I forgot to ask, for those who watched on TV, what was the reason we had that goal early on disallowed (the quick free kick).
Thought the ref was sharke and then realised how much more sharke the 4th official was when he came on...
I knew it would be disallowed the moment we took it, and I'd be livid if we were to concede a goal like that.
I think the key to Auckland is the day and timing of the game. It is much more important then Wellington due to travel/other priorities.
I seem to recall the 20k at Eden park was a Satuday at 3pm? That in my view is prime time 20k potential.
Sunday is a right off, we are all stressing about our high power jobs the following day (it's the private sector driving Auckland you see, not the public and we need to go to work)
Friday is to difficult due to us working hard all week and then having to negotiate the traffic.
Saturday is the day, after we drive our big vans round Auckland dropping the kids off at soccer (yes they call it that at kids games)
7pm is far too late, fudge if 20k turned up at Albany, getting out of there at that time would mean we wouldn't get home till 11pm
It's all about timing, If we had the perfect time and the perfect day I am sure the crowds would rock. If only we were two hours behind of Ausi rather then ahead.
So next time David, give us your best time/date and you will reap the rewards.
And of course the aucklanders don't want miss out on Coro St and their warm cocoa* before bedtime.
*or Horlicks for the ones from East Coast Bays
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Genuine opinion: FTFFA
I think the key to Auckland is the day and timing of the game. It is much more important then Wellington due to travel/other priorities.
I seem to recall the 20k at Eden park was a Satuday at 3pm? That in my view is prime time 20k potential.
Sunday is a right off, we are all stressing about our high power jobs the following day (it's the private sector driving Auckland you see, not the public and we need to go to work)
Friday is to difficult due to us working hard all week and then having to negotiate the traffic.
Saturday is the day, after we drive our big vans round Auckland dropping the kids off at soccer (yes they call it that at kids games)
7pm is far too late, fudge if 20k turned up at Albany, getting out of there at that time would mean we wouldn't get home till 11pm
It's all about timing, If we had the perfect time and the perfect day I am sure the crowds would rock. If only we were two hours behind of Ausi rather then ahead.
So next time David, give us your best time/date and you will reap the rewards.
And of course the aucklanders don't want miss out on Coro St and their warm cocoa* before bedtime.
*or Horlicks for the ones from East Coast Bays
Was there really only two beer stalls for 11k people?
Fuck this stupid game
Was there really only two beer stalls for 11k people?
And an even longer queue for the toilets!
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
http://www.throng.co.nz/2015/12/tv-ratings-5-december-2015/
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Most watched on SKY Sport 2
Most watched on SKY Sport 3
The game was on SS4 - so no ratings listed for that channel.
I think the key to Auckland is the day and timing of the game. It is much more important then Wellington due to travel/other priorities.
I seem to recall the 20k at Eden park was a Satuday at 3pm? That in my view is prime time 20k potential.
Sunday is a right off, we are all stressing about our high power jobs the following day (it's the private sector driving Auckland you see, not the public and we need to go to work)
Friday is to difficult due to us working hard all week and then having to negotiate the traffic.
Saturday is the day, after we drive our big vans round Auckland dropping the kids off at soccer (yes they call it that at kids games)
7pm is far too late, fudge if 20k turned up at Albany, getting out of there at that time would mean we wouldn't get home till 11pm
It's all about timing, If we had the perfect time and the perfect day I am sure the crowds would rock. If only we were two hours behind of Ausi rather then ahead.
So next time David, give us your best time/date and you will reap the rewards.
And of course the aucklanders don't want miss out on Coro St and their warm cocoa* before bedtime.
*or Horlicks for the ones from East Coast Bays
Would pay $30 if Roly was singing .
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
Was there really only two beer stalls for 11k people?
And an even longer queue for the toilets!
BTW, our bus driver got lost on the way back to town! We ended up in Newmarket and had to take the slow way back.
Sounds like you were on my bus - there were a couple of girls on deck having a ball singing Christmas carols opera-style in the seat behind me! :-)
That driver didn't have the first clue. He should have joined the bus lane at Constellation to begin with, but he was all at sea after missing the Fanshawe and Cook Streets turn-offs. I had to guide him after he went down Gillies Ave - he literally didn't know where he was.
David Gallop was driving your bus? Or was it De Bohun?
http://www.throng.co.nz/2015/12/tv-ratings-5-december-2015/
Most watched on SKY Sport 1
Most watched on SKY Sport 2
Most watched on SKY Sport 3
The game was on SS4 - so no ratings listed for that channel.
I've seen ratings for programmes on SS4 in the past - but of course only if it's a decent number and worth noting. Guess not in our case.
http://www.throng.co.nz/2015/12/tv-ratings-5-december-2015/
Most watched on SKY Sport 1
Most watched on SKY Sport 2
Most watched on SKY Sport 3
The game was on SS4 - so no ratings listed for that channel.
I've seen ratings for programmes on SS4 in the past - but of course only if it's a decent number and worth noting. Guess not in our case.
Would have thought those that would normally be at the game would be watching on TV, apart from the many that headed up to AKL - at least 10k.
Speaking of beer stalls, I hope someone remembers me saying 'they always score if I leave the stand during the game' right before we went 2-0 up as I was in the beer queue.
As for the many arguments in here:
Auckland crowds:
For Auckland games, those with an investment in the Nix will travel from anywhere, but casuals will only go to stadiums handy to them, so regardless of which stadium in Auckland you choose, think of that as the catchment area as opposed to 1.4 million.
They say first impressions last, so NHS could really do with promoting how much easier the journey is now, what took me an hour on Saturday would have taken three when the stadium first opened, it was terrible.
Many of you who made the effort to come all the way from Wellington rightfully pointed out the effort you made to attend, and you deserve praise for loyally supporting your side. Auckland based fans who share your enthusiasm levels did make the journey from all over town, but to boost numbers, it is the casual fans you need to capture and convince.
I think you could pick any stadium in Auckland during December and have next to no chance of beating 12k as that's prime time for casuals to have a million other things on.
After match:
I can't remember who suggested Spy Bar for an after match function but hang your head in shame: Their bouncers are the biggest shark cods in the city and if you do get in, you will find yourself surrounded by the worst Auckland stereotypes. aka 'I do nothing of use but I'm on the A-List and therefore better than you' It's tiny, and most of the Fever would hate the music (give me a chance to yell to old Blink 182 over house music any day). Never go there, ever.
Britomart Country Club is a good choice, get there early (an hour, hour and half after the match is early for a Saturday night) and enjoy banter in the garden bar and then get into 1885 without standing in line for half an hour.
Other things that have been mentioned:
'but we lost the momentum from the Adelaide game': You do realise the fixtures were announced before the season right? Before we got the unfortunate news about our license situation and before 'metrics' became more important than ever, right? You can understand that basic concept?
You can also understand as Patrick said, that a lot of other stake holders put in for matches played out of Wellington, which means it would be near on impossible to back out of an out of town fixture and give it back after the draw is made, you get that, right?
End on a good note:
I'm just stirring a few forum angsters, it was bloody good to see those of you I already knew, meet a few I knew in online forum but not in IRL and meet some I did not know at all. The pre-match venue was tops, but a little expensive, even by Auckland standards.
The Victory guys traveled in amazing numbers, were good value and gracious in defeat. The banter with them before, during, and after is what football support should be about.
Neither. It was a Howick & Eastern driver, and the only roads they use in the city are Symonds Street, Anzac Ave and those around the confines of Britomart.
He was in uncharted waters crossing the Harbour Bridge, and when we got to Gillies Ave ... no idea.
S'pose there is a likeness to Gallop with regard to the last two words of my last sentence, eh? :-)
the 20K was a 5pm game. But there was also a 18K game that was at 7:30pm.
3pm and it will be 25k then
Fox would never allow it. Suspect we'd probably not get a 5pm Saturday game either.
Speaking of beer stalls, I hope someone remembers me saying 'they always score if I leave the stand during the game' right before we went 2-0 up as I was in the beer queue.
As for the many arguments in here:
Auckland crowds:
For Auckland games, those with an investment in the Nix will travel from anywhere, but casuals will only go to stadiums handy to them, so regardless of which stadium in Auckland you choose, think of that as the catchment area as opposed to 1.4 million.
They say first impressions last, so NHS could really do with promoting how much easier the journey is now, what took me an hour on Saturday would have taken three when the stadium first opened, it was terrible.
Many of you who made the effort to come all the way from Wellington rightfully pointed out the effort you made to attend, and you deserve praise for loyally supporting your side. Auckland based fans who share your enthusiasm levels did make the journey from all over town, but to boost numbers, it is the casual fans you need to capture and convince.
I think you could pick any stadium in Auckland during December and have next to no chance of beating 12k as that's prime time for casuals to have a million other things on.
After match:
I can't remember who suggested Spy Bar for an after match function but hang your head in shame: Their bouncers are the biggest shark cods in the city and if you do get in, you will find yourself surrounded by the worst Auckland stereotypes. aka 'I do nothing of use but I'm on the A-List and therefore better than you' It's tiny, and most of the Fever would hate the music (give me a chance to yell to old Blink 182 over house music any day). Never go there, ever.
Britomart Country Club is a good choice, get there early (an hour, hour and half after the match is early for a Saturday night) and enjoy banter in the garden bar and then get into 1885 without standing in line for half an hour.
Other things that have been mentioned:
'but we lost the momentum from the Adelaide game': You do realise the fixtures were announced before the season right? Before we got the unfortunate news about our license situation and before 'metrics' became more important than ever, right? You can understand that basic concept?
You can also understand as Patrick said, that a lot of other stake holders put in for matches played out of Wellington, which means it would be near on impossible to back out of an out of town fixture and give it back after the draw is made, you get that, right?
End on a good note:
I'm just stirring a few forum angsters, it was bloody good to see those of you I already knew, meet a few I knew in online forum but not in IRL and meet some I did not know at all. The pre-match venue was tops, but a little expensive, even by Auckland standards.
The Victory guys traveled in amazing numbers, were good value and gracious in defeat. The banter with them before, during, and after is what football support should be about.
Nowhere did I suggest they should have shifted this game to Wellington. What I was bitching about was the fact that it's disappointing to not have another game in Wellington for over a month after our biggest crowd in years. You can be disappointed in things you don't have control over - you get that basic concept, right?
For me it shows the problem with these home-away games -that it makes it harder to generate new fans where they matter most, which is Wellington. I've already acknowledged what Patrick said and explained what I think about it too.
I wouldn't have been disappointed about this game being in Auckland if we'd got a bumper crowd, but as it is I don't think 10,000ish is enoughfor something that's meant to be generating interest in our biggest city. Especially when a few years ago we got double that.
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People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Conan, those are all fair points and yes you can be disappointed in things you have no control over, I totally get that. Trouble is it most often does not get you very far.
I guess since you understand that, my condescending tone was not aimed at you, but a few who seemed to think the game could and should have been shifted.
The whole no game in Wellington for a month does seem absurd, but that's something the club could look at for next year. Possibly a home/away game could have been scheduled for a period as we have towards the end of the season where there is a tight grouping of home games. Can some numbers guru give me an average of home crowds in Wellington during December? Is the club trying to move a game out of Wellington during a period where they know the festive period may hurt their gate?
As for you last point about the numbers, fair enough, I see your logic. All I can say is I go back to my point about thinking of Auckland as 4-5 different catchment areas as opposed to one, despite numbers being near half the lowest crowd in the general Auckland area, there still would have been a lot going for the first or second time.
BTW, our bus driver got lost on the way back to town! We ended up in Newmarket and had to take the slow way back.
Sounds like you were on my bus - there were a couple of girls on deck having a ball singing Christmas carols opera-style in the seat behind me! :-)
That driver didn't have the first clue. He should have joined the bus lane at Constellation to begin with, but he was all at sea after missing the Fanshawe and Cook Streets turn-offs. I had to guide him after he went down Gillies Ave - he literally didn't know where he was.
David Gallop was driving your bus? Or was it De Bohun?
If I remember right, it was a Howick and Eastern bus. The poor driver had probably never even been west of Panmure.
I forgot to ask, for those who watched on TV, what was the reason we had that goal early on disallowed (the quick free kick).
Thought the ref was sharke and then realised how much more sharke the 4th official was when he came on...
I knew it would be disallowed the moment we took it, and I'd be livid if we were to concede a goal like that.
so the message here is if you give away a freekick moan at the referee so he has to explain it to you and therefore slow the game down?
We took the initiative, they were moaning - again don't see anything in the rules that meant it should be disallowed, we just ended up being punished for being proactive and quick thinking.
Conan, those are all fair points and yes you can be disappointed in things you have no control over, I totally get that. Trouble is it most often does not get you very far.
I guess since you understand that, my condescending tone was not aimed at you, but a few who seemed to think the game could and should have been shifted.
The whole no game in Wellington for a month does seem absurd, but that's something the club could look at for next year. Possibly a home/away game could have been scheduled for a period as we have towards the end of the season where there is a tight grouping of home games. Can some numbers guru give me an average of home crowds in Wellington during December? Is the club trying to move a game out of Wellington during a period where they know the festive period may hurt their gate?
As for you last point about the numbers, fair enough, I see your logic. All I can say is I go back to my point about thinking of Auckland as 4-5 different catchment areas as opposed to one, despite numbers being near half the lowest crowd in the general Auckland area, there still would have been a lot going for the first or second time.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Speaking of beer stalls, I hope someone remembers me saying 'they always score if I leave the stand during the game' right before we went 2-0 up as I was in the beer queue.
As for the many arguments in here:
Auckland crowds:
For Auckland games, those with an investment in the Nix will travel from anywhere, but casuals will only go to stadiums handy to them, so regardless of which stadium in Auckland you choose, think of that as the catchment area as opposed to 1.4 million.
They say first impressions last, so NHS could really do with promoting how much easier the journey is now, what took me an hour on Saturday would have taken three when the stadium first opened, it was terrible.
Many of you who made the effort to come all the way from Wellington rightfully pointed out the effort you made to attend, and you deserve praise for loyally supporting your side. Auckland based fans who share your enthusiasm levels did make the journey from all over town, but to boost numbers, it is the casual fans you need to capture and convince.
I think you could pick any stadium in Auckland during December and have next to no chance of beating 12k as that's prime time for casuals to have a million other things on.
After match:
I can't remember who suggested Spy Bar for an after match function but hang your head in shame: Their bouncers are the biggest shark cods in the city and if you do get in, you will find yourself surrounded by the worst Auckland stereotypes. aka 'I do nothing of use but I'm on the A-List and therefore better than you' It's tiny, and most of the Fever would hate the music (give me a chance to yell to old Blink 182 over house music any day). Never go there, ever.
Britomart Country Club is a good choice, get there early (an hour, hour and half after the match is early for a Saturday night) and enjoy banter in the garden bar and then get into 1885 without standing in line for half an hour.
Other things that have been mentioned:
'but we lost the momentum from the Adelaide game': You do realise the fixtures were announced before the season right? Before we got the unfortunate news about our license situation and before 'metrics' became more important than ever, right? You can understand that basic concept?
You can also understand as Patrick said, that a lot of other stake holders put in for matches played out of Wellington, which means it would be near on impossible to back out of an out of town fixture and give it back after the draw is made, you get that, right?
End on a good note:
I'm just stirring a few forum angsters, it was bloody good to see those of you I already knew, meet a few I knew in online forum but not in IRL and meet some I did not know at all. The pre-match venue was tops, but a little expensive, even by Auckland standards.
The Victory guys traveled in amazing numbers, were good value and gracious in defeat. The banter with them before, during, and after is what football support should be about.
I suggested Leggy should go there. Never been there myself. Prefer Country Club & the sports bar in Fort St plus a coupla bars in Newmarket myself.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
I'm unsure how they can get the desired block-buster crowd to a Nix game in Auckland
Phoenix are playing exciting, attacking football
The access to NHS was great, the bus journey has really improved.
The weather for the day and evening was fantastic,
Therefore staging a game in Albanya with an evening kick-off on a Saturday night doesn't attract a lot of Aucklanders, whether they're football fans or the occasional fan who forms the mystical walk-up crowd on a sunny day
An expectation of a headline grabbing huge crowd is unrealistic unless there's a match with free admission in the Auckland Domain (a venue which attracts a huge number of families with very young children to events despite the late finish) or on a platform in the Waitemata Harbour surrounded by yachts or we win the toilet seat two seasons in a row and then apply one of the two previous options.
This is not an anti-Auckland stance, I believe that efforts to increase attendance should be directed at the people of Wellington, rather than the visitors to a once a season game in Auckland
Without sounding like an Auckland-hater, the simple answer is that there is little buy-in.
Aucklanders probably do not feel sufficiently "related" to the Nix, which is why attending a one-off game competes with other potential attractions on the day. Those of us who are Nix supporters and live in other cities than Wellington (like me in CHCH) will attend a game when it arrives in our town no matter what simply because we already are committed to the cause. I am not sure how large that kind of core audience for WPX is in Auckland at present. If anyone can draw parallels with Auckland City FC "core" numbers, please speak up.
Core numbers for ACFC would be about 1/10 those of the Nix I'd guess, and as with the Nix whenever there's a significantly larger attendance, by the following game all those extra 'floaters' have again disappeared.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
I can't remember who suggested Spy Bar for an after match function but hang your head in shame: Their bouncers are the biggest shark cods in the city and if you do get in, you will find yourself surrounded by the worst Auckland stereotypes. aka 'I do nothing of use but I'm on the A-List and therefore better than you' It's tiny, and most of the Fever would hate the music (give me a chance to yell to old Blink 182 over house music any day). Never go there, ever.
Britomart Country Club is a good choice, get there early (an hour, hour and half after the match is early for a Saturday night) and enjoy banter in the garden bar and then get into 1885 without standing in line for half an hour.
I suggested Leggy should go there. Never been there myself. Prefer Country Club & the sports bar in Fort St plus a coupla bars in Newmarket myself.
Been a while since I've been on these forums so maybe I'm missing some in-jokes, do you not like him much?
Fair enough, as I said, BCC is a good option.
I can't remember who suggested Spy Bar for an after match function but hang your head in shame: Their bouncers are the biggest shark cods in the city and if you do get in, you will find yourself surrounded by the worst Auckland stereotypes. aka 'I do nothing of use but I'm on the A-List and therefore better than you' It's tiny, and most of the Fever would hate the music (give me a chance to yell to old Blink 182 over house music any day). Never go there, ever.
Britomart Country Club is a good choice, get there early (an hour, hour and half after the match is early for a Saturday night) and enjoy banter in the garden bar and then get into 1885 without standing in line for half an hour.
I suggested Leggy should go there. Never been there myself. Prefer Country Club & the sports bar in Fort St plus a coupla bars in Newmarket myself.
Been a while since I've been on these forums so maybe I'm missing some in-jokes, do you not like him much?
Fair enough, as I said, BCC is a good option.
Not that I don't like him - in fact I once stated he was one of my Kiwi footballing idols when I was a small kid. Just that his comment on Orkland bar/nightlife (post #652) was a bit precious for someone who ceased living here decades ago.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
BTW, our bus driver got lost on the way back to town! We ended up in Newmarket and had to take the slow way back.
Sounds like you were on my bus - there were a couple of girls on deck having a ball singing Christmas carols opera-style in the seat behind me! :-)
That driver didn't have the first clue. He should have joined the bus lane at Constellation to begin with, but he was all at sea after missing the Fanshawe and Cook Streets turn-offs. I had to guide him after he went down Gillies Ave - he literally didn't know where he was.
David Gallop was driving your bus? Or was it De Bohun?
If I remember right, it was a Howick and Eastern bus. The poor driver had probably never even been west of Panmure.
Clearly no FFA bus driver. If the FFA would be in charge of that bus, you still would driving around somewhere in NZ.
BTW, our bus driver got lost on the way back to town! We ended up in Newmarket and had to take the slow way back.
Sounds like you were on my bus - there were a couple of girls on deck having a ball singing Christmas carols opera-style in the seat behind me! :-)
That driver didn't have the first clue. He should have joined the bus lane at Constellation to begin with, but he was all at sea after missing the Fanshawe and Cook Streets turn-offs. I had to guide him after he went down Gillies Ave - he literally didn't know where he was.
David Gallop was driving your bus? Or was it De Bohun?
If I remember right, it was a Howick and Eastern bus. The poor driver had probably never even been west of Panmure.
Clearly no FFA bus driver. If the FFA would be in charge of that bus, you still would driving around somewhere in NZ.
Ya reckon? I think if it was an FFA bus driver they would have decided they were never going to get anywhere in NZ, dropped the passengers in the middle of nowhere, scrapped the bus, bought a brand new double decker bus in Australia and would be driving around Southern Sydney looking for passengers!
If it was an FFA bus there would be no driver.
But it would still be the passengers' fault.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
Speaking of the FFA, according to Shirley Bright, it was actually Melbourne Victory's commercial team who rang up de Bohun and demanded that the strip clash not be resolved, due to precious advertising dollars, so stick that in your bald pipe Kevin Moose-cod. It's your fault that your team lost because they kept passing the ball to Roly.
Speaking of the FFA, according to Shirley Bright, it was actually Melbourne Victory's commercial team who rang up de Bohun and demanded that the strip clash not be resolved, due to precious advertising dollars, so stick that in your bald pipe Kevin Moose-cod. It's your fault that your team lost because they kept passing the ball to Roly.
Speaking of the FFA, according to Shirley Bright, it was actually Melbourne Victory's commercial team who rang up de Bohun and demanded that the strip clash not be resolved, due to precious advertising dollars, so stick that in your bald pipe Kevin Moose-cod. It's your fault that your team lost because they kept passing the ball to Roly.
Er, read closer: the FFA intervened at the request of the Viktree's own commercial guys, who shat themselves at the thought of losing sponsorship money because they didn't have the right name on the blue kit.
Apparently the Victory have worn the home strip away before, they just wear the away strip at home to make up for it. I guess the home strip is worth more than the away strip so they can't do that too much.
I really don't want to defend Muscat because I think he's a large fish of whos fins you shouldn't make soup, and a smaller fish that is good dipped in batter and fried, and i'm surprised he hasn't worn his teeth to stubs with his aggressive gum chewing. But knowing comercial guys he probably didn't know that the club had made a request.
Speaking of the FFA, according to Shirley Bright, it was actually Melbourne Victory's commercial team who rang up de Bohun and demanded that the strip clash not be resolved, due to precious advertising dollars, so stick that in your bald pipe Kevin Moose-cod. It's your fault that your team lost because they kept passing the ball to Roly.
Er, read closer: the FFA intervened at the request of the Viktree's own commercial guys, who shat themselves at the thought of losing sponsorship money because they didn't have the right name on the blue kit.
I forgot to ask, for those who watched on TV, what was the reason we had that goal early on disallowed (the quick free kick).
Thought the ref was sharke and then realised how much more sharke the 4th official was when he came on...
I knew it would be disallowed the moment we took it, and I'd be livid if we were to concede a goal like that.
so the message here is if you give away a freekick moan at the referee so he has to explain it to you and therefore slow the game down?
We took the initiative, they were moaning - again don't see anything in the rules that meant it should be disallowed, we just ended up being punished for being proactive and quick thinking.
correct. The referee does not need to explain any decisions, and defenders arguing is called dissent, which is cautionable.
Speaking of the FFA, according to Shirley Bright, it was actually Melbourne Victory's commercial team who rang up de Bohun and demanded that the strip clash not be resolved, due to precious advertising dollars, so stick that in your bald pipe Kevin Moose-cod. It's your fault that your team lost because they kept passing the ball to Roly.
what an utter utter shambles. Hello, does anyone out there realise its about football?
BTW, our bus driver got lost on the way back to town! We ended up in Newmarket and had to take the slow way back.
Sounds like you were on my bus - there were a couple of girls on deck having a ball singing Christmas carols opera-style in the seat behind me! :-)
That driver didn't have the first clue. He should have joined the bus lane at Constellation to begin with, but he was all at sea after missing the Fanshawe and Cook Streets turn-offs. I had to guide him after he went down Gillies Ave - he literally didn't know where he was.
David Gallop was driving your bus? Or was it De Bohun?
If I remember right, it was a Howick and Eastern bus. The poor driver had probably never even been west of Panmure.
Clearly no FFA bus driver. If the FFA would be in charge of that bus, you still would driving around somewhere in NZ.
Ya reckon? I think if it was an FFA bus driver they would have decided they were never going to get anywhere in NZ, dropped the passengers in the middle of nowhere, scrapped the bus, bought a brand new double decker bus in Australia and would be driving around Southern Sydney looking for passengers!
I forgot to ask, for those who watched on TV, what was the reason we had that goal early on disallowed (the quick free kick).
Thought the ref was sharke and then realised how much more sharke the 4th official was when he came on...
I knew it would be disallowed the moment we took it, and I'd be livid if we were to concede a goal like that.
so the message here is if you give away a freekick moan at the referee so he has to explain it to you and therefore slow the game down?
We took the initiative, they were moaning - again don't see anything in the rules that meant it should be disallowed, we just ended up being punished for being proactive and quick thinking.
correct. The referee does not need to explain any decisions, and defenders arguing is called dissent, which is cautionable.
All in all, calling that quick free kick back was the only decision that Milliner could make.
Metaphor-zilla!
If it was an FFA bus there would be no driver.
But it would still be the passengers' fault.
I forgot to ask, for those who watched on TV, what was the reason we had that goal early on disallowed (the quick free kick).
Thought the ref was sharke and then realised how much more sharke the 4th official was when he came on...
I knew it would be disallowed the moment we took it, and I'd be livid if we were to concede a goal like that.
so the message here is if you give away a freekick moan at the referee so he has to explain it to you and therefore slow the game down?
We took the initiative, they were moaning - again don't see anything in the rules that meant it should be disallowed, we just ended up being punished for being proactive and quick thinking.
correct. The referee does not need to explain any decisions, and defenders arguing is called dissent, which is cautionable.
All in all, calling that quick free kick back was the only decision that Milliner could make.
I forgot to ask, for those who watched on TV, what was the reason we had that goal early on disallowed (the quick free kick).
Thought the ref was sharke and then realised how much more sharke the 4th official was when he came on...
I knew it would be disallowed the moment we took it, and I'd be livid if we were to concede a goal like that.
so the message here is if you give away a freekick moan at the referee so he has to explain it to you and therefore slow the game down?
We took the initiative, they were moaning - again don't see anything in the rules that meant it should be disallowed, we just ended up being punished for being proactive and quick thinking.
correct. The referee does not need to explain any decisions, and defenders arguing is called dissent, which is cautionable.
All in all, calling that quick free kick back was the only decision that Milliner could make.
I disagree - what law have the nix broken in taking it quickly? who cares what Krishna did, at the end of the day the referee has not been strong enough and has shown that arguing with the referee has benefits when it should have none (trust me I have tried a lot)
I forgot to ask, for those who watched on TV, what was the reason we had that goal early on disallowed (the quick free kick).
Thought the ref was sharke and then realised how much more sharke the 4th official was when he came on...
I knew it would be disallowed the moment we took it, and I'd be livid if we were to concede a goal like that.
so the message here is if you give away a freekick moan at the referee so he has to explain it to you and therefore slow the game down?
We took the initiative, they were moaning - again don't see anything in the rules that meant it should be disallowed, we just ended up being punished for being proactive and quick thinking.
correct. The referee does not need to explain any decisions, and defenders arguing is called dissent, which is cautionable.
All in all, calling that quick free kick back was the only decision that Milliner could make.
obviously it didn't effect the result but it was still very annoying - I wonder what would have happened if we took it quick and fudged it up, would he have allowed it then?
I forgot to ask, for those who watched on TV, what was the reason we had that goal early on disallowed (the quick free kick).
Thought the ref was sharke and then realised how much more sharke the 4th official was when he came on...
I knew it would be disallowed the moment we took it, and I'd be livid if we were to concede a goal like that.
so the message here is if you give away a freekick moan at the referee so he has to explain it to you and therefore slow the game down?
We took the initiative, they were moaning - again don't see anything in the rules that meant it should be disallowed, we just ended up being punished for being proactive and quick thinking.
correct. The referee does not need to explain any decisions, and defenders arguing is called dissent, which is cautionable.
All in all, calling that quick free kick back was the only decision that Milliner could make.
obviously it didn't effect the result but it was still very annoying - I wonder what would have happened if we took it quick and fudged it up, would he have allowed it then?
