What do you mean by hierarchy? Never experienced this. Never ever got the impression that anyone is being elitist either. In fact it's what I like about yellow fever...especially compared to some of the other supporter groups around (RBB)
Tegal, quick as ever to reply to me! I say elitist and hierarchal because that's what YF is. If you're not in the 'in group' of 15-20 people you aren't in anything. Very difficult to put views across on here without being slammed. Very hard to get new chants going if you don't go to the BB or know any of the hardcore. It's almost as if there is a sense of arrogance on here where if it's not said by the usual a-team then it doesn't mean anything. Similar in terms of negative comments. People have negative views in life, instead of slamming it and ignore it, why don't you take them on board as constructive feedback?
Last home game YF was dead as can be. A fairly regular fan shouted "FIRE UP FEVER, COME ON WHERE ARE YA,' to which a number of fever fans turned around and pointed at him as if 'who does he think he is, he telling us to fire up' .. It was a challenge laid down, why instead of being dour and negative you put your voice in behind the boys and get it going.
I know people who rather not stand in the fever zone because of the type of attitude being portrayed.
But anyone can start chants and people generally join in, so I still don't understand what you're on about. I'd be annoyed at someone shouting at me to fire up too, maybe he should have started a chant instead of demanding an atmosphere from others?
As for the forums, people disagree about things. Disagreeing with someone doesn't make you elitist.
You seem to have invented this 'in group' in your head as you seem to like to be on the outside of it. This is evidenced by you constantly challenging the same people on twitter.
I have never once seen someone shot down for starting a chant. I have never once seen somebody act as if they're superior to anyone else in the fever zone.
https://twitter.com/patrick478/status/521181534405...
I rest my case, nothing has changed in 7 months.
All class by Smithy, telling a fan to 'fuck off and go to the other aisles' because he wasn't chanting
Where does it say that people in the zone have to chant?
Still haven't heard back from you in regards to meeting over a beer to get your insight into how the Zone can be improved. Next time you accuse me of being 'elitist' - remember that I genuinely wanted your input into how things could improve and you just ignored the offer.
The offer is very nice Patrick, truly, but i would rather place my feedback over the forums at this point in time as I am currently in a very busy time of the year. I never intended to ignore you, I actually thought I had sent a reply late last night. I apologise. - may be in a few weeks I will take you up on this and buy the second round. Cheers.