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Posted January 10, 2013 04:47 · last edited January 10, 2013 04:48

paulm wrote:

sanchez played a deep-lying playmaker's role, more pirlo than manny, funny to see so many using Sanchez and DM in the same sentence...


Thought it was very promising though. If we want dani to stay there and have someone else play ahead of him centrally, I'd choose fenton. Although he can be a little naive in possession he does apparently have the control and passing range to do it - I'm sure when we signed him I watched some youtube video of him in the states or something and he was playing in midfield?

Also don't think he has the pace to be a long term winger, even at this level. 


As a side note It's a common arsene wenger ploy to put young central mids out wide for a season or two to develop their game  without the positional pressure of central midfield, then shift them inside afterward (eg Rosicky and Diaby a few seasons back, Ramsey right now, he also hinted he was going to do it with Wilshere in 2010/11 but injuries prevented it).

I was using the term DM simply to indicate a midfielder who plays deep, ie: one of the '2' in a 4-2-3-1. As far as I see it a defensive midfielder is a position, a deep lying playmaker is a style of player. I'd call the style of defensive midfielder whose primary duties a tackling and breaking up attacks a holding midfielder. Which is why I'd play Muscat and Sanchez side by side - a holding  midfielder and a deep lying playmaker as two defensive midfielders to balance each other out. 

edit: although obviously with Muscat still suspended Smith or Lia would have to do

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ConanTroutman edited January 10, 2013 04:48
paulm wrote:

sanchez played a deep-lying playmaker's role, more pirlo than manny, funny to see so many using Sanchez and DM in the same sentence...


Thought it was very promising though. If we want dani to stay there and have someone else play ahead of him centrally, I'd choose fenton. Although he can be a little naive in possession he does apparently have the control and passing range to do it - I'm sure when we signed him I watched some youtube video of him in the states or something and he was playing in midfield?

Also don't think he has the pace to be a long term winger, even at this level. 


As a side note It's a common arsene wenger ploy to put young central mids out wide for a season or two to develop their game  without the positional pressure of central midfield, then shift them inside afterward (eg Rosicky and Diaby a few seasons back, Ramsey right now, he also hinted he was going to do it with Wilshere in 2010/11 but injuries prevented it).

I was using the term DM simply to indicate a midfielder who plays deep, ie: one of the '2' in a 4-2-3-1. As far as I see it a defensive midfielder is a position, a deep lying playmaker is a style of player. I'd call the style of defensive midfielder whose primary duties a tackling and breaking up attacks a holding midfielder. Which is why I'd play Muscat and Sanchez side by side - a holding  midfielder and a deep lying playmaker as two defensive midfielders to balance each other out. 
ConanTroutman edited January 10, 2013 04:47
paulm wrote:

sanchez played a deep-lying playmaker's role, more pirlo than manny, funny to see so many using Sanchez and DM in the same sentence...


Thought it was very promising though. If we want dani to stay there and have someone else play ahead of him centrally, I'd choose fenton. Although he can be a little naive in possession he does apparently have the control and passing range to do it - I'm sure when we signed him I watched some youtube video of him in the states or something and he was playing in midfield?

Also don't think he has the pace to be a long term winger, even at this level. 


As a side note It's a common arsene wenger ploy to put young central mids out wide for a season or two to develop their game  without the positional pressure of central midfield, then shift them inside afterward (eg Rosicky and Diaby a few seasons back, Ramsey right now, he also hinted he was going to do it with Wilshere in 2010/11 but injuries prevented it).

I was using the term DM simply to indicate a midfielder who plays deep, ie: one of the '2' in a 4-3-2-1. As far as I see it a defensive midfielder is a position, a deep lying playmaker is a style of player. I'd call the style of defensive midfielder whose primary duties a tackling and breaking up attacks a holding midfielder. Which is why I'd play Muscat and Sanchez side by side - a holding  midfielder and a deep lying playmaker as two defensive midfielders to balance each other out.