WPW R1 vs Melbourne City | Sun 20th November | 3:00pm | RoF

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over 3 years ago
Rollo
Kenyabold
“ What did he get wrong?”
Whinham is a 10, definitely no striker and VDM is a left back
I do think Whinham will play as a 10, roaming behind a lone striker (perhaps I should've listed it as a 4-4-1-1 or a 4-2-3-1) but as you can see in these images taken from games last season Whinham was positioned very high without the ball. (In the first image LM Grace Jale is off camera, and in the second it's Whinham who pushes up to the left to put pressure on the ball not Jale). Lawrence has referred to her attack this season as a front "four" (and I don't think she's planning on playing Whinham out wide).
As for saying van der Meer will start right-back, well she did play a bit of right-back for Melbourne City last season (the team they're playing - she's on defence in the image below)
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Personally I think Foster will nail down the starting role at left-back, I just pushed her forward for this game given all the injuries and the fact there's lots of fullbacks and picked the most versatile player to play midfield. But then I was thinking well if I'd have Foster as my starting left-back when everyone is fit and Vosper is there too, could van der Meer actually have a better chance of playing on the right? McMeeken didn't start right-back for the under-20s and maybe for this game it's better go with the more experienced options (Lawrence also suggested she won't start Clegg with Rolston out because it's too big an occasion).

I also would prefer Pritchard as a 9 and Satchell out wide but Pritchard has played out wide for the Phoenix and the Under-20s (while Lawrence has been assistant) and the Ferns use Satchell as a striker in a front two, so was more guessing what she'll do there.

Haven't seen any of the pre-season games they've arranged with the boys teams so I genuinely have no idea, but hopefully that explained my rationale.

Yep I see your rationale but having seen Foster play live recently for NR up here I doubt she has the speed to stop A League forwards getting around her. (Just as Vosper was occasionally exposed and then moved infield) 
But she is a  v good versatile player for sure.
I expect Whinham to be genuine 10, VDM LB and ZM RB

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over 3 years ago
Damn looking up what you can and can't take in and you can't take pushchairs.

Trying to take the whole whānau so that's a pain in the hole.
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kwlap
over 3 years ago
Fire up!! COYN! 🔥 🔥 🔥 
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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martinb
over 3 years ago
How is the weather in Welly today?
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over 3 years ago
maynardf
How is the weather in Welly today?
It’s turned into a muggy scorcher
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over 3 years ago


Dario V back in Wellington, that is a bit of a throwback.
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coochieedunnixkwlapMo+1
over 3 years ago
This crowd is disappointing 
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KiwiMancunianMopi
over 3 years ago
Only way to watch is on Sky?
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over 3 years ago
Fire Up 🔥 !


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over 3 years ago
Bananas
This crowd is disappointing 
yup. Looks like keeping the RWC up in Auckland and Whangarei was the right move, looks like Wellington doesn't really back women's sport
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over 3 years ago
Nix holding their own so far, another corner

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 3 years ago
Bananas
This crowd is disappointing 
 The size of the crowd maybe, but the actual crowd that’s there is not. Theyve  in fine voice for the first 30


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BananaskwlapLT01martinb+5
over 3 years ago
Decent start!

Satchell what a terrier! Hassett class, Knott working hard, Taylor stamping her mark! Some of the younger one havent really gotten into the game yet though or occasion is getting to them - Whinham and Foster for me. 

WHat has suprised me is the physicality. Nice to see the ref waving play on as well. Been a good watch. Anyone know the attendance? 
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BananaskwlapLT01martinb+1
over 3 years ago
Quite enjoying this so far. Crowd in good voice, pretty even game without having too many gilt-edged chances.

Foster, Barry, Satchel & Hassett been our best so far.

Just as I say that, don't know how City have missed that one, and it's away off the post!
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over 3 years ago
Mainland Analyst
Decent start!

Satchell what a terrier! Hassett class, Knott working hard, Taylor stamping her mark! Some of the younger one havent really gotten into the game yet though or occasion is getting to them - Whinham and Foster for me. 

WHat has suprised me is the physicality. Nice to see the ref waving play on as well. Been a good watch. Anyone know the attendance? 

They were aiming for an ALW attendance record of somewhere in the region of just over 6k.

At a guess it looks somewhere in the vicinity of 3,500-4,000.
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over 3 years ago
Really impressive first half. Just need to get closer to goal before taking out shot. 
Amped for the 2nd half!!!
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over 3 years ago · edited over 3 years ago · History
Watching Taylor/Barry just makes me happy.

We’re very confident knocking the ball around from the centre circle to the box. And our high press has worked well. At least we seem to win the ball in their half a fair bit. Goal threat wise fairly anonymous so far. 

Picking up from where they left off last season! Come on Phoenix!


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over 3 years ago
ClubOranje
Bananas
This crowd is disappointing 
 The size of the crowd maybe, but the actual crowd that’s there is not. Theyve  in fine voice for the first 30


Yea my post was before kick off.

Chants are carrying well in the Stadium.
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over 3 years ago
Game going good so far.

Defense is closing in well when City make chances.

Making great chances ourselves and some fantastic speed getting up the field at times.

Game could go either way at this point.
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over 3 years ago
pickledmyself
Bananas
This crowd is disappointing 
yup. Looks like keeping the RWC up in Auckland and Whangarei was the right move, looks like Wellington doesn't really back women's sport

Oh fudge off mate. This is more expensive to go to than the rugby and far less of an occasion. If there's five thousand here today thats a great crowd. 
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over 3 years ago
Eek. 2 in 2 for City, could've been a third in 5, but saved by the offside flag.

City going for the throat in this opening 10 minutes of the half.
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kwlapMoNi
over 3 years ago
Again it’s just a poor losing performance from a Phoenix team. People won’t turn up every home game to watch this sh!t.


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KiwiMancunianMoNi
over 3 years ago
Wynham was invisible 

Founder

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billyspleen75KiwiMancunianMaMo
over 3 years ago
Feverish
Wynham was invisible 

Yep poor
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over 3 years ago
Cracking first half. crap 2nd half. But lots to like about the team and lots of places where there is huge potential for growth. Can't wait until next week. 
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BananasLGLT01Oi Oi Edgecumbe
over 3 years ago
also, awesome that we now have the record for the biggest stand alone game in the league!
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BananascoochieeDolorasHattyCW+3
over 3 years ago
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Barry and Taylor showing to be a great combination again
Edwards made some good saves
Foster has potential
Hassett and Satchel as expected are already some of our better players

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Knott's passing was atrocious
Whinham looked like she didn't want to be there
McMeeken looked like she shouldn't be there

Hopefully we can put this one down to playing a very good team / big game nerves.
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over 3 years ago
kwlap
also, awesome that we now have the record for the biggest stand alone game in the league!


My guess was a bit off it seems, but very well done. 👏

Got more than the lads got last week too!

Wonder what kind of realistic targets are being set for attendances this season? 
Is 3-5k realistic once the novelty of this first match has worn off?

Solid enough signs in the first half from the ladies, but easy to see them run out of puff in the end. Absolutely bushwhacked from the 45th-75th minutes & perhaps can count themselves lucky it wasn't more.

Happy that we got a goal, unlucky not to get a 2nd with Lancaster's late strike coming back off the post. But at least there is something to work with at both ends. Quite happy with that first half performance overall - shows we can play and control games, but we've got to be able to compete for the full 90.

Hats off to all those who turned up.
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over 3 years ago
I really love this team ay, tough to lose 4-1 but it didn’t feel like we got demolished. I think we’ve got a lot of potential and will look pretty decent once everyone’s fit, we’ve done some tinkering and have the best XI + formation sorted.

Need to sharpen up our passing first, it was an issue last season and caused a lot of turnovers. Also a bit worried about our goal scoring without a focal point like Jale, but Rollo and Clegg should hopefully fill that void.

In terms of the crowd, despite being well under the 10k target, it was awesome to break that regular season record and definitely felt like there were a lot of new fans around. Heard a lot of people explaining the nix to their friends and whānau and it felt like there were a lot more kids and women than usual. The one thing I was disappointed about was the number of people in the Fever Zone, but those of us who were there were in great voice.

Sucks to lose but there’s just an aura around this team and I feel that we’ll definitely get some moments to celebrate this season.
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BananasHattyCWkwlapLG+2
over 3 years ago
Given how well City did last season, I did expect us to be underdogs, still disappointing conceding all those goals after a great fight in the 1st half, but positive signs. Think we'll have better luck next week against WU, crowd will probably be smaller but still hope it's a decent turnout.
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BananasLG
over 3 years ago · edited over 3 years ago · History
I don't know any of the players. First half was good, won a lot of ball. The 11 was great in midfield, aided by the 13. The no.4  defender looked strong. We were pretty lightweight upfront though. 

Second half the Melbourne 19 killed us, helped by some woeful passing and defence. We stopped winning the ball and started giving it away. 

I enjoyed it, anyway

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over 3 years ago
Wusty Wab
Given how well City did last season, I did expect us to be underdogs, still disappointing conceding all those goals after a great fight in the 1st half, but positive signs. Think we'll have better luck next week against WU, crowd will probably be smaller but still hope it's a decent turnout.
TAB was paying $6 for a draw and heaps more for a Nix win.  So we were pretty heavy underdog's.

Was feeling good at half time with my cheeky 5er on both.
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over 3 years ago
Throughly enjoyed that despite the loss. Our girls played well in the first half and could have quite easily been up. Swamped a bit in the second half but mostly stuck to the task. I will be back. As for those moaning about the crowd you can fudge off best stand alone crowd in the A League Womans some of you obviously havnt bothered to find out what attendances are like in Aussie.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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over 3 years ago
billyspleen75
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Barry and Taylor showing to be a great combination again
Edwards made some good saves
Foster has potential
Hassett and Satchel as expected are already some of our better players

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Knott's passing was atrocious
Whinham looked like she didn't want to be there
McMeeken looked like she shouldn't be there

Hopefully we can put this one down to playing a very good team / big game nerves.


some of these comments are unnecessary, bordering on cruel. Give these girls a break for Christ’s sake. All three looked good in patches but yes they were not 100% and I’m sure they’d acknowledge it.

No need to stick the boot in - it’s the first game!

Knott was very solid last year; McMeekan had an excellent first season, and Whinham showed huge potential.

Pull your head in.


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over 3 years ago
Alf Tupper
billyspleen75
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Barry and Taylor showing to be a great combination again
Edwards made some good saves
Foster has potential
Hassett and Satchel as expected are already some of our better players

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Knott's passing was atrocious
Whinham looked like she didn't want to be there
McMeeken looked like she shouldn't be there

Hopefully we can put this one down to playing a very good team / big game nerves.


some of these comments are unnecessary, bordering on cruel. Give these girls a break for Christ’s sake. All three looked good in patches but yes they were not 100% and I’m sure they’d acknowledge it.

No need to stick the boot in - it’s the first game!

Knott was very solid last year; McMeekan had an excellent first season, and Whinham showed huge potential.

Pull your head in.



It's pretty fair criticism though, I'm not sure why you're taking offense? The men's team cops far harsher criticism than that and I'm sure no one bats an eyelid. Some players were bad, its not mean to point them out, they're professional athletes. 

Don't treat them like children that you can't critique, it's weird.
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over 3 years ago
nufc_nz
Again it’s just a poor losing performance from a Phoenix team. People won’t turn up every home game to watch this sh!t.

a rather harsh judgement in my humble opinion. You don’t mince your words do you.
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over 3 years ago
Monto
Alf Tupper
billyspleen75
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Barry and Taylor showing to be a great combination again
Edwards made some good saves
Foster has potential
Hassett and Satchel as expected are already some of our better players

-
Knott's passing was atrocious
Whinham looked like she didn't want to be there
McMeeken looked like she shouldn't be there

Hopefully we can put this one down to playing a very good team / big game nerves.


some of these comments are unnecessary, bordering on cruel. Give these girls a break for Christ’s sake. All three looked good in patches but yes they were not 100% and I’m sure they’d acknowledge it.

No need to stick the boot in - it’s the first game!

Knott was very solid last year; McMeekan had an excellent first season, and Whinham showed huge potential.

Pull your head in.



It's pretty fair criticism though, I'm not sure why you're taking offense? The men's team cops far harsher criticism than that and I'm sure no one bats an eyelid. Some players were bad, its not mean to point them out, they're professional athletes. 

Don't treat them like children that you can't critique, it's weird.
not against criticism, it’s how it’s made.
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Alf Tupper
billyspleen75
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Barry and Taylor showing to be a great combination again
Edwards made some good saves
Foster has potential
Hassett and Satchel as expected are already some of our better players

-
Knott's passing was atrocious
Whinham looked like she didn't want to be there
McMeeken looked like she shouldn't be there

Hopefully we can put this one down to playing a very good team / big game nerves.


some of these comments are unnecessary, bordering on cruel. Give these girls a break for Christ’s sake. All three looked good in patches but yes they were not 100% and I’m sure they’d acknowledge it.

No need to stick the boot in - it’s the first game!

Knott was very solid last year; McMeekan had an excellent first season, and Whinham showed huge potential.

Pull your head in.


McMeeken looked fine to me first half, i was impressed actually. 
Something went wrong over the far side second half, i was too far away to point finger. 
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