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Posted October 08, 2013 07:55 · last edited October 08, 2013 07:57

Doloras wrote:

Let me emphasise that a great stadium is a piece of garbage if it's in the wrong place. Exhibit A: NHS. The only place you could fit a new stadium in Wellington proper (i.e. not the Hutt or the Coast) would be Rugby League Park.

I agree with your statement but disagree with your example, I think NHS sucks as a stadium - it's too open and generates no atmosphere even when it's sold out. 


Interesting article on how to build atmosphere into stadia here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22110898 


Personally I think RoF has a great atmosphere when full, but the problem is that it's just too big for 95% of the games played there (ABs tests are the exception). I know there's no chance we'll get a smaller stadium because it just costs far too much. But having a chat about it as a hypothetical is fine. If people have a problem with that they can just not come on this thread.


To go back to something I've said a few times in the past - atmosphere is largely why people go to live sports  and the Nix undeniably  have a better level of crowd engagement and therefore atmosphere than any other professional sports team in the country (except maybe the Breakers but they play indoor so not comparable). Also, the more people at the game = the better the atmosphere. So why not lower prices, bring more people in, get a better atmosphere, and bring more people in again. If ticket prices were halved and attendance doubled then we'd have an almost half-full stadium every game for the same income (I know that's overly simplistic to say half price leads to twice the crowd but just for arguments sake). Bigger crowds means more merchandise sales, greater bargaining with sponsors, and so on.


Also, instead of building a new stadium can we at least start with improving the service at our existing stadium. Let's improve the concourse, get decent food and beer available, drop parking prices, and generally make the whole stadium experience less of a sh*tfest?

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ConanTroutman edited October 08, 2013 07:57
Doloras wrote:

Let me emphasise that a great stadium is a piece of garbage if it's in the wrong place. Exhibit A: NHS. The only place you could fit a new stadium in Wellington proper (i.e. not the Hutt or the Coast) would be Rugby League Park.

I agree with your statement but disagree with your example, I think NHS sucks as a stadium - it's too open and generates no atmosphere even when it's sold out. 

Interesting article on how to build atmosphere into stadia here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22110898 
Personally I think RoF has a great atmosphere when full, but the problem is that it's just too big for 95% of the games played there (ABs tests are the exception). I know there's no chance we'll get a smaller stadium because it just costs far too much. But having a chat about it as a hypothetical is fine. If people have a problem with that they can just not come on this thread.
To go back to something I've said a few times in the past - atmosphere is largely why people go to live sports  and the Nix undeniably  have a better level of crowd engagement and therefore atmosphere than any other professional sports team in the country (except maybe the Breakers but they play indoor so not comparable). Also, the more people at the game = the better the atmosphere. So why not lower prices, bring more people in, get a better atmosphere, and bring more people in again. If ticket prices were halved and attendance doubled then we'd have an almost half-full stadium every game for the same income (I know that's overly simplistic to say half price leads to twice the crowd but just for arguments sake). Bigger crowds means more merchandise sales, greater bargaining with sponsors, and so on.
Also, instead of building a new stadium can we at least start with improving the service at our existing stadium. Let's improve the concourse, get decent food and beer available, drop parking prices, and generally make the whole stadium experience less of a sh*tfest?