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Posted December 29, 2014 06:29 · last edited December 29, 2014 06:29

ConanTroutman wrote:

Warwick Hunt wrote:

ConanTroutman wrote:

Warwick Hunt wrote:

Tegal wrote:

Warwick Hunt wrote:

Tegal wrote:

people can wear or display whatever they like (within reason obviously). Obviously would prefer phoenix but it's not our place to tell others what they can and can't do.



Actually football etiquette is you wear home colours in the home end

Non-Phoenix shirts/caps have been accepted in the FZ since the first season 

I don't think that a club's shield and name should be displayed  over fence/railing in the FZ 

Obviously I am in a minority.

This is NZ not some tribal British crap where we go abusing people for "not wearing our colours". You've got to realise that just because there is a football culture somewhere that it won't be the same all over the world. 

I went to the World Cup in Brazil in my nix shirt to every game and never got abused once. Others have been to games on Australia in nix shirts, and didn't get abused. People have worn nix tops to ASBP games and not been abused. And so on. 

Also just because you consider something to be "football etiquette" doesn't mean it is right. Maybe "football etiquette" needs changing



I was not objecting to shirts! 

It's football etiquette, not 'tribal Brish crap' . Any of the following displays of flags/banners/blankets would cause a reaction. An Inter flag on display at AC home 'terrace', a River Plate flag in Boca's home 'terrace',a Real flag at the Noucamp or a Nix flag anywhere at Kiwitea St

So the Nix and Liverpool have a rivalry comparable to the Milan derby, the Classico, or the Super Classico now?



If you're going to disagree with my opinion at least read my posts 

It's never been about any specific club, it's my opinion regarding the display of a non-Phoenix banner/blanket in the FZ 

The examples used, were a counter-argument (not an absolute truth)  to a previous post which called it 'some tribal British crap'  

Sorry, I was just trying to point out the problem in your examples. For the record, I generally agree that people shouldn't display other clubs banners/ flags in the FZ, but I think in this instance, knowing it was a kids blanket and why it was there, the "terrace chants" are completely uncalled for, and it's easy to see how a family would not appreciate that at all. We should be making the zone as welcoming to everyone as possible. This is not the way to do that.



The blanket was draped as a banner, displaying the club's emblem and full club name, not being used as a blanket
I had a conversation with the adult 
The chant was aimed at the banner not the daughter and family
I regret the upset caused to the daughter and the family 
I trust the YF will never again express such chants as "Is she really going out with him?", "Same old Aussies" , "The Referees sharke and he's wearing blue",  "Seagull" and any other chants which are specific to gender, club or nationality 

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Warwick Hunt edited December 29, 2014 06:29
ConanTroutman wrote:
Warwick Hunt wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:
Warwick Hunt wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Warwick Hunt wrote:
Tegal wrote:

people can wear or display whatever they like (within reason obviously). Obviously would prefer phoenix but it's not our place to tell others what they can and can't do.



Actually football etiquette is you wear home colours in the home end

Non-Phoenix shirts/caps have been accepted in the FZ since the first season 

I don't think that a club's shield and name should be displayed  over fence/railing in the FZ 

Obviously I am in a minority.

This is NZ not some tribal British crap where we go abusing people for "not wearing our colours". You've got to realise that just because there is a football culture somewhere that it won't be the same all over the world. 

I went to the World Cup in Brazil in my nix shirt to every game and never got abused once. Others have been to games on Australia in nix shirts, and didn't get abused. People have worn nix tops to ASBP games and not been abused. And so on. 

Also just because you consider something to be "football etiquette" doesn't mean it is right. Maybe "football etiquette" needs changing



I was not objecting to shirts! 

It's football etiquette, not 'tribal Brish crap' . Any of the following displays of flags/banners/blankets would cause a reaction. An Inter flag on display at AC home 'terrace', a River Plate flag in Boca's home 'terrace',a Real flag at the Noucamp or a Nix flag anywhere at Kiwitea St
So the Nix and Liverpool have a rivalry comparable to the Milan derby, the Classico, or the Super Classico now?


If you're going to disagree with my opinion at least read my posts 

It's never been about any specific club, it's my opinion regarding the display of a non-Phoenix banner/blanket in the FZ 

The examples used, were a counter-argument (not an absolute truth)  to a previous post which called it 'some tribal British crap'  
Sorry, I was just trying to point out the problem in your examples. For the record, I generally agree that people shouldn't display other clubs banners/ flags in the FZ, but I think in this instance, knowing it was a kids blanket and why it was there, the "terrace chants" are completely uncalled for, and it's easy to see how a family would not appreciate that at all. We should be making the zone as welcoming to everyone as possible. This is not the way to do that.


The blanket was draped as a banner, displaying the club's emblem and full club name, not being used as a blanket
I had a conversation with the adult 
The chant was aimed at the banner not the daughter and family
I regret the upset caused to the daughter and the family 
I trust the YF will never again express such chants as "Is she really going out with him?", "Same old Aussies" , "The Referees sharke and he's wearing blue",  "Seagull" and any other chant which are specific to gender, club or nationality 
Warwick Hunt edited December 29, 2014 06:29
ConanTroutman wrote:
Warwick Hunt wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:
Warwick Hunt wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Warwick Hunt wrote:
Tegal wrote:

people can wear or display whatever they like (within reason obviously). Obviously would prefer phoenix but it's not our place to tell others what they can and can't do.



Actually football etiquette is you wear home colours in the home end

Non-Phoenix shirts/caps have been accepted in the FZ since the first season 

I don't think that a club's shield and name should be displayed  over fence/railing in the FZ 

Obviously I am in a minority.

This is NZ not some tribal British crap where we go abusing people for "not wearing our colours". You've got to realise that just because there is a football culture somewhere that it won't be the same all over the world. 

I went to the World Cup in Brazil in my nix shirt to every game and never got abused once. Others have been to games on Australia in nix shirts, and didn't get abused. People have worn nix tops to ASBP games and not been abused. And so on. 

Also just because you consider something to be "football etiquette" doesn't mean it is right. Maybe "football etiquette" needs changing



I was not objecting to shirts! 

It's football etiquette, not 'tribal Brish crap' . Any of the following displays of flags/banners/blankets would cause a reaction. An Inter flag on display at AC home 'terrace', a River Plate flag in Boca's home 'terrace',a Real flag at the Noucamp or a Nix flag anywhere at Kiwitea St
So the Nix and Liverpool have a rivalry comparable to the Milan derby, the Classico, or the Super Classico now?


If you're going to disagree with my opinion at least read my posts 

It's never been about any specific club, it's my opinion regarding the display of a non-Phoenix banner/blanket in the FZ 

The examples used, were a counter-argument (not an absolute truth)  to a previous post which called it 'some tribal British crap'  
Sorry, I was just trying to point out the problem in your examples. For the record, I generally agree that people shouldn't display other clubs banners/ flags in the FZ, but I think in this instance, knowing it was a kids blanket and why it was there, the "terrace chants" are completely uncalled for, and it's easy to see how a family would not appreciate that at all. We should be making the zone as welcoming to everyone as possible. This is not the way to do that.


The blanket was draped as a banner, displaying the club's emblem and full club name, not being used as a blanket
I had a conversation with the adult 
The chant was aimed at the banner not the daghter and family
I regret the upset caused to the daughter and the family 
I trust the YF will never again express such chants as "Is she really going out with him?", "Same old Aussies" , "The Referees sharke and he's wearing blue",  "Seagull" and any other chant which are specific to gender, club or nationality