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Flags, Drums, Flares etc.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
AJ13 wrote:
I dont care what anyone says, flares are badass.


So is doing a Evel Knievel-style "Leap of Death" over 40 Victory fans in a steamroller, but you shouldn't do that either.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Doloras wrote:
AJ13 wrote:
I dont care what anyone says, flares are badass.


So is doing a Evel Knievel-style "Leap of Death" over 40 Victory fans in a steamroller, but you shouldn't do that either.
 
 
 
I'm not having a go at people who like them, as such, I just don't get what the fascination is.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Can I choose the 40 Victory fans?
 
I'd prefer not to flatten Kiwi Pie is all, some of theo others though...

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Hard News wrote:
Can I choose the 40 Victory fans?
 
I'd prefer not to flatten Kiwi Pie is all, some of theo others though...

Huh?I thought we were using a steamroller.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jag wrote:
AJ13 wrote:
I dont care what anyone says, flares are badass.
 
That's a bit like saying "coffee tables are badass"

Depends, theyre badass at the basin with a couch.

I dont see anything wrong with flares, personally.
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I'm driving the steamroller. I want to see if I can beat the current world record of 0.5 Victory fans.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
AJ13 wrote:
I dont see anything wrong with flares, personally.
 
I assume you mean apart from the fine of 1/5th of a Rojas salary, the safety issues, and the 'well hard Ultra, we're more important than the team' attitude they encourage?

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jag wrote:
Question to all the guys who think "flares are class". How and why? Why is letting off oversized sparklers at the football such a wonderful idea. Not taking the piss, it's a genuinely serious question.


For me, when executed and co-ordinated properly, they are the most stunning visual spectacle fans can make at the game. It's a show of support, and a way of celebrating and enjoying being at the game with your team.

Sure they are a potential hazard in the hands of a numpty, but by the same token a numpty doesn't need a flare to be a numpty.
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Hard News wrote:
AJ13 wrote:
I dont see anything wrong with flares, personally.
 
I assume you mean apart from the fine of 1/5th of a Rojas salary, the safety issues, and the 'well hard Ultra, we're more important than the team' attitude they encourage?

You'd have more chance of going blind from being whipped in the face with a YF Tee than you would from staring into a flare.
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Smoke inhalation, fire risk, crowd crush.  I'm not that anti them but these are the reasons the FFA have banstciked them. 

The stadium would go mental over these things.
 
el grapadura wrote:
Sure they are a potential hazard in the hands of a numpty, but by the same token a numpty doesn't need a flare to be a numpty.
 
No, they can just be in the same ground as Daniel.
Hard News2011-02-15 10:50:50

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Hard News wrote:
the 'well hard Ultra, we're more important than the team' attitude they encourage?


That's an interesting point that would bear further discussion. Some might say that the players change, the coach changes, the owner changes, even the stadium or the name might change, and so the fans are the thing that "makes" a team. However, I would certainly agree that a "we Ultras are more important than other fans who don't have flares" culture is the last thing we need.

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el grapadura wrote:
Jag wrote:
Question to all the guys who think "flares are class". How and why? Why is letting off oversized sparklers at the football such a wonderful idea. Not taking the piss, it's a genuinely serious question.


For me, when executed and co-ordinated properly, they are the most stunning visual spectacle fans can make at the game. It's a show of support, and a way of celebrating and enjoying being at the game with your team............ 
 
Right.
 
Guess we'll just have to disagree on this one, EG.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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el grapadura wrote:
Jag wrote:
Question to all the guys who think "flares are class". How and why? Why is letting off oversized sparklers at the football such a wonderful idea. Not taking the piss, it's a genuinely serious question.


For me, when executed and co-ordinated properly, they are the most stunning visual spectacle fans can make at the game. It's a show of support, and a way of celebrating and enjoying being at the game with your team.

Sure they are a potential hazard in the hands of a numpty, but by the same token a numpty doesn't need a flare to be a numpty.

Pretty much.

1. ignite flare
2. throw flare on ground and stand away

Afterall, theyre designed to be hand-held / used within close proximity of oneself. Fireworks IMO are far more dangerous, as a flare is not a projectile.
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Jag wrote:
Right.
 
Guess we'll just have to disagree on this one, EG.
 
The difference between Partick and Dinamo has never been more explicit.

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I think a big part of the FFA's problem with flares is that they were assiciated with all sorts of other nonsense in the old NSL. The ban on national flags falls in the same category.
 
Same old aussies, always fighting.
 

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Hard News wrote:
Smoke inhalation, fire risk, crowd crush.� I'm not that anti them but these are the reasons the FFA have banstciked them.�


Not saying that these aren't issues involved, but we both know numero one reason FFA bansticked flares is because they're associated with effnik support.
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Hard News wrote:
Smoke inhalation, fire risk, crowd crush.  I'm not that anti them but these are the reasons the FFA have banstciked them. 

The stadium would go mental over these things.

Well thats the world we live in though isnt it? The same world thats banned breast feeding in some public places, and gay news websites at McDonalds restaurants.
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I'm sure you are beating the political correctness drum, when in fact it's more the legal implications drum.

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Hard News wrote:

Must ask the club if they got any noise about the Swiss flag.



Maybe some Austrian-Australians got offended because they're not over that whole William Tell thing yet.

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If you were to light a flare at the stadium it would be classed up there with some of the worst things you could do to get yourself kicked out/banned. It's about people's safety, surely that's not to hard to understand? I can't even believe people are debating this.

Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

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Hard News wrote:
I'm sure you are beating the political correctness drum, when in fact it's more the legal implications drum.

Same thing - the worlds gone daft.
AJ132011-02-15 11:27:30
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What are the rules on flares at the Hilton Petone?
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:

Playing in them or ripping them?

 
Wearing them is positively encouraged. It's the Hutt

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Hard News wrote:
Jag wrote:
Right.
 
Guess we'll just have to disagree on this one, EG.
 
The difference between Partick and Dinamo has never been more explicit.
 
 
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Doloras wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Must ask the club if they got any noise about the Swiss flag.
Maybe some Austrian-Australians got offended because they're not over that whole William Tell thing yet.
 
Oh don't get me started on the f**king Swiss - punctual outdoorsy types with a penchant for leather shorts, cheese and chocolate. And all that neutrality bollocks? Gimme a break. Just pick a f**king side!
 
Seriously, it's a good job I never saw that flag on Sunday or it all would have kicked off.
 

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terminator_x wrote:
Doloras wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Must ask the club if they got any noise about the Swiss flag.
Maybe some Austrian-Australians got offended because they're not over that whole William Tell thing yet.
 
Oh don't get me started on the f**king Swiss - punctual outdoorsy types with a penchant for leather shorts, cheese and chocolate. And all that neutrality bollocks? Gimme a break. Just pick a f**king side!
 
Seriously, it's a good job I never saw that flag on Sunday or it all would have kicked off.
 
 
To be fair, they do make a good knife

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Im going to start coming up with quirky banner ideas for next season, maybe a couple with reference to the commentators from time to time (so i get some giggles out of De Jong and Dewhurst). I'll do a Mel McLaughlin one as well. And no doubt a few 'media related' banners. Pitch side aisles 26-28
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Why not do a banner with a picture of a flare? - as a compromise.

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terminator_x wrote:
Why not do a banner with a picture of a flare? - as a compromise.

With glitter and elbow macaroni?

Im thinking about a life size cut out of Mel as well
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terminator_x wrote:
Why not do a banner with a picture of a flare? - as a compromise.
 
So, you guys who want banners with pictures of flares on them.........

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jag wrote:
So, you guys who want banners with pictures of flares on them.........

doesnt quite make sense...
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jag wrote:
Question to all the guys who think "flares are class". How and why? Why is letting off oversized sparklers at the football such a wonderful idea. Not taking the piss, it's a genuinely serious question.

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Thanks, News. I'm wasted in this place. Jag2011-02-15 12:17:38

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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el grapadura wrote:
For me, when executed and co-ordinated properly, they are the most stunning visual spectacle fans can make at the game. It's a show of support, and a way of celebrating and enjoying being at the game with your team.

I thought that the fans went to the game to see a "stunning visual spectacle" on the pitch.  While that has been a bit tough at the ROF this season, not sure how lighting fireworks are going to change it...
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yellowfury wrote:
I thought that the fans went to the game to see a "stunning visual spectacle" on the pitch.  While that has been a bit tough at the ROF this season, not sure how lighting fireworks are going to change it...

I agree. We're there for football and football only. Lets not chant or sing anymore. And ban the removal of shirts. Or better yet, we should just watch from our living rooms. On mute.
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AJ13 wrote:
yellowfury wrote:
I thought that the fans went to the game to see a "stunning visual spectacle" on the pitch.  While that has been a bit tough at the ROF this season, not sure how lighting fireworks are going to change it...

I agree. We're there for football and football only. Lets not chant or sing anymore. And ban the removal of shirts. Or better yet, we should just watch from our living rooms. On mute.
Chanting, singing, swiss flag etc in my opinion fit within the good humoured image of what the yellow fever is about; "badass" flare displays don't.
 
As per above, any reasons why these flare displays would be great are encouraged (and please, not the "to be more like Hadjuk/Partizan/Red Star ultras" - groups associated with racism and violent football support in eastern europe). 
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AJ13 wrote:
yellowfury wrote:
I thought that the fans went to the game to see a "stunning visual spectacle" on the pitch.  While that has been a bit tough at the ROF this season, not sure how lighting fireworks are going to change it...

I agree. We're there for football and football only. Lets not chant or sing anymore. And ban the removal of shirts. Or better yet, we should just watch from our living rooms. On mute.
 
No! I want to go see them play at the gorund! That's a dumb idea imho
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