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Celery Cap Scrap

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Posted June 30, 2015 23:36 · last edited June 30, 2015 23:40

james dean wrote:

I guess my feeling is that the players, whether or not they get a good deal or a bad deal playing in the A-League, have agreed to restrict their salaries. Think about that, there is a cap to the amount they can earn even if someone wants to pay them more. Now there is literally no other industry in NZ or Australia (other than the NRL) where people agree to that.

And no-one else at the club, or at the A-League administration, or working for Fox, or for the FFA is in that boat.

Now that salary cap brings with it benefits for players in the league, but it is also effectively a limit on the growth of the game so you have to be very careful how that salary cap is applied. If the cap doesn't increase year on year then players are getting paid less each year.

There are some restrictions around the movement of players, this does mean some HAL players are likely to be limited to the HAL and under the cap, not able to move easily to other leagues with higher wages, while others benefit because they may not likely pick up a contract if there were no restrictions on player movement. If the HAL increases the amount of clubs and keeps the visa restrictions, it should increase the bargaining power of players.

The salary cap is not just, but is mainly, about the financial stability of each individual club but the health of the league as a whole in that it keeps each club relatively competitive. I'm not sure how the long term future of the league would be if there was no salary cap (or floor), some clubs would be paying well above the cap now and dominating the league while others could possibly be paying less than the current salary minimum.

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Bullion edited June 30, 2015 23:40

james dean wrote:

I guess my feeling is that the players, whether or not they get a good deal or a bad deal playing in the A-League, have agreed to restrict their salaries. Think about that, there is a cap to the amount they can earn even if someone wants to pay them more. Now there is literally no other industry in NZ or Australia (other than the NRL) where people agree to that.

And no-one else at the club, or at the A-League administration, or working for Fox, or for the FFA is in that boat.

Now that salary cap brings with it benefits for players in the league, but it is also effectively a limit on the growth of the game so you have to be very careful how that salary cap is applied. If the cap doesn't increase year on year then players are getting paid less each year.

There are some restrictions around the movement of players, this does mean some HAL players are likely to be limited to the HAL and under the cap, not able to move easily to other leagues with higher wages, while others benefit because they may not likely pick up a contract if there were no restrictions on player movement. If the HAL increases the amount of clubs and keeps the visa restrictions, it should increase the bargaining power of players.

The salary cap is not just, but is mainly, about the financial stability of each individual club but the health of the league as a whole in that it keeps each club relatively competitive. I'm not sure how the long term future of the league would be if there was no salary cap (or floor), some clubs would be paying well above the cap now and dominating the league while others could possibly be paying less than the curren salary minimum.

Bullion edited June 30, 2015 23:40

james dean wrote:

I guess my feeling is that the players, whether or not they get a good deal or a bad deal playing in the A-League, have agreed to restrict their salaries. Think about that, there is a cap to the amount they can earn even if someone wants to pay them more. Now there is literally no other industry in NZ or Australia (other than the NRL) where people agree to that.

And no-one else at the club, or at the A-League administration, or working for Fox, or for the FFA is in that boat.

Now that salary cap brings with it benefits for players in the league, but it is also effectively a limit on the growth of the game so you have to be very careful how that salary cap is applied. If the cap doesn't increase year on year then players are getting paid less each year.

There are some restrictions around the movement of players, this does mean some HAL players are likely to be limited to the HAL and under the cap, not able to move easily to other leagues with higher wages, while others benefit because they may not likely pick up a contract if there were no restrictions on player movement. If the HAL increases the amount of clubs and keeps the visa restrictions, it should increase the bargaining power of players.

The salary cap is not just, but is mainly, about the financial stability of each individual club but the health of the league as a whole in that it keeps each club relatively competitive. I'm not sure how the long term future of the league would be if there was no salary cap (or floor), some clubs would be paying well above the cap now and dominating the league while others could possibly be paying less than the curren salary minimum.