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Frickin fans and their Whistles

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
At the group games at the Olympics the Chinese crowd were banging them in unison in conjunction with the (rather spastic) chants.  It made a great noise and contributed to the atmosphere. I wouldn't get rid of them outright.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The difference is that attempts to inject artificial elements into football tend to dampen the crowd-leading atmosphere - as with drums, music being played over the tannoy etc. Hence the chants against those other elements "turn the music off" and "shut those fkn drums up" that came up last season. 
 
Whereas other sports tend to have little atmosphere to start with, so anything brought in tends to help.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
isn't there a family zone for kids? If so, how come there seemed to be a lot of kids (Under 15) down at the front of the fever zone in the first game and slightly higher up in the zone for that last one?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
evil_ash wrote:
football_mum wrote:
....if a kid is more interested in banging those then they shouldn't be at the football!!
 
...and if that kid isn't at the football, then neither are his parents as they would then need to arrange for a sitter.
 
There were a couple of families sitting in front of me on Sunday. They each had two kids in tow - none of the kids were watching the footie, but the bangers kept them interested (and in their seats) and their parents were able to watch the game in relative peace.
 
 
 
How can you watch the match in relative peace with all that damn banging?
 
Sure the parents might be used to it,but everyone around them will be pissed off at it,i guaruntee it

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh and SinZ,its pretty elitest to say ban things in feverzone only...not a fan of that idea.
 
Just dont want them given out as theyre damn annoying in my opinion.
 
But agree with you that it is hard to start any crowd driven atmosphere when thise thngs are being banged. Who remembers the last 5mins of the first half when theannoucner told everyone to "bang the thundersticks"...it was impossible to get anything going.
 
But most importantly (and im saying this again to stress importance) theyre annoying. Been banged in head with them,and deafened by constant banging of them behind me. They dont add any real atmosphere,may as well play music everytime the ball goes out

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
im all for not having whistles theyre annoying but who is the fever zone and yf in general to telll other fans what they can and can't do?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The thundersticks are annoying as hell, create a huge waste problem too. Bad for the environment with all that plastic. Think we really need to make an effort to get the damn things away.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
pedersen wrote:
im all for not having whistles theyre annoying but who is the fever zone and yf in general to telll other fans what they can and can't do?
 
no one is telling other fans what they can and can not do!
people are giving their point of view.
there are other people on here who don't stand in the fever zone who don't like them!
 
 
and yes all that plastic is bad for the enviroment!
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh dear.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Don't think we should be too hard on the kids with whistles...they got more calls right than the knobhead tooting his on the pitch! Give them day-glo t-shirts and a couple of flags I say. 
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tegal wrote:
Been banged in head with them,and deafened by constant banging of them behind me. They dont add any real atmosphere,may as well play music everytime the ball goes out
 
True about being bnged in the head but please don't suggest music, otherwise they will. It's bad enough at the rugby, we definately dont need music before, during or after the game nor in between in breaks.
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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Been banged in head with them,and deafened by constant banging of them behind me. They dont add any real atmosphere,may as well play music everytime the ball goes out
 
True about being bnged in the head but please don't suggest music, otherwise they will. It's bad enough at the rugby, we definately dont need music before, during or after the game nor in between in breaks.


It would be awful to have music during the game like the rugby....doesn't really help the atmosphere there!
Also why don't we lose the adverts before the match and at half-time...don't pay to watch creepy 4 year olds advertising SUVs. If you have to play it contractually how about just the once?!..or with the sound off?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Glake77 - agree completely. I can't stand the adverts and that kid driving car one is particularly bad.

And the banging sticks, by the way, are just advertising gimmicks themselves.
 
Going off topic now: Adverts drive me nuts over here. So many of them and such low quality too. I normally record anything I want to watch so I can forward through them - have to love MySky as you don't have to wait for a programme to finish recording. NZ television runs ads that are twice the legal limit of the UK during prime time. I miss the BBC - no ads at all.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I was more comparing the atmosphere bangers introduce to that of music playing over the speakers. Not suggesting we do it

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Glake77 wrote:
Don't think we should be too hard on the kids with whistles...they got more calls right than the knobhead tooting his on the pitch! Give them day-glo t-shirts and a couple of flags I say. 
 
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I wouldn't mind putting up with the noise if it meant I actually got to go to a frigging game this season.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

A group of kids behind me and my mates almost ruined the Queensland game for us with their annoying behaviour. This included -

- Kicking the seats for the entire 90 minutes, including managing to get through the bottom part and actually kicking us, as well as putting their feet on the seats and kicking us in the back / shoulders

- Banging those bangers for most of the game, several times hitting us on the head / shoulders
 
- Making up annoying chants that made no sense to the tunes of various other chants and singing these 'hilarious' songs very loudly right in our ears
 
- one kid saying he supported Queensland the whole game, in an apparent attempt just to annoy everyone.
 
There was ONE adult there with about 6 or 7 kids who I would say were about 8-10 years old. The adult could not keep them under control for more than 2 minutes at a time, despite us turning round and indicating he should do something quite a few times.
 
Therefore, kids should be banned from sitting near adults without kids!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Steve-O wrote:

A group of kids behind me and my mates almost ruined the Queensland game for us with their annoying behaviour. This included -

- Kicking the seats for the entire 90 minutes, including managing to get through the bottom part and actually kicking us, as well as putting their feet on the seats and kicking us in the back / shoulders

- Banging those bangers for most of the game, several times hitting us on the head / shoulders
 
- Making up annoying chants that made no sense to the tunes of various other chants and singing these 'hilarious' songs very loudly right in our ears
 
- one kid saying he supported Queensland the whole game, in an apparent attempt just to annoy everyone.
 
There was ONE adult there with about 6 or 7 kids who I would say were about 8-10 years old. The adult could not keep them under control for more than 2 minutes at a time, despite us turning round and indicating he should do something quite a few times.
 
Therefore, kids should be banned from sitting near adults without kids!!


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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kick the tourists out of the zone imo.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If these kids are being such a problem, then why don't you ask one the security guys to come and have a quiet word to the adult there???
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

It all went south when you couldn't smack your kid in public and they had nothing to fear but a hard stare!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hmm... I think the law changed to cover more than just public. If fear is the parenting style you favour, I'd suggest you're saving your problems for when the kids decide they're big enough to hit back. Dangerous political territory for a football forum though.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Before the game I rather grumpily stated that the zone was no place for the bangers and the guy one row down who was just in the process of unfolding one stopped, folded it back up, and put it away. Problem solved.

My niece and nephew also have the good sense not to blow theirs up either.

On the plus side, I took mine home and gave them to the kids who have had hours of fun with them having "sword" fights with very little risk of injuring each other. Makes a change.


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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I said the same thing Malky, only to hear the response "this is the yellow fever zone you know."

Given that the same group of people spent the first half asking each other about our own team, who is number 15, who is number 12, who is number 10 etc... I suspect this was their first time.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
May be we could scare the kiddies away from the zone with this chant,
to a tune that use to be played quite often at sporting events, not so
much these days
 
Do you wanna be in our gang our gang our gang
Do you wanna be in our gang oh yeh
We got boiled lollies in our gang our gang
We got boiled lollies in our gang oh yeh
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
splendid!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
what has the world come to when people start complaining about recieving free stuff - let alone the funniest things in the world bangers!! get over yourselves!
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
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robbwatson2008-08-29 16:53:25
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Corkster wrote:
May be we could scare the kiddies away from the zone with this chant,
to a tune that use to be played quite often at sporting events, not so
much these days
 
Do you wanna be in our gang our gang our gang
Do you wanna be in our gang oh yeh
We got boiled lollies in our gang our gang
We got boiled lollies in our gang oh yeh
 
Perhaps we could get the man himself, Gary Glitter, to perform at half-time. I'm sure the parents would make sure the kids steered clear if that happened, no?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
what has the world come to when people start complaining about recieving free stuff - let alone the funniest things in the world bangers!! get over yourselves!


you're just complaining about people complaining - stop complaining
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
what has the world come to when people start complaining about recieving free stuff - let alone the funniest things in the world bangers!! get over yourselves!
 
 
The bangers are pretty rubbish and if some like Micheal Oliver think that commenting on them is,"the pussy-willow, (what the hell does that mean?) whining of a couple of douchebags",  as described on the locked thread then so be it. If people want to  moan about something then why can't they?
 
I prefer the chanting not the sticks. As anyone who comes to a match for the first time will tell you the one thing they remember about the experience is the chanting and singing. Not people banging tubes, blowing whistles or hitting drums. But if they have to stay they have to stay - f*ck all I can do about it and in the grand scheme of things not the biggest headache to put up with.
 
The wife thinks differently to me in that as long as it gives the kids something to do and its not in the zone then she thinks they are alright.
 
 
 

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Whistles = Bad. Bangers = Meh.

Whistles are a genuine nuisance as they get confused for the reff's whistle and I'd hate to see a player of any team conceed a goal because some loser in the crowd has blown his whistle and a player thought it had been the reff.

Bangers are alright, they improved the noise in the *clap, clap, clap* 'PHOENIX' chants on Sunday. I wouldn't use them though.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Whistles are a genuine nuisance as they get confused for the reff's whistle and I'd hate to see a player of any team conceed a goal because some loser in the crowd has blown his whistle and a player thought it had been the reff.


Apparently (I'm not a ref) Ref's also have hand signals for some things. Though if you're not looking at the ref, it could still get confusing...
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:
Whistles & bangers every nix fans worst nightmare. When they jump on those bangers and "bang"! you feel like you're in a drive by!


Just give them inflatable hand eh?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Good idea daniellb, waving "the Hand" wouldn't interfer with the crowd chants/singing. A silent way of also enjoying yourself. I'm glad you pointed that out. I've a spare one if you'd like to join in! Top man for bringing it to everyone's attention. You're awesome mate!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I know the kids!!!

irony of the matter is..one of the kids dads works for redbadge!

but yeah i hate whistle kids


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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
SiNZ wrote:

I said the same thing Malky, only to hear the response "this is the yellow fever zone you know."

Given that the same group of people spent the first half asking each other about our own team, who is number 15, who is number 12, who is number 10 etc... I suspect this was their first time.



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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Whistles are a genuine nuisance as they get confused for the reff's whistle...


Just ask Kuwait's 1982 World Cup squad
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hate those whistles - too bad we cant really do anything about it
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
the whistles for the chant that just says Phoenix sounds cool on tv. but whistles are very cricket!
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