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Posted December 29, 2014 06:36 · last edited December 29, 2014 08:25

Warwick Hunt wrote:


I was not objecting to shirts! 

It's football etiquette, not 'tribal Brish crap' . Any of the following displays of flags/banners/blankets would cause a reaction. An Inter flag on display at AC home 'terrace', a River Plate flag in Boca's home 'terrace',a Real flag at the Noucamp or a Nix flag anywhere at Kiwitea St

Totally get that the objection was to a banner/emblem/blanket and NOT to shirts.

Accept that the subsequent discussion says these are just examples.

The problem I have is not with WHAT has been said but HOW it was said.

And these examples are a further illustration of that problem.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the colours of clubs not involved in rivalry with the Phoenix being displayed. 

So I have no problem with a Liverpool banner/blanket/emblem. No problem at all.

I also don't have a problem with away fans joining us in the Fever zone. But that is a different debate.

I DO however have a problem with a Victory/Roar/Perth (or any other A League or ASB Premiership club) banner, flag or coat of arms in the Fever zone.

To me what it is that is worth objecting to is really important.

If there was an AC Milan, banner in the members end at Inter Milan, that would be a riot.

If there was an AC Milan bannr in the fever zone - completely different situation, and to me at least, no issue.

A WSW banner in the Fever Zone (ever, but PARTICULARLY when we are playing WSW) - unacceptable.

A WSW banner at Inter Milan? Humourous and probably trivial.

A Phoenix Banner at an A League club home end, not acceptable.

A Phoenix Banner at an English ground - kudos.

I think you guys picked the right issue, but the wrong way of objecting to it. I also think you objected to something that didn't need to be objected to, as there is no rivalry with Liverpool.

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bwtcf edited December 29, 2014 08:25
Warwick Hunt wrote:


I was not objecting to shirts! 

It's football etiquette, not 'tribal Brish crap' . Any of the following displays of flags/banners/blankets would cause a reaction. An Inter flag on display at AC home 'terrace', a River Plate flag in Boca's home 'terrace',a Real flag at the Noucamp or a Nix flag anywhere at Kiwitea St

Totally get that the objection was to a banner/emblem/blanket and NOT to shirts.

Accept that the subsequent discussion says these are just examples.

The problem I have is not with WHAT has been said but HOW it was said.

And these examples are a further illustration of that problem.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the colours of clubs not involved in rivalry with the Phoenix being displayed. 

So I have no problem with a Liverpool banner/blanket/emblem. No problem at all.

I also don't have a problem with away fans joining us in the Fever zone. But that is a different debate.

I DO however have a problem with a Victory/Roar/Perth (or any other A League or ASB Premiership club) banner, flag or coat of arms in the Fever zone.

To me what it is that is worth objecting to is really important.

If there was an AC Milan, banner in the members end at Inter Milan, that would be a riot.

If there was an AC Milan bannr in the fever zone - completely different situation, and to me at least, no issue.

A WSW banner in the Fever Zone (ever, but PARTICULARLY when we are playign WSW) - unacceptable.

A WSW banner at Inter Milan? Humourous and probably trivial.

A Phoenix Banner at an A League club home end, not acceptable.

A Phoenix Banner at an English ground - kudos.

I think you guys picked the right issue, but the wrong way of objecting to it. I also think you objected to something that didn't need to be objected to, as there is no rivalry with Liverpool.

bwtcf edited December 29, 2014 06:41
Warwick Hunt wrote:


I was not objecting to shirts! 

It's football etiquette, not 'tribal Brish crap' . Any of the following displays of flags/banners/blankets would cause a reaction. An Inter flag on display at AC home 'terrace', a River Plate flag in Boca's home 'terrace',a Real flag at the Noucamp or a Nix flag anywhere at Kiwitea St

Totally get that the objection was to a banner/emblem/blanket and NOT to shirts.

Accept that the subsequent discussion says these are just examples.

The problem I have is not with WHAT has been said but HOW it was said.

And these examples are a further illustration of that problem.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the colours of clubs not involved in rivalry with the Phoenix being displayed. 

So I have no problem with a Liverpool banner/blanket/emblem. No problem at all.

I also don't have a problem with away fans joining us in the Fever zone. But that is a different debate.

I DO however have a problem with a Victory/Roar/Perth (or any other A League or ASB Premiership club) banner, flag or coat of arms in the Fever zone.

To me what it is that is worth objecting to is really important.

If there was an AC Milan, banner in the members end at Inter Milan, that would be a riot.

If there was an AC Milan bannr in the fever zone - completely different situation, and to me at least, no issue.

A WSW banner in the Fever Zone (ever, but PARTICULARLY when we are playign WSW) - unacceptable.

A WSW banner at Inter Milan? Humourous and probably trivial.

A Phoenix Banner at an A League club home end, not acceptable.

A Phoenix Banner at an English ground - kudos.

I think you guys picked the right issue, but the wrong way of objecting to it. I also think you onjected to something that didn't need to be objected to, as there is no rivalry with Liverpool.

bwtcf edited December 29, 2014 06:41
Warwick Hunt wrote:


I was not objecting to shirts! 

It's football etiquette, not 'tribal Brish crap' . Any of the following displays of flags/banners/blankets would cause a reaction. An Inter flag on display at AC home 'terrace', a River Plate flag in Boca's home 'terrace',a Real flag at the Noucamp or a Nix flag anywhere at Kiwitea St

Totally get that the objection was to a banner/emblem/blanket and NOT to shirts.

Accept that the subsequent discussion says these are just examples.

The problem I have is not with WHAT has been said but HOW it was said.

And these examples are a further illustration of that problem.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the colours of clubs not involved in rivalry with the Phoenix being displayed. 

So I have no problem with a Liverpool banner/blanket/emblem. No problem at all.

I also don't have a problem with away fans joining us in the Fever zone. But that is a different debate.

I DO however have a problem with a Victory/Roar/Perth (or any other A League or ASB Premiership club) banner, flag or coat of arms in the Fever zone.

To me what it is that is worth objecting to is really important.

If there was an AC Milan, banner in the members end at Inter Milan, that would be a riot.

If there was an AC Milan bannr in the fever zone - completely different situation, and to me at least, no issue.

A WSW banner in the Fever Zone (ever, but PARTICULARLY when we are playign WSW) - unacceptable.

A WSW banner at Inter Milan? Humourous and probably trivial.

A Phoenix Banner at an A League club home end, not acceptable.

A Phoenix Banner at an English ground - kudos.

I think you guys picked the right issue, but the wrong way of objecting to it.

bwtcf edited December 29, 2014 06:38
Warwick Hunt wrote:


I was not objecting to shirts! 

It's football etiquette, not 'tribal Brish crap' . Any of the following displays of flags/banners/blankets would cause a reaction. An Inter flag on display at AC home 'terrace', a River Plate flag in Boca's home 'terrace',a Real flag at the Noucamp or a Nix flag anywhere at Kiwitea St

Totally get that the objection was to a banner/emblem/blanket and NOT to shirts.

Accept that the subsequent discussion says these are just examples.

The problem I have is not with WHAT has been said but HOW it was said.

And these examples are a further illustration of that problem.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the colours of clubs not involvd in rivalry with the Phoenix being displayed.

I also don't have a problem with away fans joining us in the Fever zone. But that is a different debate.

I DO however have a problem with a Victory/Roar/Perth (or any other A League or ASB Premiership club) banner, flag or coat of arms in the Fever zone.

To me what it is that is worth objecting to is really important.

If there was an AC Milan, banner in the members end at Inter Milan, that would be a riot.

If there was an AC Milan bannr in the fever zone - completely different situation, and to me at least, no issue.

A WSW banner in the Fever Zone (ever, but PARTICULARLY when we are playign WSW) - unacceptable.

A WSW banner at Inter Milan? Humourous and probably trivial.

A Phoenix Banner at an A League club home end, not acceptable.

A Phoenix Banner at an English ground - kudos.

I think you guys picked the right issue, but the wrong way of objecting to it.