Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA

I was thinking he was out of line criticising the crouds, which is criticising us. It's doubtful that any new Australian team will do better than us. Just look at Melbourne City.

At the start of last season Gallop said that half of the teams in the league would make profits or break even for that season. In the end only 3 teams didn't lose money. Ratings and croud numbers across the league are trending down. The FFA should just be glad that anyone is willing to take on owning a club in the current environment rather than asking for more money for a new owner to take a liability off their hands.

Of course, it's all our fault. Swap us for a South Sydney team and all of a sudden everything will be better. 

Interesting comment in one of Conan's linked articles;

"But for the sake of context, these issues are not confined to just the A-League. More than half of AFL teams lost money in 2014, while only a couple of NRL clubs recorded profits. Queensland could be the only Super Rugby franchise to finish in the black this year."

Yea My first thought was it seemed a little rough lumping all of the Aussies into the bad guy.  But then right afterwards it says:

"The fans across the league are behind us. The other clubs are behind us. The Wellington City Council and Westpac Stadium are behind us. The sponsors are behind us. But there remains one thing that all that support simply can’t do – they can’t fill the Stadium next Friday night if you don’t turn up."

And they probably don't want to say "don't let the FFA" or "don't let Gallop" because they dont want to start the crap slinging fest that we have seen between the FFA and everyone else in the last 12 months.

On the other hand he has actual first hand experience with all of the various stakeholders we are talking about, was capitain of the All Whites, has played for the club and is smart enough to know what he is talking about?

Maybe Thomson just figured that running one cellar dweller team was enough.

So, probably just registered players database; what, approx 100,000? Why hasn't that database been used for Nix membership offer? NZF have a vested interest in Nix survival. Easy tool that should have been immediately utilised. Still waiting.

would they be allowed to?

Presumably the information in that database wouldn't have been gathered to send Phoenix material. 

It's better than sending nonsense adverts about VW like they have in the past

I was promised by their comms man that they would fix that.  Keeping their word since forever.

League memberships pass 100,000.

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/hyunda...

"Wellington Phoenix have been the biggest movers this week, rising a huge 10 percent to almost beat their mark from last season."

That's a big jump.

Saw this on facebook. Dont let the Aussies??? Some one needs to change this ASAP to FFA.

I was told that it's because most fans don't know who FFA are, don't see why they need that top line at all though.

So we just take it out on all convict?. LOL

it's only members in goalnet directly - members who have for example registered with their club via clubhub won't have their email address (or marketing yes/no flags) in goalnet and therefore are unable to be marketed to.

Bit strange considering half our team is Australian and we're in an Australian league just quietly

Don't understand the fuss over that. It's not aimed at people who come on the forums, we're already doing what we can. It's aimed at Joe Public who doesn't know what FFA is or why Frank Lowy is.

If you think this is bad, look at the #westvrest thing that Perth have based all of their marketing for this season on. Cringe worthy.

Some friends I've got from other supporter groups don't like it because they came out in support of the Nix last week and see this as a slap in the face for their support. Understand it's aimed at Joe Public that don't know who the FFA is and is playing off the Aussie v Kiwi rivalry but yeah, has pissed off our oversea supports.

Guess they need to do that to fire up the locals and naming the FFA would have been a direct shot at them which they haven't done yet.

They were not allowed to field ineligible players and that didn't stop them for many years. This is just a small thing so should be sweet

To us, yes.  Too Joe lunchpail.

Hurr Durr, yeah man fudge the aussies.

Nice to see a report on 3 news on this.

Sorry dont agree with the wording at all and think the tone of it is completely unnecessary. Dosnt matter what the Glory are doing they are not battling to save their club. Can we stop this defensive stance all the time somone dares to question something it really is getting a little out of hand. Do realise people are working their butts off to do things to save the Phoenix but this defensive stance taken all the time really is not necessary all the time. 

I'm disappointed I didn't get more camera time than Smithy!

http://www.3news.co.nz/sport/fans-must-show-united...

If people don't want to share the Nix one as they don't like the message, then please share the Yellowfever one. You can get it in a number of different formats here http://ge.tt/m/6SkpVrQ2

Im really worried that our croud numbers for the game against Adelaide aint gonna be all that flash...

As many have already pointed out, it wasnt coincidence that the FFA gave their press release 3 weeks before the next Nix home game.

I fear that our 'Oh pity the Phoenix' story is already starting to wear off and unless the Welnix and NZF doing something massive, then our boogie on the dance floor will soon be over and we will be quietly swept out the back door by two security guards (who bear a striking resemblance to Lowy and Gallup) without anyone really noticing.

$10 for adults $2 for kids will help draw the crouds in. It hurts the whole 10,000 for us to break even thing, but if it works and the public respond, and the team plays well it may help bolster croud numbers all round.

Don't agree at all with the anti Aussie message. Don't think the club has got it right, the FFA don't want an nz team in the comp and they are emphasising our position, isolating us.

Edit : meant to say FFA, not Fifa, b cellphone

We just need to keep it in the public. When they All Black win dies down a bit after the parade tomorrow, from Wellington City Council, Westpac and the Nix you'll see some promoti

FIFA is not against us in the HAL.  

But I also agree that pissing off our supporters in Oz is like shooting yourself in the foot. It is important how we voice the message - otherwise we end up like the infamous  "research" on Auckland home purchases by people with "Asian sounding surnames". 

And why do we assume all NZers living in Oz already support The Nix? They may be active supporters of their local HAL clubs and may be useful new recruits to our cause. It won't be done by drawing the line on nationality.

What about the whole Football United message? That was a successful one, dust it off again and give it another spin!

Football United to #SavetheNix

even better that it is being reported that some West Ham and Newcastle fans have been buying memberships...

That Gourdie piece is interesting.

Seems like the Nix putting pressure on NZF to come to the party.

That's a tricky sell, but also how much would NZF be set back without the 'Nix? Though as some have pointed out, our TV numbers aren't actually the worst...

Yeah the NZF may not be the bad guys, but it is interesting to see them jumping up and down with joy about getting semi-pro football televised while seemingly showing little concern towards the plight of the Nix in the televised market.

Don't get me wrong, NZF may be working hard behind the scenes to sort something out but it doesnt come across that way..

I get the wording because of the NZ vs Aus angle, and they can't specify FFA or specific people without pissing off the wrong people.

But some probably would have been better.

Based on the "the" I'd say that was a typo.