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Posted September 24, 2017 23:50 · last edited September 24, 2017 23:51

inafoxhole wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

inafoxhole wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Along with our 18yr old keeper.

Italiano would be fuming having waited three years to become our number 1 only to have it taken away from him for a player without a single professional appearance behind him, nor that many starts at NZFC level.

Bold call if the kid is picked... would love to know more about him.

Don't we have a whizz bang new goalkeeping coach whom has come in from outside the club and presumably, assessed each keeper on how they have gone at training? If the 18yo kid starts, it means he is the best person for the job. I've never been sold on Italiano but if he is the best, he starts. If its the other kid, so be it.

The only thing that matters is the win and the name on the back of the shirt is irrelevant.

You're not concerned about the fact that this kid can somehow be assessed as potentially the best person for the job, but was missed/ignored/overlooked while Italiano and Sail were being tied down (in Sail's case for two years)? Would be different if he'd just turned up last month.

Sail and Italiano were both signed before the current coaches (including the new goalkeeping coach) were signed.

I see no problem with the current coaches choosing the player they think will be best for the job in the position, rather than the player being paid the most to be in that position.

Wasn't it Italiano we were specifically told had been approved by the new coach (it was during the period where everyone knew it was this guy but they were waiting for i's to be dotted and t's to be crossed)?

Edit: Again, I have no issue with Smith being picked, but if he's potentially being rated ahead of Italiano, something's gone wrong somewhere, or he's had a huge couple of months.

I'm probably the #1 Keegan Smith fan on this forum - however while I think he is a huge prospect and I think the new coach is brave enough to do just as he says, maybe he is sending a message to Lewis and Oli - for all we know they have got a bit complacent in training and the coach thinks they need a wake up call.

The other reason is that Keegs is quite good with his feet, so maybe his skill set suits what the coach is looking for - again that's just speculation.  I would be a little surprised if he wins the starting jumper this season but if the coaches rate him he def has the attitude and skill set to make it work, and he is a bloody humble kid (was when I worked with him and I can't see changing much)

Here is a video of him at the Ellerslie junior prizegiving last season (he made a guest appearance)

He is also a bit of a character and def has a cheeky side to him, this video is him messing around between games at the Napier U19 nationals in 2015

Good kid, deserves a shot.

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Unknown editor edited September 24, 2017 23:51
inafoxhole wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
inafoxhole wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
MetalLegNZ wrote:

Along with our 18yr old keeper.

Italiano would be fuming having waited three years to become our number 1 only to have it taken away from him for a player without a single professional appearance behind him, nor that many starts at NZFC level.

Bold call if the kid is picked... would love to know more about him.

Don't we have a whizz bang new goalkeeping coach whom has come in from outside the club and presumably, assessed each keeper on how they have gone at training? If the 18yo kid starts, it means he is the best person for the job. I've never been sold on Italiano but if he is the best, he starts. If its the other kid, so be it.

The only thing that matters is the win and the name on the back of the shirt is irrelevant.

You're not concerned about the fact that this kid can somehow be assessed as potentially the best person for the job, but was missed/ignored/overlooked while Italiano and Sail were being tied down (in Sail's case for two years)? Would be different if he'd just turned up last month.

Sail and Italiano were both signed before the current coaches (including the new goalkeeping coach) were signed.

I see no problem with the current coaches choosing the player they think will be best for the job in the position, rather than the player being paid the most to be in that position.

Wasn't it Italiano we were specifically told had been approved by the new coach (it was during the period where everyone knew it was this guy but they were waiting for i's to be dotted and t's to be crossed)?

Edit: Again, I have no issue with Smith being picked, but if he's potentially being rated ahead of Italiano, something's gone wrong somewhere, or he's had a huge couple of months.

I'm probably the #1 Keegan Smith fan on this forum - however while I think he is a huge prospect and I think the new coach is brave enough to do just as he says, maybe he is sending a message to Lewis and Oli - for all we know they have got a bit complacent in training and the coach thinks they need a wake up call.

The other reason is that Keegs is quite good with his feet, so maybe his skill set suits what the coach is looking for - again that's just speculation.  I would be a little surprised if he wins the starting jumper this season but if the coaches rate him he def has the attitude and skill set to make it work, and he is a bloody humble kid (was when I worked with him and I can't see changing much)

Here is a video of him at the Ellerslie junior prizegiving last season (he made a guest appearance) <iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FEllerslieAFC%2Fvideos%2F1265077286846702%2F&show_text=0&width=560" width="560" height="315" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allowFullScreen="true"></iframe>

He is also a bit of a character and def has a cheeky side to him, this video is him messing around between games at the Napier U19 nationals in 2015
<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FEllerslieAFC%2Fvideos%2F1034370846584015%2F&show_text=0&width=560" width="560" height="315" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allowFullScreen="true"></iframe>

Good kid, deserves a shot.

Unknown editor edited September 24, 2017 23:50
inafoxhole wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
inafoxhole wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
MetalLegNZ wrote:

Along with our 18yr old keeper.

Italiano would be fuming having waited three years to become our number 1 only to have it taken away from him for a player without a single professional appearance behind him, nor that many starts at NZFC level.

Bold call if the kid is picked... would love to know more about him.

Don't we have a whizz bang new goalkeeping coach whom has come in from outside the club and presumably, assessed each keeper on how they have gone at training? If the 18yo kid starts, it means he is the best person for the job. I've never been sold on Italiano but if he is the best, he starts. If its the other kid, so be it.

The only thing that matters is the win and the name on the back of the shirt is irrelevant.

You're not concerned about the fact that this kid can somehow be assessed as potentially the best person for the job, but was missed/ignored/overlooked while Italiano and Sail were being tied down (in Sail's case for two years)? Would be different if he'd just turned up last month.

Sail and Italiano were both signed before the current coaches (including the new goalkeeping coach) were signed.

I see no problem with the current coaches choosing the player they think will be best for the job in the position, rather than the player being paid the most to be in that position.

Wasn't it Italiano we were specifically told had been approved by the new coach (it was during the period where everyone knew it was this guy but they were waiting for i's to be dotted and t's to be crossed)?

Edit: Again, I have no issue with Smith being picked, but if he's potentially being rated ahead of Italiano, something's gone wrong somewhere, or he's had a huge couple of months.

I'm probably the #1 Keegan Smith fan on this forum - however while I think he is a huge prospect and I think the new coach is brave enough to do just as he says, maybe he is sending a message to Lewis and Oli - for all we know they have got a bit complacent in training and the coach thinks they need a wake up call.

The other reason is that Keegs is quite good with his feet, so maybe his skill set suits what the coach is looking for - again that's just speculation.  I would be a little surprised if he wins the starting jumper this season but if the coaches rate him he def has the attitude and skill set to make it work, and he is a bloody humble kid (was when I worked with him and I can't see changing much)

Here is a video of him at the Ellerslie junior prizegiving last season (he made a guest appearance)
<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FEllerslieAFC%2Fvideos%2F1265077286846702%2F&show_text=0&width=560" width="560" height="315" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allowFullScreen="true"></iframe>

He is also a bit of a character and def has a cheeky side to him, this video is him messing around between games at the Napier U19 nationals in 2015
<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FEllerslieAFC%2Fvideos%2F1034370846584015%2F&show_text=0&width=560" width="560" height="315" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allowFullScreen="true"></iframe>

Good kid, deserves a shot.