Phoenix alienating out of town fans?

Gangsta, look up, joachim2008-10-17 15:12:23

it was 24 all.  Stacy john missed the conversion from just about right infront.

Stop being such a cranky bugger Joachim, he would have been about 6 at the time. I was the same age and can't even remember that competition.
Critical_Lemon2008-10-17 15:17:25

It was definetly 24 all. The warriors scored an equalising try in the last minute of the game,and jones missed the conversion from right in front of the posts.

Jag2008-10-17 15:29:06

back in the good old days when a draw was a draw and there was no extra time

TBH, I followed league long before I followed football (along with ice hockey it was the main sport I followed), and the fact that the Warriors tried to pass them off as "New Zealand" when they're strictly based in Auckland made it a lot harder for me to support them as a second team (after Illawarra of course). So as a result I've been pretty apathetic about them ever since the name change. I did support them a bit as Auckland Warriors, even going to one of their first matches (against Western Suburbs at Campbelltown) with my father (who's a kiwi). But since the identity change, nope.

(That being said, as an Australian, it's naturally harder for me to cheer for "New Zealand" anyway...)

The Phoenix serve the entire football community, not just Wellington. The 'nix have no obligation to help Waitakere prepare for the CWC. And the Phoenix helping Hawke's Bay United is not entirely in the best interests of Team Wellington . And I believe the Warriors have provided support to league south of the Bombays as well. That, along with "sticking it to those bloody Aussies" should be enough. There's no need for either team to use the name "New Zealand" IMHO.

(...though I can understand the marketing benefits.)

meh, my memory fails me and by the fact that some of your compatriots do remember a game being played in chch (which I don't seem to remember) it would seem that wiki has failed you. It's not right all the time (mainly because people missing their marbles such as myself can contribute to it)  joachim2008-10-17 15:38:34

Gangsta!2008-10-17 15:38:09

I remember that i used to be annoyed that auckland flogged their fail football side onto the rest of the country by rebranding from auckland to NZ.

Sorry News, but I have to have a bit of a go:

In essence what you say is true. Tudjman (Croatian President in the 1990s) insisted on changing Dinamo's name after independence because he thought it sounded too communist. The name was first changed to HASK Gradjanski (from the two clubs which were amalgamated in 1945 to form Dinamo), but was then in 1993 changed to Croatia Zagreb. But I need to point out here that Croatia is not the Croatian name for Croatia, s there was never any sense of the club somehow being representative of the whole country, so the parallel with the New Zealand Warriors doesn't really work there (guess the same goes for Austria Vienna too).

Like you said, BBB (I include myself here as well) were very unhappy with the name change, and continued to refer to the club as Dinamo, and continued to press for an official return to the name. I remember a rally at the Square in Zagreb after the war finished and Tudjman was glowing in outlining the great future, and all that other political crap, and we started chanting Dinamo, Dinamo which really pissed him off. We couldn't get the name changed back while Tudjman was alive, but once he was out of the way, the official resistance to the name change weakened, and the Dinamo became Dinamo once again in February 2000.


And just in case there was some confusion, that is the Dinamo shirt in my avatar...

The Kingz were never the Auckland Kingz.  They were the Football Kingz.

HNL = Hrvatska Nogometna Liga

Only top 2 divisions are HNL, 3rd division down they're regional.


And I'll stay on-topic from now on.

True...though beign based in auckland it was kind of implied.Werent they the first to rebrand to NZ though? Before the whole "lets rebrand our side to NZ" thing started happening,it was sort of assumed that the city a side was based in,was what it was representing. Which i actually think is right.

No, the Warriors were New Zealand long before the Knights came about.

The Kingz of course did play competition games outside Auckland though, three here, Christchurch, new Plymouth, hamilton.

I also watched pre-season/mid-season games in Palmy, Wanganui, Napier and Rotorua plus they played some pre-season in the South island.

EG, this thread has more hi-jacks than a shipment of arms near Somalia... one more didn't hurt.

Gangsta!2008-10-17 15:52:49

Wynton got both goals.

The also played Perth there...3-3 draw from memory.Wynton again and some bizaree own goals.

My first Kingz memory - THAT Wynton volley during their first season.  Or am I thinking of something else?  Hard News?

One against Newcastle?

Turn and score... fap, fap, and indeed fap.  Criminal that it isn't on Youtube or anywhere.

OK, gratuitous 3000th post.

Do I get anything for this magnificent feat?

Yes, a week off to get a life.  Hang on, i'll just ban you.

Yes, a week off to get a life.  Hang on, i'll just ban you.

Trying to boost your post count with thatdouble post there?

Won't work, I'll still catch up with you by the end of next week.

so what happens if you got near twice that? 

I have no idea what you mean, I have thousands less than you...

You do Chris, but your posts/day are way down these days.
Hard News2008-10-17 16:30:00

yeah i kicked a nasty habit 

So is that ban coming or not then?

I won't tell you what my real tally is then Special One.

No, EG, if you want it then it's not fun... that really doesn't sound good.

No, it doesn't.

Whatever you do, don't change to "NZ Phoenix", I just start hating it because it start to suggest that it is the end of the road from Professional Football in New Zealand when it should not be. And that we should be looking to either turn NZFC into professional league in the future or another A-league team from NZ.

What put me off NZ Knights was, it when pear-shaped after Wynton Rufer left the Football Kingz with the board changing and booted Chris Turner out and then it was the same idiots on the NZ Knights as well as having very few New Zealand players with lower division English players that was suppose to represent NZ and not Auckland. It seem to me it was a run as lower division English club than the top New Zealand Club. I might have called it "England Knights" at one stage.

As for the NZ Warriors, I still follow them but they always be Auckland Warriors to me and that I really don't see any other possible NZ League team into the NRL unless it is a Waikato team if any.

NRL is the top league competition in the world, it had a huge following in New Zealand before the warriors came around, and many kiwis play in the other NRL teams.

the 'Nix will pick up as the A-League does and when we start to get some success, and media hype. Probably would help if we made the world cup.

I met a Phoenix supporter at the CCM game just recently,He was born and bred in Sydney.He comes on this site under the name of Pumpa. Go figure.

I live in Wellington but I wish the Warriors would change their name to the Auckland Warriors _ I'll still watch them every week but I'll stop cringing every time I hear the stupid name. 

Actually when I am upset with them I do call them Auckland warriors.

It's so convenient.  Brilliant win by THE Warriors .... Bloody Auckland Warriors lost again.

Mike check, 1, 2.