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Posted January 04, 2016 05:20 · last edited January 04, 2016 05:21

Jeff Vader wrote:

Bullion wrote:

I wonder how Manny can be cited in the first place because surely the referee saw the tangle and at the time did not think anything from it warranted a card - it's only the headbutt that was missed.

but then in the case of O'Donovans head butt, how is that being cited when it was seen by one official and sanctioned? I thought it was only if the incident was missed.

We make a lot of assumptions in a vacuum of facts about what was seen and not seen. You can't tell me that any person that saw the head butt would ever say 'well that's a yellow' so how can it be that if the Lino saw it, he is saying yellow?

I still think both will spend time on the sideline with Manny less than O'Donovan. It's a dirty cheap shot and really cannot believe people are trying to defend this or make it to be nothing when it happened after the whistle and there is a photo of the damage done to O'Donocan prior to head butt. 

Ordinarily yes, only if missed / not dealt with. In this case it was cited as an "obvious referee error", presumably because O'Donovan should have been given straight red regardless of provocation, and Manny a second yellow (or nothing, depending on one's point of view regarding the elbow, as discussion here shows).

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Mainland FC edited January 04, 2016 05:21
Jeff Vader wrote:
Bullion wrote:

I wonder how Manny can be cited in the first place because surely the referee saw the tangle and at the time did not think anything from it warranted a card - it's only the headbutt that was missed.

but then in the case of O'Donovans head butt, how is that being cited when it was seen by one official and sanctioned? I thought it was only if the incident was missed.

We make a lot of assumptions in a vacuum of facts about what was seen and not seen. You can't tell me that any person that saw the head butt would ever say 'well that's a yellow' so how can it be that if the Lino saw it, he is saying yellow?

I still think both will spend time on the sideline with Manny less than O'Donovan. It's a dirty cheap shot and really cannot believe people are trying to defend this or make it to be nothing when it happened after the whistle and there is a photo of the damage done to O'Donocan prior to head butt. 

Ordinarily yes, only if missed / not dealt with. In this case it was cited as an "obvious referee error", presumably because either O'Donovan should have been given straight red, and Manny a second yellow (or nothing, depending on one's point of view, as discussion here shows).

Mainland FC edited January 04, 2016 05:20
Jeff Vader wrote:
Bullion wrote:

I wonder how Manny can be cited in the first place because surely the referee saw the tangle and at the time did not think anything from it warranted a card - it's only the headbutt that was missed.

but then in the case of O'Donovans head butt, how is that being cited when it was seen by one official and sanctioned? I thought it was only if the incident was missed.

We make a lot of assumptions in a vacuum of facts about what was seen and not seen. You can't tell me that any person that saw the head butt would ever say 'well that's a yellow' so how can it be that if the Lino saw it, he is saying yellow?

I still think both will spend time on the sideline with Manny less than O'Donovan. It's a dirty cheap shot and really cannot believe people are trying to defend this or make it to be nothing when it happened after the whistle and there is a photo of the damage done to O'Donocan prior to head butt. 

Ordinarily yes, only if missed. In this case it was cited as "an obvious referee error", presumably because either O'Donovan should have been given straight red, and Manny a second yellow (or nothing, depending on one's point of view, as discussion here shows).