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Posted November 23, 2013 22:37 · last edited November 23, 2013 22:47

Remember when Gareth Morgan called us out as unsophisticated for only wanting to win all the time. I hope he's reading this thread now.

We show heaps of promise, and just lack a goalscoring edge. I'd be inclined to bin Stein and start Iffs, or Kenny. Louis as a right back continues to worry me too.

I agree with the spirit of the "heaps of promise" bit. I still consider Ernie a good choice for a coach, and hope he'll stay around long enough to make us into a better team on the park (long term). I am thinking of "long-term" in a Brisbane Roar way, who were shaped by Ange P. into a good team, once he got rid of deadweight, and still remain so a couple of seasons later.

However, I disagree with the notion of starting Ifill. In contrast, Kenny C. reminded me of a younger Ifill, if not in the sense of Iffy's beguiling, wavy runs, but in the same work rate that Ifill showed even a couple off seasons ago.

There must be a reason that Ernie is persisting with Stein and Brockie pairing, although I do not know what it is. Ernie is paid good money to know the reason, while I am a smartass spouting wisdom from the sidelines for free, and angsting over the outcome. I will defer to Ernie's professional wisdom.

Some stated that Carlos Hernandez played well this time. I am not sure he played exceptionally well, he rides too much on his past reputation at the moment. While he's never been very mobile, he used to take at least a few shots (on target) in previous years. The fact people were angsting over Lia miscuing his shots and not saying anything about Carlos (who is supposed to be twice the calibre footballer that Lia is), is only because Carlos did not take more than one shot or so the whole game, yet I have not heard a complaint.

My main concern remains relatively low work rate of Brockie and Hernandez, and the "Lost In Space" whiff to Stein's game at present. Of these, the latter is more worrying as it may reflect a good player not fitting into the game plan, rather than a lazy player. A lazy player can have a riot act read to them, a lost player can be reassigned by a good coach.

I will go out on a limb again, and ask (again) the collective wisdom of the forum if Waffles can be reshaped into a central attacking midfielder.

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Mainland FC edited November 23, 2013 22:47

Smithy wrote:

Remember when Gareth Morgan called us out as unsophisticated for only wanting to win all the time. I hope he's reading this thread now.

We show heaps of promise, and just lack a goalscoring edge. I'd be inclined to bin Stein and start Iffs, or Kenny. Louis as a right back continues to worry me too.

I agree with the spirit of the "heaps of promise" bit. I still consider Ernie a good choice for a coach, and hope he'll stay around long enough to make us into a better team on the park (long term). I am thinking of "long-term" in a Brisbane Roar way, who were shaped by Ange P. into a good team, once he got rid of deadweight, and still remain so a couple of seasons later.

However, I disagree with the notion of starting Ifill. In contrast, Kenny C. reminded me of a younger Ifill, if not in the sense of Iffy's beguiling, wavy runs, but in the same work rate that Ifill showed even a couple off seasons ago.

There must be a reason that Ernie is persisting with Stein and Brockie pairing, although I do not know what it is. Ernie is paid good money to know the reason, while I am a smartass spouting wisdom from the sidelines and angsting over the outcome, so I will defer to Ernie's wisdom.

Some stated that Carlos Hernandez played well this time. I am not sure he played exceptionally well, he rides too much on his past reputation at the moment. While he's never been very mobile, he used to take at least a few shots (on target) in previous years. The fact people were angsting over Lia miscuing his shots and not saying anything about Carlos (who is supposed to be twice the calibre footballer that Lia is), is only because Carlos did not take more than one shot or so the whole game, yet I have not heard a complaint.

My main concern remains relatively low work rate of Brockie and Hernandez, and the "Lost In Space" whiff to Stein's game at present. Of these, the latter is more worrying as it may reflect a good player not fitting into the game plan, rather than a lazy player. A lazy player can have a riot act read to them, a lost player can be reassigned by a good coach.

I will go out on a limb again, and ask (again) the collective wisdom of the forum if Waffles can be reshaped into a central attacking midfielder.

Mainland FC edited November 23, 2013 22:44

Smithy wrote:

Remember when Gareth Morgan called us out as unsophisticated for only wanting to win all the time. I hope he's reading this thread now.

We show heaps of promise, and just lack a goalscoring edge. I'd be inclined to bin Stein and start Iffs, or Kenny. Louis as a right back continues to worry me too.

I agree with the spirit of the "heaps of promise" bit. I still consider Ernie a good choice for a coach, and hope he'll stay around long enough to make us into a better team on the park (long term). I am thinking of "long-term" in a Brisbane Roar way, who were shaped by Ange P. into a good team, once he got rid of deadweight, and still remain so a couple of seasons later.

However, I disagree with the notion of starting Ifill. In contrast, Kenny C. reminded me of a younger Ifill, if not in the sense of Iffy's beguiling, wavy runs, but in the same work rate that Ifill showed even a couple off seasons ago.

There must be a reason that Ernie is persisting with Stein and Brockie pairing, although I do not know what it is. Ernie is paid good money to know the reason, while I am a smartass watching the game and angsting over the outcome, so I will defer to Ernie's wisdom.

Some stated that Carlos Hernandez played well this time. I am not sure he played exceptionally well, he rides too much on his past reputation at the moment. While he's never been very mobile, he used to take at least a few shots (on target) in previous years. The fact people were angsting over Lia miscuing his shots and not saying anything about Carlos (who is supposed to be twice the calibre footballer that Lia is), is only because Carlos did not take more than one shot or so the whole game, yet I have not heard a complaint.

My main concern remains relatively low work rate of Brockie and Hernandez, and the "Lost In Space" whiff to Stein's game at present. Of these, the latter is more worrying as it may reflect a good player not fitting into the game plan, rather than a lazy player. A lazy player can have a riot act read to them, a lost player can be reassigned by a good coach.

I will go out on a limb again, and ask (again) the collective wisdom of the forum if Waffles can be reshaped into a central attacking midfielder.

Mainland FC edited November 23, 2013 22:38

Smithy wrote:

Remember when Gareth Morgan called us out as unsophisticated for only wanting to win all the time. I hope he's reading this thread now.

We show heaps of promise, and just lack a goalscoring edge. I'd be inclined to bin Stein and start Iffs, or Kenny. Louis as a right back continues to worry me too.

I agree with the spirit of the "heaps of promise" bit. I still consider Ernie a good choice for a coach, and hope he'll stay around long enough to make us into a better team on the park (long term). I am thinking of "long-term" in a Brisbane Roar way, who were shaped by Ange P. into a good team, once he got rid of deadweight, and remained so a couple of seasons later.

However, I disagree with the notion of starting Ifill. In contrast, Kenny C. reminded me of a younger Ifill, if not in the sense of Iffy's beguiling, wavy runs, but in the same work rate that Ifill showed even a couple off seasons ago.

There must be a reason that Ernie is persisting with Stein and Brockie pairing, although I do not know what it is. Ernie is paid good money to know the reason, while I am a smartass watching the game and angsting over the outcome, so I will defer to Ernie's wisdom.

Some stated that Carlos Hernandez played well this time. I am not sure he played exceptionally well, he rides too much on his past reputation at the moment. While he's never been very mobile, he used to take at least a few shots (on target) in previous years. The fact people were angsting over Lia miscuing his shots and not saying anything about Carlos (who is supposed to be twice the calibre footballer that Lia is), is only because Carlos did not take more than one shot or so the whole game, yet I have not heard a complaint.

My main concern remains relatively low work rate of Brockie and Hernandez, and the "Lost In Space" whiff to Stein's game at present. Of these, the latter is more worrying as it may reflect a good player not fitting into the game plan, rather than a lazy player. A lazy player can have a riot act read to them, a lost player can be reassigned by a good coach.

I will go out on a limb again, and ask (again) the collective wisdom of the forum if Waffles can be reshaped into a central attacking midfielder.