2024/25 Women's Squad Speculation, Confirmation and Mutual Termination

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about 1 year ago
RR
The Herald understands some Wellington Phoenix players, too, have reached out to the new club about a possible move north.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/football/auckland-fc/football-fern-anna-leat-eyed-by-auckland-fc-for-new-a-league-team/3KEQLXVAYFCRZDGUJ5RUWHIZFI/

Shouldn't really be a surprise since given the Auckland centric nature of Women's Football in NZ. Guess we will have to go shopping in ChCh again to fill up the squad.
Yeah it's annoying to see and I hadn't really thought about it until I read that article, but it isnt really surprising considering how few pro contracts are available in NZ and only so many starting spots in the Wahinix too
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Wouldn't be shocked if they picked up Chloe Knott as well. Much easier to deal with the part time nature of the ALW when you are closer to home (and no issues with a different coach).
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Half a PintjaggedlittlenixLT01
about 1 year ago
Sigh.  Well I guess it is to be expected. Chloe Knott would be the first you'd think to be offered a contract as an ex-Wahinix player.  It would not shock me if Annalie Longo packs her bag too.  Does anyone know if we have any full time pros in the team or are they all semi-pros?  Is it the same across all the teams?
Auckland will have more money so there's more incentive to move.

This is our last chance to win something before they enter the comp.  
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about 1 year ago
Longo's partner Alana Gunn (coach NZ girls U17s) is based in Welly or Auckland?

I imagine Ela Jerez will be a prime target for Auckland, being from the 09.
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coochiee
Longo's partner Alana Gunn (coach NZ girls U17s) is based in Welly or Auckland?

I imagine Ela Jerez will be a prime target for Auckland, being from the 09.

Gunn is one of the options reportedly under consideration for the coaching gig. That might be bit awks if she got the job.
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about 1 year ago
Oh well, whatever happens in the transfer market ALW derbies will be something to look forward to.

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about 1 year ago
Procrastinixing
Sigh.  Well I guess it is to be expected. Chloe Knott would be the first you'd think to be offered a contract as an ex-Wahinix player.  It would not shock me if Annalie Longo packs her bag too.  Does anyone know if we have any full time pros in the team or are they all semi-pros?  Is it the same across all the teams?
Auckland will have more money so there's more incentive to move.

This is our last chance to win something before they enter the comp.  
This is premature panic I'd say - our success in the transfer market and the strength of NZ domestic players coming into the side in recent years illustrate that there's plenty to go around for both the Nix and Auckland.

Will they dominate signings from the northern prem? Probably, but the Nix have picked up good players from all over.

I would hope Annalie stays as she has a strong influence at the Nix and with her experience in off-field football roles probably has a good shot at taking a role behind the scenes after she hangs up the boots too.
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coochieekwlapSimon B
about 1 year ago
Plenty of Kiwi ALW players at Aussie clubs, who Auckland may try entice back to NZ as well.

Ruby Nathan, Deven Jackson, Kelli Brown, Liz Anton, Claudia Bunge, Bri Edwards. Rebekah Stott even. 
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about 1 year ago
coochiee
Plenty of Kiwi ALW players at Aussie clubs, who Auckland may try entice back to NZ as well.

Ruby Nathan, Deven Jackson, Kelli Brown, Liz Anton, Claudia Bunge, Bri Edwards. Rebekah Stott even. 

ALW deals are not full time gigs, so more work opportunities outside Football in Auckland could be a real lure for some of them.
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about 1 year ago
coochiee
Longo's partner Alana Gunn (coach NZ girls U17s) is based in Welly or Auckland?

I imagine Ela Jerez will be a prime target for Auckland, being from the 09.

Pretty sure Alana and Longo are both Chch based.
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about 1 year ago
Is Jerez, really a product of the Academy though?

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Doloras
about 1 year ago
coochiee
Is Jerez, really a product of the Academy though?

Not a product but yes a graduate
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about 1 year ago · edited about 1 year ago · History
Looking ahead to next season, please correct me if any of this is wrong

Contract finishes end of season: Brooke Neary, Carolina Vilao, Zoe McMeeken, Tiana Jaber, Mackenzie Barry, Alivia Kelly, Rebecca Lake, Maya McCutcheon, Amelia Abbott, Mebae Tanaka, Annalie Longo, Grace Jale, Olivia Fergusson, Emma Main.
Contract finishes end of next season: Aimee Danieli, Ella McMillan, Lara Wall, Alyssa Whinham, Manaia Elliott, Daisy Brazendale, Ela Jerez, Ella McCann, Olivia Ingham.

As typical in the women's game quite a lot on single year contracts - but who do we want to stay, who can we realistically keep around and who might be tempted by offers elsewhere like other A-L clubs (incl Auckland) and the US/English leagues?

For me I really hope we can have Annalie Longo playing another year and it would be valuable to keep Maya McCutcheon on too, imo these two have been outstanding performers in the midfield and often carried our team. Jaber and Barry also decent defenders for A-L so would be ideal to keep them on board but both may have overseas interest.
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Oi Oi Edgecumbe
about 1 year ago · edited about 1 year ago · History
Annalie Longo is the most important contract we have to renew. She is our most important and best player by a long shot, so that needs to be priority number one.

Would like to see McCutcheon back next season, but I imagine she will get interest from the USL, so it is probably unlikely.

Also I remember seeing an article late last year from one of the papers about the Auckland women's team, and they said that some Wahinix players had contacted Auckland about next season - so we will likely lose a couple up north.

Edit: The article where it says Wahinix players have contacted Auckland FC about a move north
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Procrastinixing
about 1 year ago
Apart from Maya, who else would we try to keep from our imports?  Tanaka hasn't been given enough time to really shine. Maybe Carolina?  
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LG
about 1 year ago
Kelly has been good, Vilao too

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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Bullion
about 1 year ago
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
Kelly has been good, Vilao too
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
Kelly has been good, Vilao too

Kelly depends on what happens to Barry , Jaber and Lake. And even Van Der Meer,or is she totally out of the reckoning now?
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about 1 year ago
Fenix
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
Kelly has been good, Vilao too
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
Kelly has been good, Vilao too

Kelly depends on what happens to Barry , Jaber and Lake. And even Van Der Meer,or is she totally out of the reckoning now?

MVDM has a contract offer on the table, dependent on her recovery.
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about 1 year ago
I’m guessing Temple will be replaced if we finish 8th or below.
Small-ball has been easily thwarted and his recruitment / perseverance with players in key positions very questionable?
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When it comes to filling gaps in the first team next season, how relevant are our various Academy teams?

Reason I ask is that the Women's Reserves played in the U15 Mixed CDL last year with not-exactly-stellar results, and while our Academy U18 Girls are in the Women's Central League this year they had an even worse run in the CDL which doesn't inspire confidence.

We obviously have talented players in the system, but where are they hiding? Or are the 2024 results I'm looking at basically meaningless in this context?
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about 1 year ago
I wouldn't pay much mind to results against boys teams. Too hard to compare and obviously the focus is not on results but development.

Last couple of years the academy team has put up some decent results in the National League and Kate Sheppard Cup, but they get decimated easily by first team squads and age group World Cups, which can affect their results.

But like the boys academy they are a pretty young side - and remember this academy itself is younger having only been around 5~ years.
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about 1 year ago
All fair points - re-reading my post it sounds unduly critical of the players (who of course could run rings around me while blindfolded), but I guess where I was heading is that the results I know about for our Academy teams don’t seem to fit with the quality of our Academy players (at least not the ones who’ve been promoted recently).

I’m expecting lots of new faces in next year’s squad once AFC are done raiding us, so it’d be cool to see some of them playing in the Ressies this season. But sounds like I shouldn’t read too much into the results, especially in mixed comps.
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about 1 year ago
Simon B
All fair points - re-reading my post it sounds unduly critical of the players (who of course could run rings around me while blindfolded), but I guess where I was heading is that the results I know about for our Academy teams don’t seem to fit with the quality of our Academy players (at least not the ones who’ve been promoted recently).

I’m expecting lots of new faces in next year’s squad once AFC are done raiding us, so it’d be cool to see some of them playing in the Ressies this season. But sounds like I shouldn’t read too much into the results, especially in mixed comps.
AFC will have plenty of non Phoenix players to pick from. Talented players  in Auckland have been overlooked by Phoenix in the last couple of years unless they are younger and have moved to the Academy. 
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LT01Simon Btheprof
about 1 year ago
If Auckland FC hire Alanna Gunn as coach then you would expect Longo to go to Auckland as well. As much as I had hoped the team would be higher up the ladder we are probably only 1-2 players away from having a great squad. Eg if we swapped Ferguson for Speckmeier we would have probably gotten another 9 points. The imports can be pretty hit or miss. On the whole this is our best group of imports. As important as having a great keeper is, I would be happy with a local player being keeper and chasing a game winning forward. If we had of kept Bree and tried another import attacker would we be any worse off over all? Probably not. I hope we give some game time to youngsters now that we are all but out of the running. We had pretty low energy in that last game. Temple needs to grow his hair back again. 
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about 1 year ago
Out of the imports. I'd try to keep three. Vilao, McCutcheon and Tanaka.
Kelly hasn't been that great for me. She is young and this is her first pro gig. I think both MVDM and R Lake are better options. Tanaka is more skilled than many starters, seems a bit of a waste her only getting limited minutes. Feel she never got a consistent run. 
Goal scoring has been an issue so you have to look at the front third and ask questions. Ferguson was all energy but would the likes of Kelly Brown or Ava Pritchard got as many goals as Ferguson ?. Think we need to address this area the most. Real shame also that Emma Main didn't kick on this season, she has shown great promise but has not really delivered this year.
Wynham remains an enigma. Absolutely brilliant on one day then like last game seemed to turn the ball over every time she touched it.
Do we need to see more of the younger brigade in the last two games. The like of Ingham and Jerez. 
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FenixUn
about 1 year ago
Would be surprised if Tanaka stayed on given she's been on the bench most of the season.

Vilao has been decent in patches but also made some mistakes - imo she's not a must-keep player but if we did re-sign her I'm not complaining.

Must must must keep Longo - we know she has coaching ambitions and is a respected leader in the group so put it in her contract that after she hangs up her boots she can stick around in an assistant coach capacity? 

McCutcheon I would love to keep but think it will be hard as she's easily good enough to play at a decent level back home in the US.
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jaggedlittlenix
12 months ago · edited 12 months ago · History
Well sounds like Humphries has been ruled out. But she's got a 3 year deal at the Nix Academy. So what is her wife Priestman going to do in NZ once her coaching ban finishes later this year?

There is only 3 women's coaching jobs in NZ, that would be anywhere worth her while. Football Ferns gig? Nix ALW? New Auckland ALW job?

That's unless she is a shock candidate to replace Chiefy!!

And some interesting comments in that article on the resources and cash the Nix have invested in the ALW team, compared to other A League clubs.


Priestman won a gold medal at the Tokyo Olympics with Canada in 2021 and would have been unattainable for any A-League Women team before her ban, though
Humphries once told Stuff the couple dreamed of returning to New Zealand to coach the Football Ferns one day.

“That’s a quality coach right there,” Gill said. “If that presented itself as an opportunity, we would be silly not to consider it. “But that’s probably a big fish.”

Humphries loomed as an obvious candidate to replace Temple herself, having coached Canada at age-group level and worked as an assistant at Liverpool before returning home to New Zealand to head up the Phoenix academy in December last year.

However, Gill suggested Humphries was settled in her role as Phoenix academy director, having signed a three-year contract five months ago, and they were reluctant to move her.

Temple’s assistants Amy Shepherd and Tory Schiltgen could be other options if the Phoenix decide to promote from within, which they have done for their past two head coach hires.

“Emma is pretty settled in the academy,” Gill said. “She signed a three-year contract and was pretty focussed on that role and what she wanted to do there.

“At the moment I don’t think she has the interest in the A-League Women space and she’s doing incredible work down there [at the academy] at the moment so we don’t want to upset the apple cart there.”


Gill acknowledged the team had made big strides during Temple’s two-year tenure but said the Phoenix have particularly “high” expectations because of the resources the club dedicated to the women’s programme.

Temple is understood to be one of only a few fulltime head coaches in the A-League Women.

“He’s taken them to a place where we have evolved it from where it was the first couple of seasons but ultimately we’ve fallen short of what we wanted to achieve as a football club and it was felt it was time to look at something different and continue that evolution with somebody new,” Gill explained.

The investment from the owners is significant in the women’s space compared to the men’s space. We operate at a good level of budget for players and staffing. We’ve probably got one of the biggest football departments in the league so there is a high expectation on that programme.”
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martinb
12 months ago
If Priestman gets the job, we've got to change the name of the active support to The Drones

Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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AntzbrLGLT01+2
12 months ago
So it begins
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12 months ago
Is Bev even interested in the job? I doubt we could afford her anyway. 
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12 months ago
Matildas job is vacant. It pays well. 

Won’t happen of course, but if Sermanni could coach the Ferns whilst living in Sydney why not vice versa?
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12 months ago
I dont expect we will see these again for 25/26:
Vilao
Kelly
McCutcheon
Fergusson
Longo
Abbott
Jaber

Question Marks:
Barry
Jale
Tanaka

Incoming:
Van Der Meer
Lake


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FULT01Southernix
12 months ago
Whoever comes in is picking up a poisoned chalice. Infighting amongst the squad and a lot of players looking to move.

I believe the above only because the same guy who told me that, told me Longo was leaving 3 days ago.
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12 months ago
MetalLegNZ
Whoever comes in is picking up a poisoned chalice. Infighting amongst the squad and a lot of players looking to move.

I believe the above only because the same guy who told me that, told me Longo was leaving 3 days ago.
also hardly any of them have multi year contracts. I expect Jale and Barry to head overseas to try another league. Lots of them will be chatting to Wisnewski about the second tier USA league which probably pays better than alw. And depending on if the Auckland team launch this coming season or next those who have family in Auckland would surely head there and maybe have free accommodation instead of that expense while playing in Wellington? 
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12 months ago
Didn't feel right to put this in the Longo thread so gonna suggest it here - knowing Annalie's retirement well in advance is a very good chance for the next coach to reform the way we play.

She has been outstanding this season but at times the team was definitely too reliant on her, and other teams identified this too. If we want to make finals and challenge for silverware, we can't rely on just one player putting in 7/10 performances (or better) every week. 

Hopefully the next coach can instill these expectations from more of the team.
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Un
12 months ago · edited 12 months ago · History
Random thought, and probably not likely given that Temple leaving the Nix has only just been announced.

But could it be that Longo's partner Alana Gunn is the new incoming Nix ALW coach? So Annalie retired because could be a bit awkward with her partner as head coach?  Again I've probably got it wrong given Temple has only just left, so Nix you'd think only just sorting though possible new coach options.

Gunn is the most successful coach on the domestic women's scene, taking the Pride to many national titles. Lots of her players going onto the Ferns. She's currently with NZF as Women’s Talent Manager and Girls U17s national team coach. Not sure if with that role she's based in Auckland or Wellington.

Certainly Gunn and Longo wouldn't be a bad coaching combo for the Nix. Gonna be an interesting few months, with coaching jobs to be decided at the Football Ferns, Nix ALW & Auckland ALW teams. And we have Bev Priestman floating around NZ.
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