Don't recall a clamour, from here, fo. sign any of them.
Thats because many of their best players were released by A-League clubs specifically so they could join the Wanderers. No much point clamoring over a player who is still contracted.
Edit: RR already said this. Serves me right for not reading further down the thread before replying.
Not playing for Brisbane roar = an average player, to leggy. And HN thinks most Australians are donkeys!
Ok. Lets play this out a little for the sake of devils advocate. The Phoenix fans march to the stadium. A bunch, whom are not YF posters, start terrorising the Wellington locals.
What do you think the reactions of the club, YF exec, the posters on here and also their actions in seeing this, would be?
I got a bit of cash that says you, me, Patrick, Term and other regulars would denounce it, and if the police were involved, finger the people that did it. It would be momentarily asked/speculated 'Did the YF cause this?' of which the answer would be no because we don't organise marches, protests or anything that's not I guess 'friendly' or detracts from the image of the Wellington Phoenix.
Call it namby pamby but that's the difference between us and them. They can say 'They have nothing to do with us' but again, when those people got banned for lighting the flares and said 'Its not them, you got the wrong guys', they were not offering up the guilty parties as they knew EXACTLY who they were.
One of the things that happens when you form an official supporters group, is that by association, you end up taking on board the responsibilities for the actions of those that are not tied into that official group. Why? Because public perception lumps everyone in together as a supporter of that team here. That may well be the case with the RBB, but I don't see them being proactive about it other than 'well its not us'.
I'd also add to this, I don't see many people going 'Ooohhh I hope WSW win this weekend to complete the fairy tale' because from what I can tell, most people think their fans are tossers and thus, tars the image of the club and are knobs by association. People would rather see CCM win (also Wee Mac factor as well)
Ok. Lets play this out a little for the sake of devils advocate. The Phoenix fans march to the stadium. A bunch, whom are not YF posters, start terrorising the Wellington locals.
What do you think the reactions of the club, YF exec, the posters on here and also their actions in seeing this, would be?
I got a bit of cash that says you, me, Patrick, Term and other regulars would denounce it, and if the police were involved, finger the people that did it. It would be momentarily asked/speculated 'Did the YF cause this?' of which the answer would be no because we don't organise marches, protests or anything that's not I guess 'friendly' or detracts from the image of the Wellington Phoenix.
Call it namby pamby but that's the difference between us and them. They can say 'They have nothing to do with us' but again, when those people got banned for lighting the flares and said 'Its not them, you got the wrong guys', they were not offering up the guilty parties as they knew EXACTLY who they were.
One of the things that happens when you form an official supporters group, is that by association, you end up taking on board the responsibilities for the actions of those that are not tied into that official group. Why? Because public perception lumps everyone in together as a supporter of that team here. That may well be the case with the RBB, but I don't see them being proactive about it other than 'well its not us'.
I'd also add to this, I don't see many people going 'Ooohhh I hope WSW win this weekend to complete the fairy tale' because from what I can tell, most people think their fans are tossers and thus, tars the image of the club and are knobs by association. People would rather see CCM win (also Wee Mac factor as well)
Met a nice young lady from Western Sydney tonight, and I learnt from a friend that she is a member of the RBB and a huge WSW fan. I opened the conversation with her with "So I hear you are a Wanderers supporter. I really can't stand the RBB".
That went well.
Met a nice young lady from Western Sydney tonight, and I learnt from a friend that she is a member of the RBB and a huge WSW fan. I opened the conversation with her with "So I hear you are a Wanderers supporter. I really can't stand the RBB".
That went well.
Don't recall a clamour, from here, fo. sign any of them.
Thats because many of their best players were released by A-League clubs specifically so they could join the Wanderers. No much point clamoring over a player who is still contracted.
Edit: RR already said this. Serves me right for not reading further down the thread before replying.
Met a nice young lady from Western Sydney tonight, and I learnt from a friend that she is a member of the RBB and a huge WSW fan. I opened the conversation with her with "So I hear you are a Wanderers supporter. I really can't stand the RBB".
That went well.
Don't recall a clamour, from here, fo. sign any of them.
Thats because many of their best players were released by A-League clubs specifically so they could join the Wanderers. No much point clamoring over a player who is still contracted.
Edit: RR already said this. Serves me right for not reading further down the thread before replying.
The stadium holds 20,700 but the Wanderers and Chedid are pushing for a major redevelopment that will raise the capacity to at least 35,000.
“We need to get that venue to about 35,000 with far more sophisticated corporate facilities, far better access in terms of parking, far better for food and beverage concession areas that minimise queues and make the game day experience truly comfortable,” Gorman said.
“There's no doubt that next year or the year after, we'll outgrow this one."
Only the Victory averages over 20k fans. They averaged 12.5k. Part of the reason for the atmosphere they have, is that they are in an appropriate sized stadium. Why on earth would you want to make it bigger, when you are not consistently selling out.
Wanderers regular season home crowds this season.
Rnd 1. 10458 v CCM
3. 19126 v Sydney
5. 8075 v Heart
6. 9011 v Jets
8. 9614 v Victory
10. 6755 v Roar
12. 9056 v Adelaide
14. 13659 v Victory
15. 16387 v CCM
18. 14624 v Heart
20. 10589 v Jets
22. 11772 v Perth
24. 15809 v Phoenix
26. 19585 v Sydney
This is the Minor Premiers. Two sell-out Sydney derbies. Next two biggest attendances 16387 v CCM and 15809 v Phoenix.
Lyall Gorman is dreaming if he thinks he needs a 35,000 stadium. He needs to wait a couple of seasons at least before making that call.
They would sell out 35k for the Sydney Derby, but wouldn't get close for any other game. Much better to make the derby scarce, in a smaller stadium. Means people have to buy season passes if they want to go to the game.
The idea they will average over 20k in the next couple seasons is insane.
Interestingly not that much better than us early on, which also happens to have been when they were struggling.
Interestingly not that much better than us early on, which also happens to have been when they were struggling.
Visconte's team has made 3 GF in the last 3 years, who wants to sign him for a lucky charm?
Visconte's team has made 3 GF in the last 3 years, who wants to sign him for a lucky charm?
Oops wrote this elsewhere. I like the idea of Visconte. Could cover Ifill?
Hmmm. There's a reason Visconte didn't play much football at Roar and WSW...
The 22-year-old joins the Wanderers after completing a short-term stint with Adelaide United, having recently returned to Australia after five years of playing abroad in Croatia.
I'll give you $2.50 for it
I'll give you $2.50 for it
I hope the FFA will not give them an extra import slot this season.
(I'm assuming that's why Dino Kresinger was released).
I hope the FFA will not give them an extra import slot this season.
(I'm assuming that's why Dino Kresinger was released).
I hope the FFA will not give them an extra import slot this season.
(I'm assuming that's why Dino Kresinger was released).
I hope the FFA will not give them an extra import slot this season.
(I'm assuming that's why Dino Kresinger was released).
Yep, Kresinger was released because he was shit, not because he taking up a valuable import slot.
Seems apart from the usual flare issue, there was a issue with the RBB being put into a part of the ground that was inappropriate for their numbers and level of support. But somehow it is the FFA's fault ...
Colour me shocked. With them, its always someone elses fault.
Colour me shocked. With them, its always someone elses fault.
So whose fault was the issue outlined in the blog? Seems to be completely the FFA's fault.
Really don't get the hate for the RBB (or whatever they are called) on here. It seems like they are pretty much everything we strive to be - packed, loud, enthusiastic. A few of them are a bit fuck-witty, but I am sure some of the other supporters groups that we get on with (or at least tolerate) have the same element, including ourselves. Is it perhaps a little jealousy?
FFA as owners and event organises are the "Buck Stops Here People".
Jealous of being a fuckwit? Oh absolutely...
Lets make some assumptions for a moment and please feel free to poke holes in my logic
1: That ground has been used in a sports capacity before
2: Tickets have been sold to that ground before
3: Thus, capacity for that area is known and thus the correct amount of tickets were sold for that area
4: Being a preseason game, I am sure Ticketek or whomever were going 'yep this will be a sellout, lets cram them in and milk this cow for all its got'
5: Did security say 'hey, every one get up, stand up and all crush each other?' Nope, that would be their (was it 'fuckwitty'?) spectators
6: What are 6 or 7 security guys going to do against a mob?
7: Its easy to say "what would happen in the event of an emergency requiring an evacuation and/or the movement of people from one section to another" and put the blame back on others but again, refer to point 5.
8: Granted if an emergency did happen, they only have to look inwards as they are the fuckwits causing the issue of crushing. If they stood like normal supporters and I don't hear of issues at Old Trafford with there 70k fans and crushing (and lets point any other teams, AFL... EPL teams) then there would not be an issue. But its someone elses fault right?
9: If Big John Studd security came along and said 'excuse me, some of you have to move on to another area' do you think they'll go 'yeah mate no worries'. Go stand in the corner by yourself if you think that will happen.
If you think this is bollocks, please tell me so and why. Otherwise, yes, they are pack of fuckwits. Jealous? Oh absolutely...
Which ground are you talking about JV?
And to clarify, I was talking about the general attitude to them "on here", as opposed to specifically digging at you (and well done on the 9 point response - let me know if it is still relevant and I will give it a read further than point 1). Every time I have seen Wanderers on TV I have thought "wow, there fans are great. I wish the YF was like that", yet every time I have seen any comment about them ON HERE (I cannot get the bold to work and I wanted to make sure it was seen) it seems to just be slagging them off
Colour me shocked. With them, its always someone elses fault.
So whose fault was the issue outlined in the blog? Seems to be completely the FFA's fault.
Really don't get the hate for the RBB (or whatever they are called) on here. It seems like they are pretty much everything we strive to be - packed, loud, enthusiastic. A few of them are a bit fuck-witty, but I am sure some of the other supporters groups that we get on with (or at least tolerate) have the same element, including ourselves. Is it perhaps a little jealousy?
Colour me shocked. With them, its always someone elses fault.
So whose fault was the issue outlined in the blog? Seems to be completely the FFA's fault.
Really don't get the hate for the RBB (or whatever they are called) on here. It seems like they are pretty much everything we strive to be - packed, loud, enthusiastic. A few of them are a bit fuck-witty, but I am sure some of the other supporters groups that we get on with (or at least tolerate) have the same element, including ourselves. Is it perhaps a little jealousy?
just had a quick look at the thread for last nights game....
RBB?
Moaning?
Self-entitled?
Noooooo
Colour me shocked. With them, its always someone elses fault.
So whose fault was the issue outlined in the blog? Seems to be completely the FFA's fault.
Really don't get the hate for the RBB (or whatever they are called) on here. It seems like they are pretty much everything we strive to be - packed, loud, enthusiastic. A few of them are a bit fuck-witty, but I am sure some of the other supporters groups that we get on with (or at least tolerate) have the same element, including ourselves. Is it perhaps a little jealousy?
valid point. I still think it is wrong to cunt off the fans about it though.
Which ground are you talking about JV?
And to clarify, I was talking about the general attitude to them "on here", as opposed to specifically digging at you (and well done on the 9 point response - let me know if it is still relevant and I will give it a read further than point 1). Every time I have seen Wanderers on TV I have thought "wow, there fans are great. I wish the YF was like that", yet every time I have seen any comment about them ON HERE (I cannot get the bold to work and I wanted to make sure it was seen) it seems to just be slagging them off
I was thinking about this earlier. I think there has been one incident in 7 years where there was bottle throwing in the YF zone. How many incidents have they had in their 1 season, but each and every time, it's never their fault. Again, 70k fans at old Trafford, how many incidents do they get? We are not talking about isolated incidents, we are talking about continued repeated behaviour. The GF, they trashed the chairs and that was their last game... But it's never their fault.
I totally get what you are saying about atmosphere and if we had that, then fantastic. They have that atmosphere but it's full of cunts. So do we want that? Hell no. 1 or 2 does not deservedly tar them all but they do this each and very game. It's not 1 or 2, it's a hell of a lot of them and as much as the people that run the RBB cry foul and blame anyone also, they never say to their fans 'hey, we should tone this down'. I've read their forum and some of it is just militant call to arms to fight the power.
I can fully understand how you may well be over the complaining or the attitude of posters on here to them. By the same token, more than a few are over their shit
Colour me shocked. With them, its always someone elses fault.
So whose fault was the issue outlined in the blog? Seems to be completely the FFA's fault.
Really don't get the hate for the RBB (or whatever they are called) on here. It seems like they are pretty much everything we strive to be - packed, loud, enthusiastic. A few of them are a bit fuck-witty, but I am sure some of the other supporters groups that we get on with (or at least tolerate) have the same element, including ourselves. Is it perhaps a little jealousy?
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