"Unruly comments letting Yellow Fever down"

I had to laugh at the comment directed at us about being gutless because we use pseudonyms. Get with the times, mate - every single forum on the internet has members that solely use pseudonyms. I'm sure anyone that criticizes you, your paper or the media at large will gladly disclose their real name. Not that it matters. Free speech and all that..

If you look at somewhere like gpforums - the largest forum in New Zealand - everyone posts under pseudonyms. A lot of content has been lifted straight off that site and gone onto the news, also.



Who's sl*gging him off? So we are not allowed to reply to criticism now?

Props to him for the praise, though. Credit where credit is due.

valeo2007-07-28 23:49:49

what i find absolutely hilarious is that we are being reffered to as "vocal " suppporters - hahahahaha you aint seen nothing yet my fellow wellingtonians, our efforts were good for a first try/get-to-gether but we like wine will improve with age. My hopes are we get a good solid 700 fans chanting and build up from day one and eventually fill both gates/ailes 21-22 with chanting die hard fans.

Wow. It would appear everyone has an opinion about opinions. Not much I can write that someone hasn't already, but I'll put my bit in, for the same reason everyone else did - the whole issue has a "take a side" feel to it.

Hello folks, it�s Jamie Douglas here.

There is no doubt YF are passionate about their football, especially given the response to my comment piece in Saturday�s Dominion Post. I am glad it is giving the sport � and website � exposure as shown on Newstalk ZB yesterday afternoon.

There have been some excellent points raised regarding the use of pseudonyms. I agree that the nature of football forum sites � and all sports, including rugby � are robust and at times critical. Of course I accept that, but I still hold firm in saying that using real names gives added credibility to the comment. I guess here we can agree to disagree.

For the record I am also passionate about football, and sincerely wish YF and Wellington Phoenix FC to be successful. I had hoped that would come through with what I said in my article before I listed my gripe.

In response to Michael J Greene, yes, rugby is my preferred sport of choice. That said, I have played football since I was at primary school, though that has lapsed in recent years given the expanding size of my gut and family commitments. I covered football extensively for The Evening Post in Wellington in the 1990s, when the likes of Ken Dugdale was at Wanganui, Barrie Truman at Petone, Costa Leonidas at Olympic and Jacques Vercauteren at Wellington United.

I�m also, for my sins, a Liverpool fan since 1977. I�m still trying to erase Manchester United�s treble last century from my memory but having great difficulty. They were a great side though.

I remain available for selection to the Phoenix and the All Whites should they ever be in the market for a fat and slow 39-year-old with very little football skills apart from a decent left foot.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to post a response on your forum.

Jamie, thanks for taking the time to wade through all of this and for coming back with a response, it would be easy to sit outside the debate.  I think we've all made variuos points here but one of the main ones is that the Dom Post is doing a ripper job of covering the Phoenix and long may it continue.

"In response to Michael J Greene, yes, rugby is my preferred sport of choice. That said, I have played football since I was at primary school, though that has lapsed in recent years given the expanding size of my gut"


Maybe get a pseudonym then big man!
Cheers for the reply though

Kiwi Jambo2007-07-29 10:21:24

wow - he singled me out - I feel honoured

Feverish2007-07-29 10:32:12

Originally posted by Jamie


"I remain available for selection to the Phoenix and the All Whites should they ever be in the market for a fat and slow 39-year-old with very little football skills apart from a decent left foot."

Theres always a place in the Island Bay masters for you mate ,( Masters Div 1 Champs this season)
Kiwi Jambo2007-07-29 10:34:10

I'll only resume playing so long as there is always a St John ambulance nearby with the ability to get the heart beating again.

Mate we have the works defibulaters ,Viagra , wheelchairs !!

Under all YF pseudomon names the brave have listed thier true identity, some have not, but I beleive all posts should be tracable for the long safe life of the site and in the best interests of Football. 

Dai, wee veitchie was as good as his word. "We don`t cover pre season matches". I always hold out hopes that tv1 will cover more football. But my advice to all football fans is forget tv1 for all your news/sport and watch tv3. Let them know as well.

Sorry, Sean Devine already has that spot taken.

Cheers Sanday.

Thanks for popping by Jamie.

It's a bit rich Douglas complaining about moderating the boards - post a comment on one of Stuff's blogs and you'll see that is posted straight away without any moderation.

Check the third comment here for example: http://www.stuff.co.nz/blogs/shouldhaveworn/2007/07/27/hes-the-bosch/wp-comments-post.php

Moderation is a very touchy subject - at least it was in the UK. I used to work for BBC Sport website in a previous life and we had to pre-moderate the 606 messageboards and even the cricket messageboards because of potentially defamatory material.
Lively banter is fine, but when it starts getting nasty I'm sure us YF members can post-moderate ourselves.
HeySeus2007-07-29 13:34:02

On that, remember you can report a comment at any time by hitting the "report" button.  We'll then take a look at it and delete if necessary

we're a good buncha geezers anyhow (although apparently 5% of the population are psychopaths...so there might be a few around, lurking)

insert shifty-eyes

Righty ho, its after 2, shouldn't you all be at a footie match.

You'll want Masters 4 then.

Jamie, were you at the Stadium this morning with a junior Douglas ?

Yes I was - excellent turnout. Shows the depth of support for Phoenix in Wellington.

You were walking up from the car park just in front of me.  Thought it was you.

It was an excellent turnout.

It made up weather wise for the freezing conditions at the Hutt Rec in the 6-1 win a while back and the cold of last Sunday against Sydney. All good stuff though.

While we have you on the line Jamie, I just noticed that the Stuff website has now substituted "soccer" for "football". Well played. Bonus points for Fairfax. The Herald yet to catch up.