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Posted February 25, 2013 03:31 · last edited February 25, 2013 03:33

Tunnel Vision wrote:

Bullion wrote:

james dean wrote:

Some interesting comments on RH in here from others in football - pity it is all off the record.  But they are all fair pointa and hard to argue with really


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10867354


The Herald's football coverage is significantly better than the dompost

I would like to know how many people did they talked to. With it being all anonymous you can't say for certain if the reporter just selects people and/or quotes to validate his point of view. 

Does it matter though? The points raised were correct and what a lot of people have been saying. Doesn't matter who said it but I think people agree that Herbert hasn't embraced local talent enough, his record is poor, he's tactically outmanouvered (I like how he raised the oceania cup as a good example), and the writer also claims his recruitment has been poor overall ( though some claim that because he signed Ifill that's all that matters).

These are all things that have been raised by people on this forum which has also seen the pro Herbert brigade attack with some of the silliest arguments. Such as making playoffs 3 years in a row.

He could have spoken to only 2 or 3 people, and those he spoke to could have had positive things to say but only reported on the negative comments. He may have selected people who he knew to have a negative opinion. I just think he could have said he spoke to X amount of people a mixture of ex All Whites, current ASBP coaches and ex-Herbert coached players and mostly had negative comments on these issues - would have given far better context. 

The Phoenix have had 22 kiwis contracted and including the Academy players, 25 kiwis that have gotten game time in the HAL. If you include naturalised NZers it could jump up by 2 or 3.

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Bullion edited February 25, 2013 03:33
Tunnel Vision wrote:
Bullion wrote:
james dean wrote:

Some interesting comments on RH in here from others in football - pity it is all off the record.  But they are all fair pointa and hard to argue with really


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10867354


The Herald's football coverage is significantly better than the dompost

I would like to know how many people did they talked to. With it being all anonymous you can't say for certain if the reporter just selects people and/or quotes to validate his point of view. 

Does it matter though? The points raised were correct and what a lot of people have been saying. Doesn't matter who said it but I think people agree that Herbert hasn't embraced local talent enough, his record is poor, he's tactically outmanouvered (I like how he raised the oceania cup as a good example), and the writer also claims his recruitment has been poor overall ( though some claim that because he signed Ifill that's all that matters).

These are all things that have been raised by people on this forum which has also seen the pro Herbert brigade attack with some of the silliest arguments. Such as making playoffs 3 years in a row.

He could have spoken to only 2 or 3 people, and those he spoke to could have had positive things to say but only reported on the negative comments. He may have selected people who he knew to have a negative opinion. I just think he could have said he spoke to X amount of people a mixture of ex All Whites, current ASBP coaches and ex-Herbert coached players and mostly had negative comments on these issues - would have given far better context. 

The Phoenix have had 23 kiwis contracted and including the Academy players, 25 kiwis that have gotten game time in the HAL. If you include naturalised NZers it could jump up by 2 or 3.