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R7 vs Perth Glory | Friday 21st Nov | 11:45pm | SS2

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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

I think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe. 

Lowe has said that they don't analyse other teams, or do any specific preparation for them.

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Ryan wrote:

I think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe. 

Lowe has said that they don't analyse other teams, or do any specific preparation for them.

Siggy, Caira...theyre basically the same

a.haak

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over 11 years ago

Ryan wrote:

I think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe. 

Lowe has said that they don't analyse other teams, or do any specific preparation for them.

You surely don't believe that?

I'm also interested why you think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

I think that is harsh on both Lia and A-Rod. They have done assigned jobs and I think done them well. Brockies' assigned job is to score goals. How is that working out......

Scoring goals isn't Brockie's only job though. Playing in the middle ofthe front 3 he's there to help build attacks, to draw defenders out of position, to hold up the ball while others make runs. I think he did all that well in the first few games. Also, it's about the balance of the side - it allows Roly to play deeper, where he looked more comfortable, and gets Burns and WeeMac able to link up with the rest of the team or drift wider if required, which then takes pressure off our fullbacks as well. I just think we looked like abetter team when we played that way.

Ok I am over simplifying it. He does bring more to the table and when he came on as a sub, it changed things up for us. We still need him to be mindful of what his *main* job is though

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

I think that is harsh on both Lia and A-Rod. They have done assigned jobs and I think done them well. Brockies' assigned job is to score goals. How is that working out......

Scoring goals isn't Brockie's only job though. Playing in the middle ofthe front 3 he's there to help build attacks, to draw defenders out of position, to hold up the ball while others make runs. I think he did all that well in the first few games. Also, it's about the balance of the side - it allows Roly to play deeper, where he looked more comfortable, and gets Burns and WeeMac able to link up with the rest of the team or drift wider if required, which then takes pressure off our fullbacks as well. I just think we looked like abetter team when we played that way.

Ok I am over simplifying it. He does bring more to the table and when he came on as a sub, it changed things up for us. We still need him to be mindful of what his *main* job is though

If playing him up front instead of say, Lia, in midfield means the team as a whole plays better though isn't it a bit silly to not play him because he's not scoring goals? If our defence stays solid (and I think it would - after all it was defensive errors rather than tactical flaws which cost us in the first few games) and playing Brockie makes Burns and WeeMac more effective then we should do it.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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Leggy wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe. 

Lowe has said that they don't analyse other teams, or do any specific preparation for them.

You surely don't believe that?

I'm also interested why you think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe.

Well he shows how much he knows of the Nix by saying that Reece Caira, who obviously only played a bit part in our defence last season, and has been released, is in a central pairing with Dura.

Why would he say something as moronic as the above, knowing that people already think of him as being to unqualified and inexperienced for the job?

He could be extremely cunning, who knows, but the consensus seems to be that Perth have a very basic game plan, which at A-League level is doing well for them.

Ernie has shown that he is happy to tinker and sets teams up for the opposition which is why I think we have a good opportunity.

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over 11 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe. 

Lowe has said that they don't analyse other teams, or do any specific preparation for them.

You surely don't believe that?

I'm also interested why you think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe.

Well he shows how much he knows of the Nix by saying that Reece Caira, who obviously only played a bit part in our defence last season, and has been released, is in a central pairing with Dura.

Why would he say something as moronic as the above, knowing that people already think of him as being to unqualified and inexperienced for the job?

He could be extremely cunning, who knows, but the consensus seems to be that Perth have a very basic game plan, which at A-League level is doing well for them.

Ernie has shown that he is happy to tinker and sets teams up for the opposition which is why I think we have a good opportunity.

Well I guess you can think what ever you want to.

Lowe has far better playing experience than Ernie, which does not always count, but I know the area of the UK he is from and they are pretty canny. Also Ernie's win % for us is 31, not that great, but Lows is 46%.

I guess we will find out on the weekend. However it will also come down to which team has the better players.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 11 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Ryan wrote:

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He could be extremely cunning, who knows, but the consensus seems to be that Perth have a very basic game plan, which at A-League level is doing well for them.

Ernie has shown that he is happy to tinker and sets teams up for the opposition which is why I think we have a good opportunity.

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Lowe has far better playing experience than Ernie, which does not always count, but I know the area of the UK he is from and they are pretty canny. Also Ernie's win % for us is 31, not that great, but Lowe's is 46%.

I guess we will find out on the weekend. However it will also come down to which team has the better players.

Best qualification for a coaching job I've never seen on a resume.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 11 years ago

Ryan wrote:

I think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe. 

Lowe has said that they don't analyse other teams, or do any specific preparation for them.

They got to the top of the table somehow ...

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over 11 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Ryan wrote:

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He could be extremely cunning, who knows, but the consensus seems to be that Perth have a very basic game plan, which at A-League level is doing well for them.

Ernie has shown that he is happy to tinker and sets teams up for the opposition which is why I think we have a good opportunity.

(...)

Lowe has far better playing experience than Ernie, which does not always count, but I know the area of the UK he is from and they are pretty canny. Also Ernie's win % for us is 31, not that great, but Lowe's is 46%.

I guess we will find out on the weekend. However it will also come down to which team has the better players.

Best qualification for a coaching job I've never seen on a resume.

'Ernie Merrick was born in Edinburgh to a circus family' - Wiki. QUALIFICATION!

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 11 years ago

Bevan wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe. 

Lowe has said that they don't analyse other teams, or do any specific preparation for them.

They got to the top of the table somehow ...

Nothing wrong with doing the basics well combined with an easy run.
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over 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

I think that is harsh on both Lia and A-Rod. They have done assigned jobs and I think done them well. Brockies' assigned job is to score goals. How is that working out......

Scoring goals isn't Brockie's only job though. Playing in the middle ofthe front 3 he's there to help build attacks, to draw defenders out of position, to hold up the ball while others make runs. I think he did all that well in the first few games. Also, it's about the balance of the side - it allows Roly to play deeper, where he looked more comfortable, and gets Burns and WeeMac able to link up with the rest of the team or drift wider if required, which then takes pressure off our fullbacks as well. I just think we looked like abetter team when we played that way.

Ok I am over simplifying it. He does bring more to the table and when he came on as a sub, it changed things up for us. We still need him to be mindful of what his *main* job is though

If playing him up front instead of say, Lia, in midfield means the team as a whole plays better though isn't it a bit silly to not play him because he's not scoring goals? If our defence stays solid (and I think it would - after all it was defensive errors rather than tactical flaws which cost us in the first few games) and playing Brockie makes Burns and WeeMac more effective then we should do it.

fair play

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Mainland FC wrote:

Leggy wrote:

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Lowe has far better playing experience than Ernie, which does not always count, but I know the area of the UK he is from and they are pretty canny. Also Ernie's win % for us is 31, not that great, but Lowe's is 46%.

Best qualification for a coaching job I've never seen on a resume.

'Ernie Merrick was born in Edinburgh to a circus family' - Wiki. QUALIFICATION!

Come to think of it, that is the best qualification to coach a football club. Dealing with dangerous man-eating beasts, jumping through flaming hoops, managing the clowns, sweeping out the dung - all of that is just part of the job.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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Bevan wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe. 

Lowe has said that they don't analyse other teams, or do any specific preparation for them.

They got to the top of the table somehow ...

By beating us, Brisbane (in the last minute), CCM, Newcastle and WSW - they have had a relatively easy run. (all at home except v us and CCM, who are piss poor)

They will drop down the table when they start losing to Victory, Sydney ; already lost to Adelaide.

Think we're on about the same level as them, should be a good game.

a.haak

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over 11 years ago

Agree Valeo although Perth is not a happy hunting ground for us. Played 11, won 3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_Phoenix_FC_records_and_statistics

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 11 years ago

Yeah, Away to Perth, Away to Adelaide and Away to Victory are the games most likely to turn to crap.

a.haak

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over 11 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Mainland FC wrote:

Leggy wrote:

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Lowe has far better playing experience than Ernie, which does not always count, but I know the area of the UK he is from and they are pretty canny. Also Ernie's win % for us is 31, not that great, but Lowe's is 46%.

Best qualification for a coaching job I've never seen on a resume.

'Ernie Merrick was born in Edinburgh to a circus family' - Wiki. QUALIFICATION!

Come to think of it, that is the best qualification to coach a football club. Dealing with dangerous man-eating beasts, jumping through flaming hoops, managing the clowns, sweeping out the dung - all of that is just part of the job.

And let's not forget: "walking a tightrope every weekend"

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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valeo wrote:

Yeah, Away to Perth, Away to Adelaide and Away to Victory are the games most likely to turn to crap.

I hope the AWs flying down from Thailand will be sufficiently motivated to make a difference in Perth.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 11 years ago

valeo wrote:

Yeah, Away to Perth, Away to Adelaide and Away to Victory are the games most likely to turn to crap.

+ roar. Never won there.

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over 11 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

valeo wrote:

Yeah, Away to Perth, Away to Adelaide and Away to Victory are the games most likely to turn to crap.

I hope the AWs flying down from Thailand will be sufficiently motivated to make a difference in Perth.

Isn't WeeMac the only one likely to start?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 11 years ago

I did not think JBS was that bad last week. Considering its a long time between drinks, I thought he made a decent fist of it. 

I guess McGlinchey and you argue around Brockie/Krishna etc. I think that we may see the return of Brockie for Lia since we are not getting as high up that flank. Its more a reflection of tactics than what Lia has done because he has performed since he has been back. He does play that role (like he did last year in a widish right) with some solidity.

I think if I were Kenny, I'd pack my bags now. For a Costa Rican international, Krishna looks more effective than him.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 11 years ago

Whens Doyle back from injury?

Fenton is still a few weeks away as well?

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over 11 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Whens Doyle back from injury?

Fenton is still a few weeks away as well?

Doyle is much closer to a return (maybe another week if not this week?) than Fenton (several weeks at least).

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 11 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

valeo wrote:

Yeah, Away to Perth, Away to Adelaide and Away to Victory are the games most likely to turn to crap.

+ roar. Never won there.

Im pretty sure we have terrable records away to everyone, 

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over 11 years ago

detoxin wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

valeo wrote:

Yeah, Away to Perth, Away to Adelaide and Away to Victory are the games most likely to turn to crap.

+ roar. Never won there.

Im pretty sure we have terrable records away to everyone, 

Wikipedia has a table. Newcastle and Central Coast are the only places we have won 4 or more times.

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over 11 years ago

Bevan wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I think Ernie should be able to outfox Lowe. 

Lowe has said that they don't analyse other teams, or do any specific preparation for them.

They got to the top of the table somehow ...

Have a look at all Perth's fixtures, they've all been really easy except when they beat us 2 1 and when they lost 2 nil to Adelaide, They're an ok side, but not near top 3.


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over 11 years ago

Ryan54 wrote:

detoxin wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

valeo wrote:

Yeah, Away to Perth, Away to Adelaide and Away to Victory are the games most likely to turn to crap.

+ roar. Never won there.

Im pretty sure we have terrable records away to everyone, 

Wikipedia has a table. Newcastle and Central Coast are the only places we have won 4 or more times.

Thats because its easier to score in Newcastle and Gosford!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 11 years ago

I'd agree and say Perth haven't really outclassed anyone.

I can see them finishing 4th.

However our games with them are traditionally scrappy, and with our current form/tactics, a draw would be pretty good.


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over 11 years ago

Personally I can see us stealing all 3 points this week from Perth.

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 11 years ago
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over 11 years ago

So you'd guess that means one of Lia or Rodriguez misses out to accomodate Gorrin, and no McGlinchey?

Normo's coming home

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over 11 years ago

Rumour WeeMac is heading home for birth of his child.

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over 11 years ago

james dean wrote:

So you'd guess that means one of Lia or Rodriguez misses out to accomodate Gorrin, and no McGlinchey?

Two Alex Rodriguez. Only two Alex Rodriguez.

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over 11 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

james dean wrote:

So you'd guess that means one of Lia or Rodriguez misses out to accomodate Gorrin, and no McGlinchey?

Two Alex Rodriguez. Only two Alex Rodriguez.


Well spotted, I think I meant Bonavacia...

Normo's coming home

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over 11 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Rumour WeeMac is heading home for birth of his child.

Less dedication than SBW

Founder

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over 11 years ago

Feverish wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Rumour WeeMac is heading home for birth of his child.

Less dedication than SBW

I'm sure we could convince SBW to make the switch national Marquee wages and a world cup chance coming LOL

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over 11 years ago

cat=====================>>>> pigeons!

still think this formation sound like one where we will finish higher up the table. Seems like we were chasing a clean sheet and we got one, but missed two.

I have to be honest in that I'm not sure Ernie has got the best out of this group of midfielders and attackers yet. 



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over 11 years ago

I think Rod is going to miss out as Ernie referred to Riera and Lia as his defensive mids.

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over 11 years ago

martinb wrote:

cat=====================>>>> pigeons!

still think this formation sound like one where we will finish higher up the table. Seems like we were chasing a clean sheet and we got one, but missed two.

I have to be honest in that I'm not sure Ernie has got the best out of this group of midfielders and attackers yet. 

To quote Basil Fawlty, "and now, from the Department of Stating the Bleeding Obvious, ..."

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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