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Posted January 08, 2024 23:54 · last edited January 09, 2024 01:26

Marto
if Eden Park ends up being the preferred choice, why not do a Cardiff Arms Park/Millennium Stadium. 

Flatten the place completely, build a decent stadium and make Eden Park 2 a lble to host cricket and other smaller (sub 10k) events in a decent small stadium which is all that Cardiff Arms Park is now.

If Wales can do it with it's small population, Auckland and NZ must be able to, too.

That sort of scenario - a 50,000 seater National Stadium, alongside a smaller say 15K ground does make some sense. For Auckland anyway. I've always thought EP no 2 would make a nice boutique football/rugby ground.

Significant difference with Wales, is every concert, or national sports event is held at the Millenium Stadium (MS). Like both the Welsh rugby & football teams play ALL their games there?? So I'm guessing with concerts etc, the MS hosts nearly 30-50 packed events per year? There isn't a Welsh Helen Clark, limiting them to 6 concerts per annum.

NZ's larger in size (and 2 islands), where in Wales you can drive to Cardiff from anywhere in a few hours. NZ we tend to spread events, and national team games around the country. They ain't all in Auckland. Basically for the owners of MS, it's easier to make a buck compared to Eden Park. From memory I read somewhere that for an expensive new stadium of around 50,000 to likely break even running cost wise, it needs min 40 events per year. That's EP's problem if concerts are limited to max 6 per year.

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Unknown editor edited January 09, 2024 01:26
Marto
if Eden Park ends up being the preferred choice, why not do a Cardiff Arms Park/Millennium Stadium. 

Flatten the place completely, build a decent stadium and make Eden Park 2 a lble to host cricket and other smaller (sub 10k) events in a decent small stadium which is all that Cardiff Arms Park is now.

If Wales can do it with it's small population, Auckland and NZ must be able to, too.

That sort of scenario - a 50,000 seater National Stadium, alongside a smaller say 15K ground does make some sense. For Auckland anyway. I've always thought EP no 2 would make a nice boutique football/rugby ground.

Significant difference with Wales, is every concert, or national sports event is held at the Millenium Stadium (MS). Like both the Welsh rugby & football teams play ALL their games there?? So I'm guessing with concerts etc, the MS hosts nearly 30-50 packed events per year? There isn't a Welsh Helen Clark, limiting them to 6 concerts per annum.

NZ's a larger in size (and 2 islands), where in Wales you can drive to Cardiff from anywhere in a few hours. NZ we tend to spread events, and national team games around the country. They ain't all in Auckland. Basically for the owners of MS, it's easier to make a buck compared to Eden Park. From memory I read somewhere that for an expensive new stadium of around 50,000 to likely break even running cost wise, it needs min 40 events per year. That's EP's problem if concerts are limited to max 6 per year.
Unknown editor edited January 09, 2024 01:24
Marto
if Eden Park ends up being the preferred choice, why not do a Cardiff Arms Park/Millennium Stadium. 

Flatten the place completely, build a decent stadium and make Eden Park 2 a lble to host cricket and other smaller (sub 10k) events in a decent small stadium which is all that Cardiff Arms Park is now.

If Wales can do it with it's small population, Auckland and NZ must be able to, too.

That sort of scenario - a 50,000 seater National Stadium, alongside a smaller say 15K ground does make some sense. For Auckland anyway. I've always thought EP no 2 would make a nice boutique football/rugby ground.

Significant difference with Wales, is every concert, or national sports event is held at the Millenium Stadium (MS). Like both the Welsh rugby & fottball teams play ALL their games there?? So I'm guessing with concerts etc, the MS hosts nearly 30-50 packed events per year? There isn't a Welsh Helen Clark, limiting them to 6 concerts per annum.

NZ's a larger in size (and 2 islands), where in Wales you can drive to Cardiff from anywhere in a few hours. NZ we tend to spread events, and national team games around the country. They ain't all in Auckland. Basically for the owners of MS, it's easier to make a buck compared to Eden Park. From memory I read somewhere that for an expensive new stadium of around 50,000 to likely break even running cost wise, it needs min 40 events per year. That's EP's problem if concerts are limited to max 6 per year.
Unknown editor edited January 08, 2024 23:58
Marto
if Eden Park ends up being the preferred choice, why not do a Cardiff Arms Park/Millennium Stadium. 

Flatten the place completely, build a decent stadium and make Eden Park 2 a lble to host cricket and other smaller (sub 10k) events in a decent small stadium which is all that Cardiff Arms Park is now.

If Wales can do it with it's small population, Auckland and NZ must be able to, too.

That sort of scenario - a 50,000 seater National Stadium, alongside a smaller say 15K ground does make some sense. For Auckland anyway. I've always thought EP no 2 would make a nice boutique football/rugby ground.

Significant difference with Wales, is every concert, or national sports event is held at the Millenium Stadium (MS). Like both the Welsh rugby & fottball teams play ALL their games there?? So I'm guessing with concerts etc, the MS hosts nearly 30-50 packed events per year? There isn't a Welsh Helen Clark, limiting them to 6 concerts per year.

NZ's a larger in size (and 2 islands), where in Wales you can drive to Cardiff from anywhere in a few hours. NZ we tend to spread events, and national team games around the country. They ain't all in Auckland. Basically for the owners of MS, it's easier to make a buck compared to Eden Park. From memory I read somewhere that for an expensive new stadium of around 50,000 to likely break even running cost wise, it needs min 40 events per year. That's EP's problem if concerts are limited to max 6 per year.
Unknown editor edited January 08, 2024 23:57
Marto
if Eden Park ends up being the preferred choice, why not do a Cardiff Arms Park/Millennium Stadium. 

Flatten the place completely, build a decent stadium and make Eden Park 2 a lble to host cricket and other smaller (sub 10k) events in a decent small stadium which is all that Cardiff Arms Park is now.

If Wales can do it with it's small population, Auckland and NZ must be able to, too.

That sort of scenario - a 50,000 seater National Stadium, alongside a smaller say 15K ground does make some sense. For Auckland anyway. I've always thought EP no 2 would make a nice boutique football/rugby ground.

Significant difference with Wales, is every concert, or national sports event is held at the Millenium Stadium (MS). Like both the Welsh rugby & fottball teams play ALL their games there?? So I'm guessing with concerts etc, the MS hosts nearly 30-50 packed events per year? There isn't a Welsh Helen Clark, limiting them to 6 concerts per year.

NZ's a larger in size (and 2 islands), where in Wales you can drive to Cardiff from anywhere in a few hours. NZ we tend to spread events, and national team games around the country. They ain't all in Auckland. Basically for the owners of MS, it's easier to make a buck compared to Eden Park.