crowds. Central Coast are from a slightly bigger area but have been the most successful team in the history of the A-League (I think by competition points) and are close to a much bigger population base which gives them 3 local rivalries. Geelong can compete in the AFL probably because they are fanatical and they have local rivalries.

I think you are very optimistic if you think Townsville can sustain a team which can average 10,000 long term. 10,000 seems to be the magic crowd number and below that you need someone to fund you. Not sure how many of those exist in Townsville.


The Cowboys  got from 9000 to 19000 depending on who they were playing last year.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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