I pretty much told them to shove it, on twitter @stuffnz feel free to do the same
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Two things every fan of the Phoenix should do:
1. Spend as much money with the club as you can reasonably afford; and
2. Stop buying the Dominion Post and reading Stuff.
New Zealand Herald ftw.
This.
I would also like to add that Stuff regularly troll these forums, especially anything with 'Terry' in the title, so i think some of you (especially the more regular user's of YF) need to assess what youre typing, keep it clean, keep it logical and remove the hate... because Stuff are lapping it up and posting it all on their website for the entire nation to read.
IMO anyone slagging off Terry, or the Nix on this forum needs to grow up or gtfo.
edit: too bad The Herald only have Soccer news...
What? God forbid that anybody should come onto a Phoenix website and say anything negative or voice their concerns. I mean it's not like it happens on any other club websites around the world, is it? Any truth in the rumour that cheerleader outfits are being provided for us?
This is not condoning in any way the hatchet job that the Dom Post is doing, by the way.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Originally posted by Smithy
Two things every fan of the Phoenix should do:
Two things every fan of the Phoenix should do:
1. Spend as much money with the club as you can reasonably afford; and
2. Stop buying the Dominion Post and reading Stuff.
New Zealand Herald ftw.
I am up for that,
and
3. let's get out in numbers next week to show our support for our club
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Jag I think the point is that this is a "supporter" forum.
There is a difference between being a worried fan and slagging Terry off.
Nobody is saying you can't say what you think - but if you're not a Phoenix fan (and a Terry fan by extension) then what are you doing here in the first place?
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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Oh no, Think of the children, who are they going to look up to when Terry loses all his money... Also as a business student who am I meant to look up too Terrys my Idol. 
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Jag I think the point is that this is a "supporter" forum.
There is a difference between being a worried fan and slagging Terry off.
Nobody is saying you can't say what you think - but if you're not a Phoenix fan (and a Terry fan by extension) then what are you doing here in the first place?
Point taken, Smithy. When I read the post I quoted, it struck me as a "anyone who doesn't post nice things about us should f**k off.." type happy-clappy post. On reading it again, I can see what you mean, so if my initial reaction was wrong, I'm happy to apologise to the poster.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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It may all be bs that the Dom Post keeps printing but it's not a good look for the club. I think Terry deserves some kind of award for everything he's done for football in this country, and should have the media building him up instead of tearing him down. I really feel sorry for the guy since this was meant to be the season that he was going to get back some of the money that he had lost, but at the moment we're only getting small crowds and bad publicity.
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I think you only need to compare the front pages of the New Zealand Herald and the DominionPost today to conclude that there is an anti-Terry agenda at the DomPost.
They have disliked him ever since The Apprentice (and I can understand why in some ways).
But KiwiChick is right - what he has done for football and Wellington deserves praise, not to have Phil Kitchen sifting through his rubbish.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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Here's what Andrew Fagan from The Mockers had to say about the Phoenix' financial issues this morning...
"Without you my life's gonna be forever NZFC..."
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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I like how this thread was all but 2 pages long and Stuff decided to have their leading story imply that the fans are worried when in fact it was maybe half that and the rest is all the sack Ricki style jokes.
Top notch work done by the Dominion Post/Fairfax once again.
Plus, almost a whole front page? Editor clearly thinks that this is far more important than all the nonsense going on in government/parliament with the hundreds and thousands of dollars of 'perks', or the fact that TWELVE people died on our roads last weekend - or even that Mana, which as far as I was concerned was with the Dom Post Realm - is having themselves a little by election...this drivel takes presidence. Mind you, with the amount of coverage the Dom Post gave to the Local election, why am I not surprised? (and their favourite little mayor lost the race - tut tut).
I stopped reading Dom Post and removed Stuff from my favourites bar thing during the last ACC beat-up until today when colleagues notified me of what was going on.
Frankly, I couldn't give a toss about Terry's business. But it does smell like someone has pissed off an editor at Dom Post now. Quite petty. I'm sure that there are cases like this going on all the time in the upper realms of business and I am sure that they are resolved like adults, not dragged through the mud via the front page thanks to what appears to be an 'investigative journalist' with an apprentice sized chip on his shoulder.
This may change Terry's involvement with the nix, it may not. I hope that it is the latter, but I am sure that there are contingencies in place if Terry decides that he can't commit as much as he would like to the nix.
Although if it does actually start to go pear shaped and Terry decides to step back, and some sort of (hypothetical) rate payers bail out occurs...well I'm just imagining Phil Kitchin's outraged report if something like that should occur.
Also, because I know that you are reading this, I would very much like NOT to be quoted in your little news bulletin website thanks Fairfax. Just know that I have not been a customer of yours for a few months now, and that will continue until you start doing some actual reporting - other than saying that you believe that nix supporters are conversing on this website, as we have always done for the last 3 or so years.
Top notch work done by the Dominion Post/Fairfax once again.
Plus, almost a whole front page? Editor clearly thinks that this is far more important than all the nonsense going on in government/parliament with the hundreds and thousands of dollars of 'perks', or the fact that TWELVE people died on our roads last weekend - or even that Mana, which as far as I was concerned was with the Dom Post Realm - is having themselves a little by election...this drivel takes presidence. Mind you, with the amount of coverage the Dom Post gave to the Local election, why am I not surprised? (and their favourite little mayor lost the race - tut tut).
I stopped reading Dom Post and removed Stuff from my favourites bar thing during the last ACC beat-up until today when colleagues notified me of what was going on.
Frankly, I couldn't give a toss about Terry's business. But it does smell like someone has pissed off an editor at Dom Post now. Quite petty. I'm sure that there are cases like this going on all the time in the upper realms of business and I am sure that they are resolved like adults, not dragged through the mud via the front page thanks to what appears to be an 'investigative journalist' with an apprentice sized chip on his shoulder.
This may change Terry's involvement with the nix, it may not. I hope that it is the latter, but I am sure that there are contingencies in place if Terry decides that he can't commit as much as he would like to the nix.
Although if it does actually start to go pear shaped and Terry decides to step back, and some sort of (hypothetical) rate payers bail out occurs...well I'm just imagining Phil Kitchin's outraged report if something like that should occur.
Also, because I know that you are reading this, I would very much like NOT to be quoted in your little news bulletin website thanks Fairfax. Just know that I have not been a customer of yours for a few months now, and that will continue until you start doing some actual reporting - other than saying that you believe that nix supporters are conversing on this website, as we have always done for the last 3 or so years.
Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic
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did i just get flamed by Fairfax media?
Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic
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Relax. I saw Terry this morning. He was smiling and whistling a happy tune as he walked along. He was also carrying a very big cheque and he told me he was popping along to the IRD Office to give the cheque to them.
(Feel free to quote that!) 
**Disclaimer: This may not actually have happened**
Jag2010-11-16 12:13:12Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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What is it with rich dudes and not paying tax?
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What is it with rich dudes and not paying tax?
Thats why they are rich dudes
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Top notch work done by the Dominion Post/Fairfax once again.
Also, because I know that you are reading this, I would very much like NOT to be quoted in your little news bulletin website thanks Fairfax. Just know that I have not been a customer of yours for a few months now, and that will continue until you start doing some actual reporting - other than saying that you believe that nix supporters are conversing on this website, as we have always done for the last 3 or so years.
Also, because I know that you are reading this, I would very much like NOT to be quoted in your little news bulletin website thanks Fairfax. Just know that I have not been a customer of yours for a few months now, and that will continue until you start doing some actual reporting - other than saying that you believe that nix supporters are conversing on this website, as we have always done for the last 3 or so years.
YF forum - the source for all the real oil on the Nix!
Journo fail!
Next it will be a quote from "YF forummer XXX who is ITK"...
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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it's well known how a number of people/organization would benefit from Terry/the Nix going down
Who would benefit from the nix going down?
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it's well known how a number of people/organization would benefit from Terry/the Nix going down
Who would benefit from the nix going down?
^ This
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Relax. I saw Terry this morning. He was smiling and whistling a happy tune as he walked along. He was also carrying a very big cheque and he told me he was popping along to the IRD Office to give the cheque to them.
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(Feel free to quote that!)
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**Disclaimer: This may not actually have happened**
Obviously false. As if Terry would be seen in Pukekohe
Three for me, and two for them.
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Terry will NEVER go bankrupt, the media just rak things up and add sh*t that makes it sound good and oh so dramatic.
not saying theres not an issue, cause theres no fire without smoke, however
TERRY WILL SORT IT, mark my words
leave the poor guy alone FFS!!!
Cool. That's okay then.
I was concerned that a guy with extremely well publicised money problems is the same guy who owns our football club, which is costing him loads of money. Now you've explained it, I feel much better about the whole situation. Thanks for that.
jag....hint of sarcasm???
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This is now serious....very serious for the club ownership.
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If the company holding the A League licence is liquidated then the licence reverts to FFA (or it may be NZF in the Phoenix's case - I'm not certain). The IRD could not "put the club up for sale" as you say.
So the IRD in fact has very little to gain from liquidating Century City Football Limited.
We're in for a month of uncertainty, but there is no danger of the club disappearing this season. The FFA could not let that happen as it would damage the credibility of the competition.
Either Terry will keep running the Phoenix, or someone else will. That someone else may well be the FFA - and there is plenty of precedent for this in the league already.
It's not in the FFA's interests for Terry to be gone however - unless he is financially mismanaging the club (which hasn't been suggested).
So my pick is that one way or another Century City Football Limited will stave off liquidation and carry on. It's in more peoples' interests for that to happen (including the IRD's, the FFA's, the other clubs', the players', and Terry's).
It is a somewhat grey area whether the IRD could "put the club up for sale". Their problem is with Century City Football Ltd. The IRD can liquidate CCF and try and recover whatever assets that might be saleable. I would assume that this could include the brand "Phoenix". It depends how you define "the club". But anything owned by CCF Ltd would be put up for sale by the IRD, including the brand name.
The only way CCF can stave off liquidation is to pay the money owed....either from Terry's assets or introducing a new investor who pays offf the IRD in exchange for part ownership.
As for the IRD having "little to gain" from liquidating CCF, that is irrelevant. The IRD is not a charity...they will vigourously persue the recovery of any money owed....in fact there is probably already heavy late payment penalties due. They will liquidate!!!!!
You are right the licence is not a saleable item. I would revert back to NZF or the FFA who would then decide on the next course of action....most probably finding another operator. This has occured quite often in the A-League.....too often for the FFA.
If CCF is liquidated and the licence goes back to FFA/NZF then "Phoenix" as we know it ceases to exist. The brand is owned by CCF, the player/staff contracts are held with CCF. Everything is up for grabs. This does not mean the label "phoenix " is finished.....it just means that the future is very complicated.
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Terry will NEVER go bankrupt, the media just rak things up and add sh*t that makes it sound good and oh so dramatic.
not saying theres not an issue, cause theres no fire without smoke, however
TERRY WILL SORT IT, mark my words
leave the poor guy alone FFS!!!
Cool. That's okay then.
I was concerned that a guy with extremely well publicised money problems is the same guy who owns our football club, which is costing him loads of money. Now you've explained it, I feel much better about the whole situation. Thanks for that.
jag....hint of sarcasm???
Maybe just a little bit 
Buffy, Terry told me he was lying low in Pukekohe to get away from the crazed Dominion Post "reporters" following him around everywhere. When told he was in the area, a reporter from the Franklin County news was quoted as saying "Terry who?"
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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you're lucky I didn't blast you then, I gave you the benefit of the doubt
first, cause I'm clearly the MATURE one between the two of us 
that what I felt, thats what I wrote, like it or LUMP it. there are many things
you have said on this forum that I've rolled my eyes at, but I'm not as rude as you!
behave yourself or I'll come to pukekohe and b**ch slap you
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you're lucky I didn't blast you then, I gave you the benefit of the doubt
first, cause I'm clearly the MATURE one between the two of us
that what I felt, thats what I wrote, like it or LUMP it. there are many things
you have said on this forum that I've rolled my eyes at, but I'm not as rude as you!
behave yourself or I'll come to pukekohe and b**ch slap you
Cool. People roll their eyes at what I've written. Funny that I have to like or lump what you feel and write, but the same courtesy isn't extended to me. Still, it's all good, no harm done.
As long as you're happy.
Jag2010-11-16 13:09:35
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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If I said something rude about Terry or Kosta would you b*tch slap me please?
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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ummmmmm I wasn't RUDE in any way shape or form to YOU!
you quoted MY post and was totally sarcastic with it, see heres the differance,
I DID extend respect to you by keeping my sarcasm to myself and not
making fun of some of your idiotic remarks that you've shared.
and yes, thanks I am happy, extremely happy infact!
anyway, just be respectful and nice is what I'm getting at.
simple ask
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You said I was rude, and immature and then threatened me with physical violence! I made no comment about you personally 
Oh, and feel free to make fun of my idiotic remarks any time you like, it's part of the fun
p.s. is that the 5 minute bitch slap, or the full half hour?
Jag2010-11-16 13:22:43Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I would be happy if you both got a room, and LisaK bitch slapped Jag for a full half hour. I would be watching of course.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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I would be happy if you both got a room, and LisaK bitch slapped Jag for a full half hour. I would be watching of course.
I wouldn't have it any other way
Looking forward to seeing the Dom Post headline "Serepisos money worries causes Phoenix fans to bitch slap each other"
Jag2010-11-16 13:20:42Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Can I bring my video camera?
Junior822010-11-16 13:20:16
Edit: Or do I need to conceal it in a shopping bag as I usually do.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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Looking forward to seing the Dom Post headline "Serepisos money worries causes Phoenix fans to bitch slap each other"
Full story on page 3
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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This is now serious....very serious for the club ownership.
.
If the company holding the A League licence is liquidated then the licence reverts to FFA (or it may be NZF in the Phoenix's case - I'm not certain). The IRD could not "put the club up for sale" as you say.
So the IRD in fact has very little to gain from liquidating Century City Football Limited.
We're in for a month of uncertainty, but there is no danger of the club disappearing this season. The FFA could not let that happen as it would damage the credibility of the competition.
Either Terry will keep running the Phoenix, or someone else will. That someone else may well be the FFA - and there is plenty of precedent for this in the league already.
It's not in the FFA's interests for Terry to be gone however - unless he is financially mismanaging the club (which hasn't been suggested).
So my pick is that one way or another Century City Football Limited will stave off liquidation and carry on. It's in more peoples' interests for that to happen (including the IRD's, the FFA's, the other clubs', the players', and Terry's).
It is a somewhat grey area whether the IRD could "put the club up for sale". Their problem is with Century City Football Ltd. The IRD can liquidate CCF and try and recover whatever assets that might be saleable. I would assume that this could include the brand "Phoenix". It depends how you define "the club". But anything owned by CCF Ltd would be put up for sale by the IRD, including the brand name.
The only way CCF can stave off liquidation is to pay the money owed....either from Terry's assets or introducing a new investor who pays offf the IRD in exchange for part ownership.
As for the IRD having "little to gain" from liquidating CCF, that is irrelevant. The IRD is not a charity...they will vigourously persue the recovery of any money owed....in fact there is probably already heavy late payment penalties due. They will liquidate!!!!!
You are right the licence is not a saleable item. I would revert back to NZF or the FFA who would then decide on the next course of action....most probably finding another operator. This has occured quite often in the A-League.....too often for the FFA.
If CCF is liquidated and the licence goes back to FFA/NZF then "Phoenix" as we know it ceases to exist. The brand is owned by CCF, the player/staff contracts are held with CCF. Everything is up for grabs. This does not mean the label "phoenix " is finished.....it just means that the future is very complicated.
Very little of that is accurate.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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Can I bring my video camera?
Edit: Or do I need to conceal it in a shopping bag as I usually do.
Yeah, but lose the trenchcoat...
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I like the interactive time line and little map they felt necessary to produce.
Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic
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16 Nov 2010, 1:13 pm - Fans start fighting with each other
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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16 Nov 2010, 1:13 pm - Fans start fighting with each other
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I've known about the tax bill for about a month now so i've been waiting for the story to be broken. Theres a few buisnessmen willing to step in. Others have already started buying up terrys current assets.
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I officially offer to pay some of the bills stated in the paper.
Just the small $100 ones though.
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My bet is still that Terry is on borrowed time and the IRD are not to be trifled with. Should he be dispatched to history as the saviour of NZ football who lost his club, so be it. I will forever remain thankful for his contribution, and shout him a beer if I were ever to run across him and say thanks.
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splashed all over front page of the Dom Post today.
It's interesting that at no point does this investigative team from the Dominion Post even try to offer any reason on why this situation has arisen. I would have thought their business journalists would have the ability to offer some clarity or explanation. The again, that may be expecting too much.
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
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Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
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My bet is s<snip>er if I were ever to run across him and say thanks.
Love that pic!
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
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