I'm a bit bemused at all the sudden Herbert hating. In case anyone forgot the context:
1/ A co-owner started meddling with the team's strategy via the media
2/ Ricki played ball and try to play the new strategy
3/ This failed
4/ A bunch of senior players decided to go back to the older style
So the question has to be, was there even a common objective or strategy heading into this match?
I am not excusing the performances and lack of effort put in tonight, but don't forget the context to this.
Gareth- go ahead and 
, then watch him lead the AWs to the quarter finals of the World Cup while your precious business investment turns to shit. The Phoenix was always built on a team culture, everyone used to say without a doubt that it was the strongest culture in the league. Tonight is what happens when you undermine that culture with your dickishness.