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Posted April 26, 2021 03:08 · last edited April 26, 2021 03:10

kwlap
Ryan
carlind
number8
I watched Waine a few times at David Farrington Park. He is fast, explosive and strong. Pops up everywhere and is dangerous direct in front of the goal. You could clearly see he's on a different level. He looks so young and harmless, but when it's game time he turn into a beast!
Smeltz4PM
Honestly I was critical of Waine when he first started getting sub appearances, seemed to run around with no idea of where he was supposed to be or what to do.

A few starts though and he looks every bit an A-league player. Not just the goals but his body positioning and hold up play seem to get better every week.
Put a three year contract in front of this kid asap.

Yeah, similarly, I saw him at Kiwitea Street against Auckland City receive a ball on the half turn, open up his body and smash it into the top far corner, not to mention how he was in Poland at the U20s or in Fiji where he scored plenty. It’s a major reason why you need to give teenagers leeway at this level, like Cacace and Sutton also were given at the start. It’s something I think the Phoenix have done a lot better in recent time than earlier, though not having the reserves was also a big factor previously.
I always thought it was strange that Herbert would prefer Australian Journeymen over developing Kiwi talent. As coach of the national team he had the opportunity to develop players in the nix for the future. Our biggest advantage is one that we never really exploited until recently, and that's the fact that we have a monopoly over all of the footballing talent of NZ. Whereas the Australian clubs have (on average) a population pool of about 2 million each to draw from, we've got a population pool of 7 million which is a heck of an advantage.
Not sure it is as simple as that. Remember that the academy wasn't in place in Rickis time, or was only just starting when he left. We had young players around such as Dolye, Rufer and Ridenton, but there was no way to get them game time. That meant that picking up experienced players from Oz was more reliable than going for young kiwis who can't get any game time. 
Also, the population of NZ is just under 5mil, not 7mil. 



We have access to the 25 million Australians, same as the other 12 teams. Therefore, while they get two million each we get the two million Australians, plus five million Kiwis. Another way to look at it is 12 teams battle for the 25 million Australians but we also have a monopoly on an additional five million

Herbert didn't have Ridenton, he had Kosta and Marco, both who were good enough to go straight into top teams as foreigners yet struggled for game time here. 

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kwlap
Ryan
carlind
number8
I watched Waine a few times at David Farrington Park. He is fast, explosive and strong. Pops up everywhere and is dangerous direct in front of the goal. You could clearly see he's on a different level. He looks so young and harmless, but when it's game time he turn into a beast!
Smeltz4PM
Honestly I was critical of Waine when he first started getting sub appearances, seemed to run around with no idea of where he was supposed to be or what to do.

A few starts though and he looks every bit an A-league player. Not just the goals but his body positioning and hold up play seem to get better every week.
Put a three year contract in front of this kid asap.

Yeah, similarly, I saw him at Kiwitea Street against Auckland City receive a ball on the half turn, open up his body and smash it into the top far corner, not to mention how he was in Poland at the U20s or in Fiji where he scored plenty. It’s a major reason why you need to give teenagers leeway at this level, like Cacace and Sutton also were given at the start. It’s something I think the Phoenix have done a lot better in recent time than earlier, though not having the reserves was also a big factor previously.
I always thought it was strange that Herbert would prefer Australian Journeymen over developing Kiwi talent. As coach of the national team he had the opportunity to develop players in the nix for the future. Our biggest advantage is one that we never really exploited until recently, and that's the fact that we have a monopoly over all of the footballing talent of NZ. Whereas the Australian clubs have (on average) a population pool of about 2 million each to draw from, we've got a population pool of 7 million which is a heck of an advantage.
Not sure it is as simple as that. Remember that the academy wasn't in place in Rickis time, or was only just starting when he left. We had young players around such as Dolye, Rufer and Ridenton, but there was no way to get them game time. That meant that picking up experienced players from Oz was more reliable than going for young kiwis who can't get any game time. 
Also, the population of NZ is just under 5mil, not 7mil. 



We have access to the 25 million Australians, same as the other 12 teams. Therefore, while they get two million each we get the two million Australians, plus five million Kiwis.

Herbert didn't have Ridenton, he had Kosta and Marco, both who were good enough to go straight into top teams as foreigners yet struggled for game time here.