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Posted September 03, 2025 02:56 · last edited September 03, 2025 02:56

An agrument over whether Germany was liberated or conquered?
Does beat bickering as to whether Domey should resign.

I guess what Number 8 was saying is that most Germans preferred surrendering to the Western Alllies rather than the vengeful Cossacks. Hence a big internal migration of Germans heading east in the final few weeks when the end was nigh.

Without poring over the maps of May 1945, sounds like all the Allies had grabbed a slice of German land by then. Didn't the Americans allow de Gaulle's Free French to basically take all of Alsace-Lorraine? 

Germany was slammer punch defeated, not 'liberated'. What the Allies wanted to avoid was a 1918 Treaty of Versailles type armstice, after which many aggrieved Hun like Hitler felt they weren't truly defeated, but betrayed by their cowardly politicians. And so lots of burning anger & resentment to fuel the Nazis as they came to power in the 1920s-30s. By basically destroying Germany in 1945, and showing their people they were well and truly defeated, they avoided a repeat or National Socialism rebirth.

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An agrument over whether Germany was liberated or conquered?
Does beat bickering to whether Domey should resign.

I guess what Number 8 was saying is that most Germans preferred surrendering to the Western Alllies rather than the vengeful Cossacks. Hence a big internal migration of Germans heading east in the final few weeks when the end was nigh.

Without poring over the maps of May 1945, sounds like all the Allies had grabbed a slice of German land by then. Didn't the Americans allow de Gaulle's Free French to basically take all of Alsace-Lorraine? 

Germany was slammer punch defeated, not 'liberated'. What the Allies wanted to avoid was a 1918 Treaty of Versailles type armstice, after which many aggrieved Hun like Hitler felt they weren't truly defeated, but betrayed by their cowardly politicians. And so lots of burning anger & resentment to fuel the Nazis as they came to power in the 1920s-30s. By basically destroying Germany in 1945, and showing their people they were well and truly defeated, they avoided a repeat or National Socialism rebirth.