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Monto
Honestly not that impressed by Wrexham, look pretty meh
They're certainly no Watford - who attracted a lot of attention with their rapid rise from the old Fourth Div. to the First with a promotion almost every season in th late 70's - early 80's.
They toured NZ to play the All Whites pre-World Cup in 1982 weeks after gaining promotion to the First Div.
Wrexham have no one of the class of Watford's future England international strikers Barnes and Blissett.
That All Whites side were entirely amateur and did pretty well vs. Watford.
Back when the All Whites were all amateurs (semi-pro at best, the handful who played in Australia) they usually did okay against English first and second tier sides.
An amateur Auckland rep side beat top tier Stoke City (Geoff Hurst, Gordon Banks) 3-1 in 1973.
Christchurch United drew 2-2 with a strong England B in 1978 at English Park
Memory lane:
https://www.rsssf.org/tablesn/nz-intres-det80.html
An amateur NZ with most players playing in our national league beat Div. 3 Reading (fielding guest players George Best and Martin Peters) at Reading. Reading won Div. 3 the next season and stayed in the second tier for many years after that. Went down only 3-2 to Div. 2 Portsmouth on that same tour.
Beaten by three goals by strong top tier Newcastle (Beardsley, Waddle) and Leicester (Lineker, Alan Smith) sides.
Oct 29 1984, Reading, Elm Park, 3890 Reading 1-2 New Zealand (Stuart Beavon 68' - Grant Turner 24', Colin Walker 59') Reading (England): Alan Judge, Steve Richardson, Martin Hicks (Stuart Beavon), Colin Duncan, Ken Price, Dean Horrix, Trevor Senior, Lawrie Sanchez, David Crown, Martin Peters, George Best. Coach: n/a New Zealand: Clint Gosling, Ricki Herbert, Keith Garland, Allan Boath [c], John Leijh (Martin Felton), Grant Turner, Peter Simonsen (Steve Sumner), Raymond Harris (Keith Mackay), William McClure, Colin Walker, Kevin Birch (Steve Wooddin). Coach: Allan Jones.

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Monto
Honestly not that impressed by Wrexham, look pretty meh
They're certainly no Watford - who attracted a lot of attention with their rapid rise from the old Fourth Div. to the First with a promotion almost every season in th late 70's - early 80's.
They toured NZ to play the All Whites pre-World Cup in 1982 weeks after gaining promotion to the First Div.
Wrexham have no one of the class of Watford's future England international strikers Barnes and Blissett.
That All Whites side were entirely amateur and did pretty well vs. Watford.
Back when the All Whites were all amateurs (semi-pro at best, the handful who played in Australia) they usually did okay against English first and second tier sides.
An amateur Auckland rep side beat top tier Stoke City (Geoff Hurst, Gordon Banks) 3-1 in 1973.
Memory lane:
https://www.rsssf.org/tablesn/nz-intres-det80.html
An amateur NZ with most players playing in our national league beat Div. 3 Reading (fielding guest players George Best and Martin Peters) at Reading. Reading won Div. 3 the next season and stayed in the second tier for many years after that. Went down only 3-2 to Div. 2 Portsmouth on that same tour.
Beaten by three goals by strong top tier Newcastle (Beardsley, Waddle) and Leicester (Lineker, Alan Smith) sides.
Oct 29 1984, Reading, Elm Park, 3890
Reading              1-2  New Zealand
 (Stuart Beavon 68' - Grant Turner 24', Colin Walker 59')
Reading (England):
   Alan Judge, Steve Richardson, Martin Hicks (Stuart Beavon), Colin 
   Duncan, Ken Price, Dean Horrix, Trevor Senior, Lawrie Sanchez,
   David Crown, Martin Peters, George Best.
   Coach: n/a
New Zealand:
   Clint Gosling, Ricki Herbert, Keith Garland, Allan Boath [c], John 
   Leijh (Martin Felton), Grant Turner, Peter Simonsen (Steve Sumner), 
   Raymond Harris (Keith Mackay), William McClure, Colin Walker, Kevin 
   Birch (Steve Wooddin).
   Coach: Allan Jones.

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