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Posted February 07, 2025 02:22 · last edited February 07, 2025 02:27

martinb
The next is does what Chief has said or what the ref has said fit within a legitimate interpretation? 

Is there a section or perhaps a recent instruction from the referees boss that allows the ref interpretation, even though it appears there is contact and it impedes the player? At least myself, Fenix, Kris etc Jones and a few others think those two points are established in any case.

Sorry I can’t fish out all of Chief’s comments. One thing I remember he said was that Ishige didn’t have possession of the ball. If the player has anticipated the contact is that a genuine factor? 

And one that has annoyed me in other cases that doesn’t apply here, does it matter if there’s a genuine attempt to play the ball or if it is a lot of kicking heels, shirt pulling, grabbing shoulders etc? 

Sure it can be soft, but it can be off putting, particularly trying to balance to get a shot off and there’s no attempt to legitimately play the game there. I can see both sides of that. You don’t want lots of minor infractions constantly, but play football, grr. That is more Hughes and Jack wotsit later on. 

Possession of the ball has nothing to do with whether a foul has occurred or not. If Chiefy said that, hes totally wrong.

Id also like to know what "instructions" come down from referees bosses, because to me there is one set of rules to be applied. I suspect these "instructions" sometimes are interpreted to override and ignore certain rules.
 
There are rules in the book that are often not applied - such as keeper holding the ball too long, players delaying a restart by touching the ball when a foul is called (player must be booked) and throw ins and goal kicks being delayed by waiting for other players to get into position.

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Unknown editor edited February 07, 2025 02:27
martinb
The next is does what Chief has said or what the ref has said fit within a legitimate interpretation? 

Is there a section or perhaps a recent instruction from the referees boss that allows the ref interpretation, even though it appears there is contact and it impedes the player? At least myself, Fenix, Kris etc Jones and a few others think those two points are established in any case.

Sorry I can’t fish out all of Chief’s comments. One thing I remember he said was that Ishige didn’t have possession of the ball. If the player has anticipated the contact is that a genuine factor? 

And one that has annoyed me in other cases that doesn’t apply here, does it matter if there’s a genuine attempt to play the ball or if it is a lot of kicking heels, shirt pulling, grabbing shoulders etc? 

Sure it can be soft, but it can be off putting, particularly trying to balance to get a shot off and there’s no attempt to legitimately play the game there. I can see both sides of that. You don’t want lots of minor infractions constantly, but play football, grr. That is more Hughes and Jack wotsit later on. 

Possession of the ball has nothing to do with whether a foul has occurred or not. If Chiefy said that, hes totally wrong.

Id also like to know what "instructions" come down from referees bosses, because to me there is one set of rules to be applied. I suspect these "instructions" sometimes are interpreted to override and ignore certain rules.
 
There are rules in the book are often not applied, such as keeper holding the ball too long, players delaying a restart by touching the ball when a foul is called (player must be booked) and throw ins and goal kicks being delayed by waiting for other players to get into position.
Unknown editor edited February 07, 2025 02:26
martinb
The next is does what Chief has said or what the ref has said fit within a legitimate interpretation? 

Is there a section or perhaps a recent instruction from the referees boss that allows the ref interpretation, even though it appears there is contact and it impedes the player? At least myself, Fenix, Kris etc Jones and a few others think those two points are established in any case.

Sorry I can’t fish out all of Chief’s comments. One thing I remember he said was that Ishige didn’t have possession of the ball. If the player has anticipated the contact is that a genuine factor? 

And one that has annoyed me in other cases that doesn’t apply here, does it matter if there’s a genuine attempt to play the ball or if it is a lot of kicking heels, shirt pulling, grabbing shoulders etc? 

Sure it can be soft, but it can be off putting, particularly trying to balance to get a shot off and there’s no attempt to legitimately play the game there. I can see both sides of that. You don’t want lots of minor infractions constantly, but play football, grr. That is more Hughes and Jack wotsit later on. 

Possession of the ball has nothing to do with whether a foul has occurred or not. If Chiefy said that, hes totally wrong