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Posted November 10, 2025 23:30 · last edited November 11, 2025 01:58

Any idea of the cost? Noting I imagine labour and maybe even materials costs would be more expensive in London.

The new ChCh Te Kaha stadium has cost $693M. It sounds state of the art, uber flash. Has a roof, conference facilities, etc etc . Listed as a multi-functional venue, with no doubt incredible corporate box stuff going on. It's got a 30,000 capacity.
It cost $693M.

I'd imagine a 10,000 ground with roofed grandstands like Plough Lane and Louisville City is a minimum $50M project as a wild wild guess, maybe more like $100M??

Why would Rob Morrison spend that much of his hard earned on such a project. How would he monetise it? Cash strapped Wellington Rugby paying him a $20K game day lease fee, 5 times per year. That's a 0.2% gross rental return on a $50M spend. I don't think Rob would like that.

Does Infratil have a taxation issue? You would have millions of deductible depreciation with a new shiny stadium.

Is there yes a local developer prepared to get involved as well. But they would literally need to be able to sell hundreds of apartments in Fraser Park, to offset the stadium cost, to make a buck. Could you build a shopping centre inside the project to make it stack up. But does the area need another Queensgate?
Games of padel?

Councils and Government will just say we ain't helping, we have pipes to repair, and there is nothing wrong with playing at the ROF.

Sorry to be a bit of a killjoy, but I just don't see how building a Plough Lane replica would stack up. Austin's idea of relocating the Addington scaffolding to the Hutt may well be a good cheapest option. So yeah a rectangular small intimate ground hopefully happens, I just wouldn't get too excited about what it may look like. Happy to be proven wrong.

Note - it cost $30M to build that 'temporary' Addington stadium back in 2011. That would have included some demolition costs to knock down some of the old ugly Rugby League concrete seating. Normal capacity 18,000 but expanded to 26,000 for All Blacks test matches etc. The Government paid most of that $30M cost.

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Unknown editor edited November 11, 2025 01:58

Any idea of the cost? Noting I imagine labour and maybe even materials costs would be more expensive in London.

The new ChCh Te Kaha stadium has cost $693M. It sounds state of the art, uber flash. Has a roof, conference facilities, etc etc . Listed as a multi-functional venue, with no doubt incredible corporate box stuff going on. It's got a 30,000 capacity.
It cost $693M.

I'd imagine a 10,000 ground with roofed grandstands like Plough Lane and Louisville City is a minimum $50M project as a wild wild guess, maybe more like $100M??

Why would Rob Morrison spend that much of his hard earned on such a project. How would he monetise it? Cash strapped Wellington Rugby paying him a $20K game day match lease, fee 5 times per year. That's a 0.2% gross rental return on a $50M spend. I don't think Rob would like that.

Does Infratil have a taxation issue? You would have millions of deductible depreciation with a new shiny stadium.

Is there yes a local developer prepared to get involved as well. But they would literally need to be able to sell hundreds of apartments in Fraser Park, to offset the stadium cost, to make a buck. Could you build a shopping centre inside the project to make it stack up. But does the area need another Queensgate?
Games of padel?

Councils and Government will just say we ain't helping, we have pipes to repair, and there is nothing wrong with playing at the ROF.

Sorry to be a bit of a killjoy, but I just don't see how building a Plough Lane replica would stack up. Austin's idea of relocating the Addington scaffolding to the Hutt may well be a good cheapest option. So yeah a rectangular small intimate ground hopefully happens, I just wouldn't get too excited about what it may look like. Happy to be proven wrong.

Note - it cost $30M to build that 'temporary' Addington stadium back in 2011. That would have included some demolition costs to knock down some of the old ugly Rugby League concrete seating. Normal capacity 18,000 but expanded to 26,000 for All Blacks test matches etc. The Government paid most of that $30M cost.

Unknown editor edited November 10, 2025 23:50

Any idea of the cost? Noting I imagine labour and maybe even materials costs would be more expensive in London.

The new ChCh Te Kaha stadium has cost $693M. It sounds state of the art, uber flash. Has a roof, conference facilities, etc etc . Listed as a multi-functional venue, with no doubt incredible corporate box stuff going on. It's got a 30,000 capacity.
It cost $693M.

I'd imagine a 10,000 ground with roofed grandstands like Plough Lane and Louisville City is a minimum $50M project as a wild wild guess, maybe more like $100M??

Why would Rob Morrison spend that much of his hard earned on such a project. How would he monetise it? Cash strapped Wellington Rugby paying him a $20K game day match lease, fee 5 times per year. That's a 0.2% gross rental return on a $50M spend. I don't think Rob would like that.

Does Infratil have a taxation issue? You would have millions of deductible depreciation with a new shiny stadium.

Is there yes a local developer prepared to get involved as well. But they would literally need to be able to sell hundreds of apartments in Fraser Park, to offset the stadium cost, to make a buck. Could you build a shopping centre inside the project to make it stack up. But does the area need another Queensgate?

Councils and Government will just say we ain't helping, we have pipes to repair, and there is nothing wrong with playing at the ROF.

Sorry to be a bit of a killjoy, but I just don't see how building a Plough Lane replica would stack up. Austin's idea of relocating the Addington scaffolding to the Hutt may well be a good cheapest option. So yeah a rectangular small intimate ground hopefully happens, I just wouldn't get too excited about what it may look like. Happy to be proven wrong.

Note - it cost $30M to build that 'temporary' Addington stadium back in 2011. That would have included some demolition costs to knock down some of the old ugly Rugby League concrete seating. Normal capacity 18,000 but expanded to 26,000 for All Blacks test matches etc. The Government paid most of that $30M cost.

Unknown editor edited November 10, 2025 23:49

Any idea of the cost? Noting I imagine labour and maybe even materials costs would be more expensive in London.

The new ChCh Te Kaha stadium has cost $693M. It sounds state of the art, uber flash. Has a roof, conference facilities, etc etc . Listed as a multi-functional venue, with no doubt incredible corporate box stuff going on. It's got a 30,000 capacity.
It cost $693M.

I'd imagine a 10,000 ground with roofed grandstands like Plough Lane and Louisville City is a minimum $50M project as a wild wild guess, maybe more like $100M??

Why would Rob Morrison spend that much of his hard earned on such a project. How would he monetise it? Cash strapped Wellington Rugby paying him a $20K game day match lease, fee 5 times per year. That's a 0.2% gross rental return on a $50M spend. I don't think Rob would like that.

Does Infratil have a taxation issue? You would have millions of deductible depreciation with a new shiny stadium.

Is there yes a local developer prepared to get involved as well. But they would literally need to be able to sell hundreds of apartments in Fraser Park, to offset the stadium cost, to make a buck. Could you build a shopping centre inside the project to make it stack up. But does the area need another Queensgate?

Councils and Government will just say we ain't helping, we have pipes to repair, and there is nothing wrong with playing at the ROF.

Sorry to be a bit of a killjoy, but I just don't see how building a Plough Lane replica would stack up. Austin's idea of relocating the Addington scaffolding to the Hutt may well be a good cheapest option. So yeah a rectangular small intimate ground hopefully happens, I just wouldn't get too excited about what it may look like.

Note - it cost $30M to build that 'temporary' Addington stadium back in 2011. That would have included some demolition costs to knock down some of the old ugly Rugby League concrete seating. Normal capacity 18,000 but expanded to 26,000 for All Blacks test matches etc. The Government paid most of that $30M cost.

Unknown editor edited November 10, 2025 23:44

Any idea of the cost? Noting I imagine labour and maybe even materials costs would be more expensive in London.

The new ChCh Te Kaha stadium has cost $693M. It sounds state of the art, uber flash. Has a roof, conference facilities, etc etc . Listed as a multi-functional venue, with no doubt incredible corporate box stuff going on. It's got a 30,000 capacity.
It cost $693M.

I'd imagine a 10,000 ground with roofed grandstands like Plough Lane and Louisville City is a minimum $50M project as a wild wild guess, maybe more like $100M??

Why would Rob Morrison spend that much of his hard earned on such a project. How would he monetise it? Cash strapped Wellington Rugby paying him a $20K game day match lease, fee 5 times per year. That's a 0.2% gross rental return on a $50M spend. I don't think Rob would like that.

Does Infratil have a taxation issue? You would have millions of deductible depreciation with a new shiny stadium.

Is there yes a local developer prepared to get involved as well. But they would literally need to be able to sell hundreds of apartments in Fraser Park, to offset the stadium cost, to make a buck. Could you build a shopping centre inside the project to make it stack up. But does the area need another Queensgate?

Councils and Government will just say we ain't helping, we have pipes to repair, and there is nothing wrong with playing at the ROF.

Sorry to be a bit of a killjoy, but I just don't see how building a Plough Lane replica would stack up. Austin's idea of relocating the Addington scaffolding to the Hutt may well be a good cheapest option. So yeah a rectangular small intimate ground hopefully happens, I just wouldn't get too excited about what it may look like.

Note - it cost $30M to build that 'temporary' Addington stadium back in 2011. That would have included some demolition costs to knock down some of the old ugly Rugby League concrete seating. Normal capacity 18,000 but expanded to 26,000 for All Blacks test matches etc. The Goverment paid most of that $30M cost.

Unknown editor edited November 10, 2025 23:44

Any idea of the cost? Noting I imagine labour and maybe even materials costs would be more expensive in London.

The new ChCh Te Kaha stadium has cost $693M. It sounds state of the art, uber flash. Has a roof, conference facilities, etc etc . Listed as a multi-functional venue, with no doubt incredible corporate box stuff going on. It's got a 30,000 capacity.
It cost $693M.

I'd imagine a 10,000 ground with roofed grandstands like Plough Lane and Louisville City is a minimum $50M project as a wild wild guess, maybe more like $100M??

Why would Rob Morrison spend that much of his hard earned on such a project. How would he monetise it? Cash strapped Wellington Rugby paying him a $20K game day match lease, fee 5 times per year. That's a 0.2% gross rental return on a $50M spend. I don't think Rob would like that.

Does Infratil have a taxation issue? You would have millions of deductible depreciation with a new shiny stadium.

Is there yes a local developer prepared to get involved as well. But they would literally need to be able to sell hundreds of apartments in Fraser Park, to offset the stadium cost, to make a buck. Could you build a shopping centre inside the project to make it stack up. But does the area need another Queensgate?

Councils and Government will just say we ain't helping, we have pipes to repair, and there is nothing wrong with playing at the ROF.

Sorry to be a bit of a killjoy, but I just don't see how building a Plough Lane replica would stack up. Austin's idea of relocating the Addington scaffolding to the Hutt may well be a good cheapest option. So yeah a rectangular small intimate ground hopefully happens, I just wouldn't get too excited about what it may look like.

Note - it cost $30M to build that 'temporary' Addington stadium back in 2011. That would have included some demolition costs to knock down some of the old ugly Rugby League concrete seating. Normal capacity 18,000 but expanded to 26,000 for All Blacks test matches etc.

Unknown editor edited November 10, 2025 23:43

Any idea of the cost? Noting I imagine labour and maybe even materials costs would be more expensive in London.

The new ChCh Te Kaha stadium has cost $693M. It sounds state of the art, uber flash. Has a roof, conference facilities, etc etc . Listed as a multi-functional venue, with no doubt incredible corporate box stuff going on. It's got a 30,000 capacity.
It cost $693M.

I'd imagine a 10,000 ground with roofed grandstands like Plough Lane and Louisville City is a minimum $50M project as a wild wild guess, maybe more like $100M??

Why would Rob Morrison spend that much of his hard earned on such a project. How would he monetise it? Cash strapped Wellington Rugby paying him a $20K game day match lease, fee 5 times per year. That's a 0.2% gross rental return on a $50M spend. I don't think Rob would like that.

Does Infratil have a taxation issue? You would have millions of deductible depreciation with a new shiny stadium.

Is there yes a local developer prepared to get involved as well. But they would literally need to be able to sell hundreds of apartments in Fraser Park, to offset the stadium cost, to make a buck. Could you build a shopping centre inside the project to make it stack up. But does the area need another Queensgate?

Councils and Government will just say we ain't helping, we have pipes to repair, and there is nothing wrong with playing at the ROF.

Sorry to be a bit of a killjoy, but I just don't see how building a Plough Lane replica would stack up. Austin's idea of relocating the Addington scaffolding to the Hutt may well be a good cheapest option. So yeah a rectangular small intimate ground hopefully happens, I just wouldn't get too excited about what it may look like.

Note - it cost $30M to build that 'temporary' Addington stadium back in 2011. That would have included some demolition costs to knock down some of the old ugly Rugby League concrete seating.

Unknown editor edited November 10, 2025 23:41

Any idea of the cost? Noting I imagine labour and maybe even materials costs would be more expensive in London.

The new ChCh Te Kaha stadium has cost $693M. It sounds state of the art, uber flash. Has a roof, conference facilities, etc etc . Listed as a multi-functional venue, with no doubt incredible corporate box stuff going on. It's got a 30,000 capacity.
It cost $693M.

I'd imagine a 10,000 ground with roofed grandstands like Plough Lane and Louisville City is a minimum $50M project as a wild wild guess, maybe more like $100M??

Why would Rob Morrison spend that much of his hard earned on such a project. How would he monetise it? Cash strapped Wellington Rugby paying him a $20K game day match lease, fee 5 times per year. That's a 0.2% gross rental return on a $50M spend. I don't think Rob would like that.

Does Infratil have a taxation issue? You would have millions of deductible depreciation with a new shiny stadium.

Is there yes a local developer prepared to get involved as well. But they would literally need to be able to sell hundreds of apartments in Fraser Park, to offset the stadium cost, to make a buck. Could you build a shopping centre inside the project to make it stack up. But does the area need another Queensgate?

Councils and Government will just say we ain't helping, we have pipes to repair, and there is nothing wrong with playing at the ROF.

Sorry to be a bit of a killjoy, but I just don't see how building a Plough Lane replica would stack up. Austin's idea of relocating the Addington scaffolding to the Hutt may well be a good cheapest option. So yeah a rectangular small intimate ground hopefully happens, I just wouldn't get too excited about what it may look like.

Unknown editor edited November 10, 2025 23:37

Any idea of the cost? Noting I imagine labour and maybe even materials costs would be more expensive in London.

The new ChCh Te Kaha stadium has cost $693M. It sounds state of the art, uber flash. Has a roof, conference facilities, etc etc . Listed as a multi-functional venue, with no doubt incredible corporate box stuff going on. It's got a 30,000 capacity. It cost $693M.

I'd imagine a 10,000 ground with roofed grandstands like Plough Lane and Louisville City is a minimum $50M project as a wild wild guess, maybe more like $100M??

Why would Rob Morrison spend that much of his hard earned on such a project. How would he monetise it? Cash strapped Wellington Rugby paying him a $20K game day match lease, fee 5 times per year. That's a 0.2% gross rental return on a $50M spend. I don't think Rob would like that.

Does Infratil have a taxation issue? You would have millions of deductible depreciation with a new shiny stadium.

Is there yes a local developer prepared to get involved as well. But they would literally need to be able to sell hundreds of apartments in Fraser Park, to offset the stadium cost, to make a buck. Could you build a shopping centre inside the project to make it stack up. But does the area need another Queensgate?

Councils and Government will just say we ain't helping, we have pipes to repair, and there is nothing wrong with playing at the ROF.

Sorry to be a bit of a killjoy, but I just don't see how building a Plough Lane replica would stack up. Austin's idea of relocating the Addington scaffolding to the Hutt may well be a good cheapest option. So yeah a rectangular small intimate ground hopefully happens, I just wouldn't get too excited about what it may look like.

Unknown editor edited November 10, 2025 23:32

Any idea of the cost? Noting I imagine labour and maybe even materials costs would be more expensive in London.

The new ChCh Te Kaha stadium has cost $693M. It sounds state of the art, uber flash. Has a roof, conference facilities, etc etc . Listed as a multi-functional venue, with no doubt incrediblen corporate box stuff going on. It's got a 30,000 capacity.

All that aside I'd imagine a 10,000 ground with roofed grandstands like Plough Lane and Louisville City is a minimum $50M project as a wild wild guess, maybe more like $100M??

Why would Rob Morrison spend that much of his hard earned on such a project. How would he monetise it? Cash strapped Wellington Rugby paying him a $20K game day match lease fee 5 times per year. That's a 0.2% gross rental return on a $50M spend. I don't think Rob would like that.

Does Infratil have a taxation issue? You would have millions of deductible depreciation with a new shiny stadium.

Is there yes a local developer prepared to get involved as well. But they would literally need to be able to sell hundreds of apartments in Fraser Park, to offset the stadium cost, to make a buck. Could you build a shopping centre inside the project to make it stack up. But does the area need another Queensgate?

Councils and Government will just say we ain't helping, we have pipes to repair, and there is nothing wrong with playing at the ROF.

Sorry to be a bit of a killjoy, but I just don't see how building a Plough Lane replica would stack up. Austin's idea of relocating the Addington scaffolding to the Hutt may well be a good cheapest option. So yeah a rectangular small intimate ground hopefully happens, I just wouldn't get too excited about what it may look like.