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Posted March 11, 2018 08:54 · last edited March 11, 2018 08:59

charliec wrote:

nufc_nz wrote:

Oi Oi Edgecumbe wrote:

Greenie will have them sorted for next week. He can prove he's up to it with a good run.

He doesn't have the qualifications though. FFA require it not the nix.

Another silly rule/stipulation that the FFA have set. Surely a club can decide who they wish to appoint as coach - shouldnt matter if they have a piece of paper saying they are qualified.  There is a simple way around it,  appoint someone with the right piece of paper and appoint whoever we wish as their assistant - although the appointed coach is just a puppet to the assistant

Not sure I would agree with all of that.  The point is that very early on FFA decided to establish a minimum coaching qualification so that all clubs would be coached at certain comparable level.  This was to bring a minimum standard and in theory is very commendable. Therefore, one club saying "but we do not agree" should not be able get exempted because Ramon is already a good coach.

I am however 100% with you on the question what the minimum level should be.  You could argue that guys like Ramon (or many others mentioned here) are a real proof you do not need a top UEFA Pro diploma to be a very decent coach.  Also, it is a joke to say that coaches who qualified in Australia do not have to do a UEFA Pro. It appears a local diploma is fine, but if you're an English coach then oh no, an UK equivalent to Aussie diploma is not enough? That is a closed-shop joke.

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charliec wrote:
nufc_nz wrote:
Oi Oi Edgecumbe wrote:

Greenie will have them sorted for next week. He can prove he's up to it with a good run.

He doesn't have the qualifications though. FFA require it not the nix.

Another silly rule/stipulation that the FFA have set. Surely a club can decide who they wish to appoint as coach - shouldnt matter if they have a piece of paper saying they are qualified.  There is a simple way around it,  appoint someone with the right piece of paper and appoint whoever we wish as their assistant - although the appointed coach is just a puppet to the assistant

Not sure I would agree with all of that.  The point is that very early on FFA decided to establish a minimum coaching qualification so that clubs would be coached at certain levels.  This was to bring a minimum standard. One club should not be able to say they do not want to do that.

I am however with you on the question what the minimum level should be.  You could argue that guys like Ramon (or many others mentioned here) are a real proof you do not need top UEFA Pro diploma to be a decent coach.  Also, it is a joke to say that coaches who qualified in Australia do not have to do it, a local diploma is fine, but if you're an English coach then oh no, an UK equivalent to Aussie diploma is not enough. That is a closed-shop joke.

Unknown editor edited March 11, 2018 08:56
charliec wrote:
nufc_nz wrote:
Oi Oi Edgecumbe wrote:

Greenie will have them sorted for next week. He can prove he's up to it with a good run.

He doesn't have the qualifications though. FFA require it not the nix.

Another silly rule/stipulation that the FFA have set. Surely a club can decide who they wish to appoint as coach - shouldnt matter if they have a piece of paper saying they are qualified.  There is a simple way around it,  appoint someone with the right piece of paper and appoint whoever we wish as their assistant - although the appointed coach is just a puppet to the assistant

Not sure I would agree with that.  The point is the FFA (or A-League authority if it wasn't FFA) needs to establish a minimum coaching qualification so that clubs would be coached at certain levels.  One club should not be able to say they do not want to do that.

I am however with you on the question what the minimum level should be.  You could argue that guys like Ramon (or many others mentioned here) are a proof you do not need top UEFA Pro diploma to be a decent coach.  Also, it is a joke to say that coaches who qualified in Australia do not have to do it, a local diploma is fine, but if you're an English coach then an UK equivalent is not enough. 

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