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Posted May 15, 2018 22:11 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:34

Maaaaaaatt wrote:
coochiee wrote:

So if Wellnix had been successful in flogging the club for 15 million, how much money does everyone think they would have made/lost bearing in mind other revenue streams?

Without looking at financial accounts for last 7 years, simply impossible to know. 

But if continually told need crowds of 10k to break even, but in truth averaging 5-6k, someone smart with numbers could have a stab.

My guess is still a loss.

Just did a back of the envelope based on the attendance figures for games at westpac on Ultimate A-league. I couldn't be arsed bringing in the travelling circus games.  

Assuming:
10k attendance is break even &

$15 is the average revenue per ticket

Welnix would have lost $3.2 million since September 2011, or $40k per game. Lifting the average ticket to $20 would bring the loss up to $4.3 million so the numbers are very rough.

Interesting back of the envelope stuff. Found an old article where Welnix state they funded a $2M shortfall in their first year 2011/2012, which dropped to $1M in their 2nd year of ownership.

Terry S apparently tipped in $1.5M a season, when paying the players first over the IRD.

 https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9673284/Th...

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Unknown editor edited March 18, 2021 07:34
Maaaaaaatt wrote:
coochiee wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

So if Wellnix had been successful in flogging the club for 15 million, how much money does everyone think they would have made/lost bearing in mind other revenue streams?

Without looking at financial accounts for last 7 years, simply impossible to know. 

But if continually told need crowds of 10k to break even, but in truth averaging 5-6k, someone smart with numbers could have a stab.

My guess is still a loss.

Just did a back of the envelope based on the attendance figures for games at westpac on Ultimate A-league. I couldn't be arsed bringing in the travelling circus games.  

Assuming:
10k attendance is break even &

$15 is the average revenue per ticket

Welnix would have lost $3.2 million since September 2011, or $40k per game. Lifting the average ticket to $20 would bring the loss up to $4.3 million so the numbers are very rough.

Interesting back of the envelope stuff. Found an old article where Welnix state they funded a $2M shortfall in their first year 2011/2012, which dropped to $1M in their 2nd year of ownership.

Terry S apparently tipped in $1.5M a season, when paying the players first over the IRD.

 https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9673284/Th...

Unknown editor edited May 15, 2018 22:30
Maaaaaaatt wrote:
coochiee wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

So if Wellnix had been successful in flogging the club for 15 million, how much money does everyone think they would have made/lost bearing in mind other revenue streams?

Without looking at financial accounts for last 7 years, simply impossible to know. 

But if continually told need crowds of 10k to break even, but in truth averaging 5-6k, someone smart with numbers could have a stab.

My guess is still a loss.

Just did a back of the envelope based on the attendance figures for games at westpac on Ultimate A-league. I couldn't be arsed bringing in the travelling circus games.  

Assuming:
10k attendance is break even &

$15 is the average revenue per ticket

Welnix would have lost $3.2 million since September 2011, or $40k per game. Lifting the average ticket to $20 would bring the loss up to $4.3 million so the numbers are very rough.

Interesting back of the envelope stuff. Found an old article where Welnix state they funded a $2M shortfall in their first year 2011/2012, which dropped to $1M in their 2nd year of ownership.

Terry S apparently tipped in $1.5M a season, when paying the players first over the IRD.

Unknown editor edited May 15, 2018 22:24
Maaaaaaatt wrote:
coochiee wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

So if Wellnix had been successful in flogging the club for 15 million, how much money does everyone think they would have made/lost bearing in mind other revenue streams?

Without looking at financial accounts for last 7 years, simply impossible to know. 

But if continually told need crowds of 10k to break even, but in truth averaging 5-6k, someone smart with numbers could have a stab.

My guess is still a loss.

Just did a back of the envelope based on the attendance figures for games at westpac on Ultimate A-league. I couldn't be arsed bringing in the travelling circus games.  

Assuming:
10k attendance is break even &

$15 is the average revenue per ticket

Welnix would have lost $3.2 million since September 2011, or $40k per game. Lifting the average ticket to $20 would bring the loss up to $4.3 million so the numbers are very rough.

Interesting back of the envelope stuff. Terry S apparently tipped in $1.5M a season, when paying the players but not the IRD.