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Posted March 29, 2024 00:12 · last edited March 29, 2024 00:19

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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350224881/national-stadium-getting-closer-becoming-reality-assessor-views-options

Nothing really new here. I just really wish they would scupper the idea of building a "National Stadium". Build a stadium that maximizes the user experience for the every day crowds, not the one offs. Anything over 25k just means a ton of added cost for not much usage. The cash saved can always be used to prop up Eden Park for the big one off stuff.  

A nice plan for the football or rugby fan, but a very bad idea for Auckland and it's rate payers. 

The above would just leave Eden Park as a glorified white elephant on prime residential land. Restricted to 1-2 ABs tests a year, and the current max 6 concerts.

The best outcome for Auckland is a 'National Stadium' downtown, with no restrictions on concerts, Crusty Demons or whoever, with as many events as possible and an ability to move into 'club mode' for sub 20-25K crowds. Without the max 6 concert rule that Eden Park operates under, who knows how many extra big acts/festivals/events may now be attracted to Auckland, especially if the new stadium has a roof. Could end up that place is sold out 20+ times per year.

None of us have any idea how effective club mode will be, or whether it will create a great match day atmosphere. It might be really good, it might be a bit flat - but it's a common solution around the world for cities similar to Auckland. You'd hope with some super smart engineering, sliding seats, acoustics etc it could work really well. Maybe in the not too far distant future the top tier could just be filled with AI generated AFC clad robots!

Will the new downtown National Stadium, you then demolish Eden Park, and add badly needed quality inner city housing to the 09. You can't ask Auckland rate payers to keep EP operating for say max 7-8 events per year, just so sports fans can have their smaller atmospheric downtown ground.

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Unknown editor edited March 29, 2024 00:19
RR
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350224881/national-stadium-getting-closer-becoming-reality-assessor-views-options

Nothing really new here. I just really wish they would scupper the idea of building a "National Stadium". Build a stadium that maximizes the user experience for the every day crowds, not the one offs. Anything over 25k just means a ton of added cost for not much usage. The cash saved can always be used to prop up Eden Park for the big one off stuff.  

A nice plan for the football or rugby fan, but a very bad idea for Auckland and it's rate payers. 

The above would just leave Eden Park as a glorified white elephant on prime residential land. Restricted to 1-2 ABs tests a year, and the current max 6 concerts.

The best outcome for Auckland is a 'National Stadium' downtown, with no restrictions on concerts, Crusty Demons or whoever, with as many events as possible and an ability to move into 'club mode' for sub 20-25K crowds. Without the max 6 concert rule that Eden Park operates under, who knows how many extra big acts/festivals/events may now be attracted to Auckland, especially if the new stadium has a roof. Could end up that place is sold out 20+ times per year.

None of us have any idea how effective club mode will be, or whether it will create a great match day atmosphere. It might be really good, it might be a bit flat - but it's a common solution around the world for cities similar to Auckland. You'd hope with some super smart engineering, acoustics etc it could work really well.

Will the new downtown National Stadium, you then demolish Eden Park, and add badly needed quality inner city housing to the 09. You can't ask Auckland rate payers to keep EP operating for say max 7-8 events per year, just so sports fans can have their smaller atmospheric downtown ground.
Unknown editor edited March 29, 2024 00:17
RR
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350224881/national-stadium-getting-closer-becoming-reality-assessor-views-options

Nothing really new here. I just really wish they would scupper the idea of building a "National Stadium". Build a stadium that maximizes the user experience for the every day crowds, not the one offs. Anything over 25k just means a ton of added cost for not much usage. The cash saved can always be used to prop up Eden Park for the big one off stuff.  

A nice plan for the football or rugby fan, but a very bad idea for Auckland and it's rate payers. 

The above would just leave Eden Park as a glorified white elephant on prime residential land. Restricted to 1-2 ABs tests a year, and the current max 6 concerts.

The best outcome for Auckland is a 'National Stadium' downtown, with no restrictions on concerts, Crusty Demons or whoever, with as many events as possible and an ability to move into 'club mode' for sub 20-25K crowds. Without the max 6 concert rule that Eden Park operates under, who knows how many extra big acts/festivals/events may now be attracted to Auckland, especially if the new stadium has a roof. Could end up that place is sold out 20+ times per year.

None of us have any idea how effective club mode will be, or whether it will create a great match day atmosphere. It might be really good, it might be a bit flat - but it's a common solution around the world to cities similar to Auckland.

Will the new downtown National Stadium, you then demolish Eden Park, and add badly needed quality inner city housing to the 09. You can't ask Auckland rate payers to keep EP operating for say max 7-8 events per year, just so sports fans can have their smaller atmospheric downtown ground.
Unknown editor edited March 29, 2024 00:16
RR
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350224881/national-stadium-getting-closer-becoming-reality-assessor-views-options

Nothing really new here. I just really wish they would scupper the idea of building a "National Stadium". Build a stadium that maximizes the user experience for the every day crowds, not the one offs. Anything over 25k just means a ton of added cost for not much usage. The cash saved can always be used to prop up Eden Park for the big one off stuff.  

A nice plan for the football or rugby fan, but a very bad idea for Auckland and it's rate payers. 

The above would just leave Eden Park as a glorified white elephant on prime residential land. Restricted to 1-2 ABs tests a year, and the current max 6 concerts.

The best outcome for Auckland is a 'National Stadium' downtown, with no restrictions on concerts, Crusty Demons or whoever, with as many events as possible and an ability to move into 'club mode' for sub 20-25K crowds. None of us have any idea how effective club mode will be, or whether it will create a great match day atmosphere. It might be really good, it might be a bit flat - but it's a common solution around the world to cities similar to Auckland.

Then you demolish Eden Park, and add badly needed quality inner city housing to the 09. You don't ask Auckland rate payers to keep Eden Park operating for say max 7-8 events per year, just so sports fans can have their smaller atmospheric downtown ground.